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    The Official MSI GT73VR Owners and Discussions Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 16, 2016.

  1. Djadit

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    I am not getting any updates anymore because I get this automatic update from samsung magician about a week ago
     
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    this is the latest Version.
    i have this fw since i bought my both ladies.
     
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    Hey guys, is there any way to manually adjust fan speed, besides that "full throttle" button? It's too loud when full speed and I feel that in auto mode it doesn't give enough speed to keep the temp low during gaming. I tried MSI Afterburner and that option is disabled there. Any other way?

    edit: just went back 2 pages and saw MSI dragon center screenshot with fan speed control option. where can I get it? I didn't find it in the support page downloads.
     
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    What laptop do you have?

    Just open the dragon center > system tuner > choose either auto, basic adjustment, cooler boost or advanced.

    In advanced you can adjust the profile on what temp ranges to run what speed of the fan. I'd be surprised if you needed anything over either an auto config or a preferred profile in advanced unless you where doing benchmarking where you want things to be as cool as possible.
     
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    A bit late, but still... Here's the XoticPC copper cooling thingys. One of them fell off and was rattling around inside. Luckly it stuck without getting into the fans. I seriously doubt they do any good in terms of heat managment.

    IMG_2089 [800x600].JPG IMG_2090 [800x600].JPG IMG_2091 [800x600].JPG
     
  6. imprezd

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    It's MSI GT73VR Titan Pro-003 with gtx 1080. The question is - where do I download the dragon center? I didn't find the right version for my laptop.
     
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    Get them here:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gt73vr-7rf-titan-pro-drivers.800622/

    This page has been compiled and is maintained by @Phoenix. You'll find everything you need here.

    Kudos to @Phoenix, hes done a great job with this. It made upgrading and reinstalling on my system so much easier.
     
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    those are just a gimmick, think of it, if the heat goes on to those copper cooling heatsinks, fine.....but then there is nothing cooling those copper cooling heatsinks so the heat doesn't dissipate anywhere

    correct me if I'm wrong @Mr. Fox
     
  9. Fire_Child22

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    Did it not come with your laptop?

    And out of curiosity. Did you purchase it from newegg? That's the only reference i can see to 003.

    So yes indeed @ Coruscator was correct with that link.

    Alternately, you can always get it from the MSI website.
     
  10. imprezd

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    I asked for clean Win10 install, so there was nothing preinstalled and I didn't check the CD that came with it as I was in a rush.

    I purchased it from XoticPC.

    Just installed dragon center and customized the fan speed according to the temp rise. What a relief. Thanks.
     
  11. imprezd

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    Well, you can see ppl putting these things on memory chips and they say it helps somehow.
     
  12. bodosko

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    Hey guys, is there a thread or post about GT73VR BIOS options guide/explanation? I don't know many of those options and have some doubts...

    I didn't find using the search here, too many posts...
     
  13. aIJay

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    Ok so I've repasted my CPU twice with Noctua NT-H1 and after repasting I am initially getting great temps. But it seems to deteriorate really quickly and i'm getting +10c temps over the initial repaste temps after a few days.

    Am I doing something wrong here?
     
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    What's the difference between GT73VR and the GT73EVR?
     
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    Would you share your Settings for the Memory?
    I will order some g.skill and maybe i can test it this week.
     
  16. Mobius 1

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    EVR is an "economy" model designed for suicide.

    7700HQ performance suicide
    GTX1060 performance suicide

    cheaper, but I'd still prefer to be alive ;)




    @ryzeki
     
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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    have you check that all screws are tight and you don't misplace the thermal pads


    nt-h1 is not that good of thermal compound
     
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    All screws are tightened down as far as they will go.
     
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    You could use a moded cooler like U3 and force a lot more air into the chassis to dissipate the heat. But 2 or 3 of those small copper heatsink doesn't do much here. Vasted money!!
    upload_2017-5-8_8-9-8.png

    Yoy use a wrong thermal paste for laptop hardware. Change to a better paste!!
     
  20. Mobius 1

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    use better paste

    gelid gc extreme
     
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    I am not saying there's not enough cooling. As I now manually adjusted fan speed through the dragon center, it doesnt get more than 71 degrees celcium on GPU under heavy gaming.
     
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    And I talking about those small copper heatsink.. They do not do much in there for better cooling. Still, vasted money if you have paid extra for this so called feature!! :cool:
    upload_2017-5-8_9-29-9.png
     
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    There were a number of people that wanted the robust cooling that the GT73VR has over the GT72VR with a GTX 1060 - previously a GTX 1070 was the lowest power GPU in the GT73VR.

    It looks like there are 2 models of the GT73EVR, a 1060 and a 1070, with an HM175 motherboard chipset, there is only provision for 1x M.2 SSD and 1x 2.5" SATA drive.

    So that's bad, MSI is bringing the GT72VR sickness - stripped features - to the GT73VR. I was hoping MSI would work it the other way around and bring back the CM238 motherboard chipset, MUX, 3+ M.2 slots, etc from last generations GT72... sigh.

    IDK if the GT73EVR has the MUX...
    • Latest 7th Gen. Intel® Core™ i7 processor
    • Windows 10 Home / Windows 10 Pro
    • Latest GeForce® GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 with desktop level performance
    • 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080), 120 Hz Refresh Rate and 5ms response time panel (Optional)
    • 17.3" built-in 4K LCD with 3840 X 2160 resolution and 100% Adobe RGB (optional)
    • Exclusive Cooler Boost Titan Technology
    • The X Boost function from MSI technology supports faster storage access speed.
    • Dragon Center provides six functions to get a total control of your personal computer
    • WTFast free premium license for 2-month
    • NVMe M.2 SSD by PCIe Gen3 X4 up to 2200MB/s speed(optional)
    • Thunderbolt™ 3 supporting 40Gbps ultra speed data transfer rate, 4K@60Hz monitor output, and portable charging power up to 5V/3A with USB Type-C universal plug
    • Easy Overclocking with MSI SHIFT Technology by Dragon Center (optional)
    • Audio Boost 2 enhancing the gaming headset sound detail and sound stage
    • Nahimic 2 Sound Technology delivering 360⁰ immersive audio experience
    • Sound by Dynaudio system
    • True Color 2.0 Technology for increased color contrast and greater image detail
    • RGB Gaming Keyboard by Steelseries with full color backlighting
    • SteelSeries Engine 3 with GameSense to personalize your play style
    • Exclusive Silver Lining Printed keys
    • Killer DoubleShot Pro (Killer Gb LAN + Killer 802.11 a/c WiFi) with Smart Teaming
    • Upgraded Killer Gigabit LAN Controller with Advanced Stream Detect 2.0 and Killer Shield
    • Xsplit Gamecaster free premium license for 1 year
    • Matrix Display supporting surround mode and 4K output up to 3 external monitors
    • Brushed-metal lid and aesthetics line design imprinted with MSI iconic Dragon Tatoo, unleashing the true dragon gaming soul
    • CPU
      Up to 7th Gen. Intel® Core™ i7 processor
    • OS
      Windows 10 Home
      Windows 10 Pro
    • Display
      17.3" FHD (1920x1080)
      17.3" FHD (1920x1080), IPS-Level
      17.3" FHD (1920x1080), 120Hz, 5ms, Wide-View
    • Chipset
      Intel® HM175
    • Graphics
      GeForce® GTX 1070 with 8GB GDDR5
    • Memory Type
      DDR4-2400
    • Number of DIMM Slot
      4 Slots
    • Max Capacity
      Max 64GB
    • SSD
      1x M.2 SSD Combo (NVMe PCIe Gen3 x4 / SATA )
    • HDD
      1x 2.5" SATA HDD
    • Webcam
      FHD type (30fps@1080p)
    • Keyboard
      Backlight Keyboard (Full-Color)
    • LAN
      Killer Gb LAN
    • Wireless LAN & Bluetooth
      Killer ac Wi-Fi + Bluetooth v4.2
    • Speaker
      2x 3W
    • Woofer
      1x 5W
    • Audio Jack
      1x Mic-in
      1x Headphone-out (SPDIF)
      1x Line-in
      1x Line-out
    • Type-C (USB3.1 Gen2 / DP / Thunderbolt™3)
      1x
    • Type-A USB3.0
      5x
    • RJ45
      1x
    • Card Reader
      1x SD (XC/HC)
    • HDMI
      1x (4K @ 60Hz)
    • Mini-DisplayPort
      1x
    • Battery (Cell)
      8-Cell
    • Battery (Type)
      Li-Ion
    • Battery (Whr)
      75
    • AC Adapter
      230W adapter
    • Dimension (WxDxH) mm
      428 x 287 x 24~49 mm
    • Weight (w/ Battery)
      4.14 kg

    GT73EVR 7RE Titan
    (GeForce® GTX 1070)


    GT73EVR 7RD Titan
    (GeForce® GTX 1060)

    For now I'd stay away from the EVR, why not just get the GT72VR with "stripped" features and expansion and save some $$$$?

    It'll take a more indepth comparison to see if the GT73EVR with "stripped" features and expansion is a better GT72VR than a GT72VR :(
     
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    I totally agree on wasted money.
     
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    Does anybody here know if the Intel Chipset and Intel HD Graphics 630 Drivers in the 7RF are also compatible with the 6RF? Thanks!
     
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    Exactly. +rep
    YES!!
     
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    @pat@XOTICPC those small heatsink cost 60$


    april fools joke taken too far lol?
     
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    @Mobius1

    G.Skill order is out. ETA wednesday :bigwink:
    I wrote in the german msi Forum that i don't want remove, no that i never want to remove the Memorys under the Keyboard, but now you make me curious. :biggrin:
     
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    you got svet bios?

    when you request bios from svet just make sure to request that you want the modded bios to work with 3k MHz ram


    I believe svet already does that from the start but just to be extra safe
     
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    sure
     
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    Hello friends! this is my first time posting here, i've been the proud owner of the GT73VR 6RE and like a lot of people that post here i have a problem with this beast, i've been playing a lot of games on it with some crashes here and there, nothing worrying, but lately i've been playing a lot of CS:GO and i keep on getting some wierd crashes that it seems i can never fix...well i'll let you watch , i'll be waiting for ur expert comments, thank you in advance

     
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    The only time I ever get those is when i have overclocked too much. Do you have any OC in?
     
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    Also, have you undervolted your CPU? I've been experimenting with XTU lately, and get a hard lock reset when I've pushed the offset too far.
     
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    Never had a single crash since the day I bought it. Also playing games a lot. But I ordered it with clean Win10 install.
     
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    That's what is behaves like to me as well. I was going to ask if the CPU and/or GPU are overclocked. If not, one or both might be overheating. Just looking at the surface it is sitting while gaming causes some concerns. It can't breathe correctly sitting flat on its rubber feet on top of a table cloth.

    @manblue - if that is where you normally use it, put it on a hard surface or, even better, elevate it or put it on a cooling pad so it can breathe better. That might help. What are your CPU and GPU temperatures?
     
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    When I set the keyboard light to red green blue. At the bottom of the letter 'P' there are 2 lights. But on the left side of the light is visible in white. Is gt73vr so? In section 'P' when turning red , green blue ,letter 'p' looks a bit white

    Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
     
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    Are you on creators update? i noticed this behaviour occur to me on games such as csgo and heroes of the storm among other games. There most likely isnt a fix until msi releases something. Further, do you have the 6820hk version? if so then i can completely relate to you
     
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    my CPU is on X40 when i'm playing and i used DC and XTU, same thing
    it's in default settings.
    i have the same problem while sitting on a glass surface but i'll try to have it elevated a bit more, for the temps GPU does not go over 77 and the CPU when playing CSGO can get to around 80
    yes it was like this after the creator's update, i had it freezing with sound loop for 20 sec in the anniversary update but now it's crashes the whole laptop
     
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    Ah, in that case im afraid we are in the exact same boat. Sadly there is no further information available and we SOL. I however managed to avoid this crashing by setting the dgc and all settings to comfort. It appears that in my case this problem is overclock related as in the games such as heroes of the storm and CSGO the crash gets triggered if i have the laptop set in either turbo or sport.

    I imagine this is as god a shot as any for you to try and have you get through in the meantime until microsoft or MSI comes out with an official response to this issue. We are not alone thankfully, although this appears to be a "uncommon" issue
     
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    @manblue

    Sounds like Creators update issues again, whata PITA.

    I prop up the back of mine, when I'm on the road I"m use an Altoids can and om my desk at home a hockey puck, it provides a better angle for typing and helps keep the area clear for airflow. Also be sure your wires aren't clogging up the area. propup.jpg

    I
     
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    i'll try to do that after work, and yeah its uncommon but hopefully we'll got some answers soon
    i'll try to do that and see if the temps are changing, i've had it crash with coolerboost activated since startup so... but we'll see

    UPDATE : i contacted MSI on the issue and they replied with a bunch of troubleshooting steps that i need to do to be sure. Here is the pdf https://account-cn.msi.com/ocss/uploads/replies/reply1_235328_20170509112921.pdf
     
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    Good luck.
     
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    I have a doubt about putting the notebook on a cooling pad. The slope may cause problem in the spinning of the fans? I say this because my previous notebook was an Asus ROG and I've kept it on a pad for 3 years and after a while the cpu fan started to crackle a bit. Maybe the problem was not related but still...my doubt remains. And now that I have my new GT73VR I'm not using the pad anymore. Furthermore, I think there is no real improvement in the temperature because it already has a very good cooling system and a lot of room below to take fresh air.
    What's you experience?
     
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    I have propped up the back of my GT70 and GT73, I used the GT70 for 4 years and my son continues to use it with no issues. I don't think the slope would put and undue stress on the fan bearings and even if it did they are easily replaced. Having fresh air to the cooling are is important, I had a slight issue once in a hotel where the mouse cable had blocked a certain area and I noted the increased fan noise. I use 90 degree adapters on the cables for both my mouse and Orbweaver which allows me to put the cables behind the laptop out of the way.
     
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    I've been having a very similar problem lately. It will freeze up with that audio buzzing and I get a kind of cross hatch pattern on the whole screen, then it will reboot. I was wondering if my video card was going bad. I can play for hours with no problem and then out of the blue I get that. It only does it in games. Heat is not a problem. CPU/GPU stays in the 60's at 4Ghz. I hoping it's just a creators update issue.
     
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    I had to lower my undervolt from -100mV to -50mV to solve that
     
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    I would try that if I was undervolting. :D I've thought about taking it apart and making sure it's not a problem caused by my repasting, but I hate to go through the trouble if it is the creator update causing it and the temps look great.
     
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    well I'm on the Creators update, no issues after repasting with Liquid Ultra and a -50 undervolt for my 4.2 x4 GHz overclock
     
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    Anyone know what the correct thickness of thermal pad is used on the CPU heatsink for the VRM's and MOSFETS?

    I replaced mine with 1mm Arctic Thermal pads and i noticed that Core 0 and Core 2 ended up running 15c hotter than Core 1 and Core 3 under load which led me to believe that the heatsink was not making full contact on that side of the CPU.

    I tried removing the pads and now there is only a 5c delta between Core 0/2 and 1/3. Are there any long term adverse affects from having no thermal pads on the VRM's and MOSFETS?
     
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    Both CPU and GPU use 1.0mm. I used Thermal Grizzly Minus Pad 8 on mine. Are you sure the heatsink is screwed down correctly?
     
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