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No you cannot get it from MSI because you have 7RE and MSI will simply decline your request by saying "we do not sell parts for upgrades" but any member who have xRF modal can get it from MSI for you....you just have to pay for it or best bet is ebay, both GPU and vRAM HS will cost you between $100 to $125 in total.

Side Note: before going for upgrade to 1080 make sure you cross check xRE MB chipset with xRF MB chipset.

 

Hi Phoenix, I missed your post lol sure can we do it now? ASAP ) I have a couple of questions since its my first time using win 10 and an SSD (which i think is a big factor in my noviceness right now Thanks!

 

Thank you Shehary. What do you mean by "Cross check"? Chipset is the same afaik, 7RE and 7RF use the exact same BIOS. I just did a FC/B on both the BIOS files and the EC firmwares; they're both identical on 7RE and 7RF. (17A1EMS1.108 and E17a1ims.313)

 

I am out now, please tag me in 8 hours I will be available

 

So I tried it with gsync on, this time the game froze as in it frozed, didnt restart anymore. Was in turbo mode on Dragon Center(maxed CPU, GPU, auto fans)

 

Are you on stock bios and vbios? Have you tried a clean install of the latest nvidia drivers? Im just spit balling from what I've read here in the forums.

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Yep did not touch them when they came from HID. When you say clean install meaning updating the nvidia drivers? not also, spitballing? You mean summarizing? That would be excellent if that's the case! That would be a great help for me.

 

I got mine from an aus reseller. Not from the US. So I dont know your circumstances.

In my case, everything was working out of the box and when I did a clean install and updated the bios, vbios and nvidia drivers, it still worked without any crashes, bsod, or freezes. But I was only able to test it out for a couple of weeks.

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Hi guys,

I have some trouble in game and i would like to set my laptop the best that i can. I have uninstall DGC but now with afterburner and Throttlestop i don't know what to do :/

http://imgur.com/a/UfMXZ

Could you tell me what should i do clearly please ?

Your help will be really apreciate.

Thx,

 

Why for only a couple of weeks? What happened? I'm currently updating everything with the help of Phoenix. Btw: is vbios different from BIOS? My BIOS is on the latest version now. Dunno about my vbios.

 

If your laptop has a 1070 GTX, please try the "8A" Chinese Vbios. You will also need to put the Nvidia drivers on "max performance" and control power plan on "high performance" to stop the boost 3" spikes of over 2000 mhz.

 

Do you have a download link?

 

Been posted in various threads. Here and on MSI's forumsI don't have it right now.

 

Work constraints and going out of town. It seems the 1070 card for some users are having issues like yours. As I've said, clean install the latest nvidia drivers first. And if that doenst work try updating the bios. Other than those advise, other people here on the thread know more about your problem. Just trying to help from what I've read.

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I was at the university and college and had no access to my bookmarks or the vbios.

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=281873.0

 

I overclocked the 1080 gpu to 2062mhz using the dragon center. Is this normal with other gt73vr owners?
I use aidaxtreme gpu stress test?
Is this the average result on g73vr with gtx 1080?



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Its normal to hit 2GHz every now and then, I wouldn't rely too heavily on synthetic benchmarks but I would test out actual games.

 

thanks for the information .

When I tested the benchmark game rise of tomb raider. I get higher fps results when enabling direcxt 12. Is it like that?



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It seems to install nahimic audio realtek must have nahimic.dll in the installation package

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Yep, after clean installing, updating drivers and such my game still crashes but the difference is that before when it crashes/freezes the laptop restarts but this time only the game crashes and i can still go alt+tab and switch to other games, aaaaaaaand there another freeze and restart. so this solution was useless so it seems.

I'm backreading this thread and the MSI thread at the same time, I saw this guy @msa at early page 400s i think and he had a problem same as mine, at the same time a also saw him at the msi forums. yep youre right , talking about VBIOS problems in the 6RE

So @msa, had 5 GT73VR 6REs with the same problem as mine. crashing most of the time. according to him, 6REs that start with serial numbers: had the problem
-K1608N
-K1609N
Unfortunately mine started with K1608N,so I guess you could make it 6 GT73VR-6REs

and finally i connected what @Falkentyne was saying about an 8A chinese vbios. actually it was this 86.04.5B.00.8A but it would limit your gpu to 1650mhz, when apparently you paid for a gpu with a 1900mhz.


This is really frustrating, paying for an expensive laptop and this is what happens so you can also add your time reading and fixing the problem.

Got this laptop from HIDevolution, emailed Zoltan@HIDevolution for support i think 6 hrs ago. still waiting for their reply on what to do with this.

What im gonna do right now is flash @msa 's VBIOS (86.04.2B.00.14) that worked on his second notebook from MSI but didnt work on his laptop which made his laptop defective.

Specs:
TITAN GT73VR-6RE, 1070, 120hz, 256ssd, 1TB, WIN 10
BIOS: E17A1IMS.10A
VBIOS: 86.04.56.00.3A

I hope this is just a vbios problem. Thoughts or Opinions would be much appreciated.

 

Careful there buddy, don't go flashing some Chinese VBIOS that will void your warranty and you may brick your GPU.

I would go to the MSI site, enter your laptop's model number, then see if there are any official VBIOS updates

Also, when running a game, have HWiNFO downloaded and running on the side to see what the max temps are.

Unfortunately I cannot help you remotely due to your slow internet connection.

 

@Phoenix thanks for reminding me, voiding warranty by flashing crossed my mind so i had second thoughts.
BIOS and VBIOS installed now are the latest ones, temps are good per DC they don't go higher than 60 degrees Celsius. 40 degrees Celsius now, and at standby.

 

ok that's good temps wise. Can you try another game and see if the crashes are particular to one game or all?

 

Well, I tried playing Tomb Raider on Ultra settings earlier I think for 2hrs, no crashes.

 

so it might be game related only as your temps are fine.

 

I think Dota 2 is a less demanding game compared to other more demanding games such as BF1, DeusEx etc. if it crashes with Dota2 what more in more demanding games such as those right? Correct me if im wrong. Moreover, This is a new laptop, is crashing normal for a new laptop? even my old toshiba satellite could run dota 2 without crashing. Anyway, I'll be Testing it further with other games.

 

Your crashes are not hardware related as you said it doesn't do that in other games. Might be that game. Try other games and see

And being a new laptop has nothing to do with your crashes, if a game is buggy or has some compatibility issues with certain hardware, it will crash. period.

 

I have a problem, in Dragon Center I see -2.7 in CPU clock. When I start Throttlestop and let the App minimize, CPU Clock work perfectly in DC. If I kill Throttlestop, CPU Clock turn to -2.7 again.

Is there a solution to fix this ?

 

here is mine, I set the VR Current limit to a value of 400 in the BIOS (which translates to 100A in XTU). I never run ThrottleStop. Then I set all multipliers in Dragon Center to 42X although this was only possible after repasting with Liquid Ultra. When I had IC Diamond, I had to set an undervolt of -100mV to make the temps stay below 90C but now no need with Liquid Ultra

 

Tried to play Dota2 in medium settings, no crashes but when i set to max boom, bye bye. going to try other games now

 

A strange thing happened to me today. I was playing TW Warhammer in a fairly packed battle (but not extremely packed), and the game crashed, and I know this could happen sometimes. But the problem is that just before crashing everything freezed and just after the notebook rebooted itself! In the event viewer of windows it says:
Kernel-power
ID 41
BugcheckCode 278
Anyone knows the reason of this behavior?

 

Could it be adding hdd to mxm slot gt73vr with single gpu?

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http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/20097319?
i think a Little more tunning and some more Points are possible

 

Well I wouldn't go as far as call it "chinese" bios, its still an official MSI bios, its just the guy who sent in his unit for "repair" instead of getting a replacement they just put a bios that clocked it down. He uploaded it on a "chinese" website for everyone else having the problem to try it out.

So technically MSI didn't really fix the physical/hardware problem but rather made it usable/stable by lowering the clocks/disabling boost 3.0 but made it just go up to boost speeds.

1443MHz <-- default stock clocks 1070
1645MHz <-- default "boost" speeds
1645-1900MHz+ <-- GPU Boost 3.0

 

GPU Boost 3.0 still works on the 8A Bios apparently, and I'm guessing that's a bug.
To disable it, you MUST use:
1) high performance power mode in control panel.
2) Nvidia 3D settings set to prefer maximum performance.

I found with some combination of "Optimal" and "balanced" power plan, it was still boosting to 1900+ mhz (very obvious when you close the Valley benchmark and get that screen with 3000+ FPS).

 

Odd, I just install the drivers and the first thing I do is disable g-sync and disable all telemetry and thats that.

Is that on games as well or only benchmarks because mine stops at 1645MHz while playing games on Balanced power plan.

 

Both. It's spahgetti code. And I don't remember 100% what I did in what order to stop it. I can use any Bios without issue. I was just wondering why I was getting the level 3 boost on the stock Bios, then when I switched to the 8A (yes I powered off, I know how to flash Bioses), I was still getting that level 3 boost.

When I set high perf power profile+ max perf in nvidia 3d settings, the boost became hard capped at the boost speed.
I really can't be bothered messing around with this. I gain nothing from it except wasting time.

 

Hmmm I'm 100 pages behind... will have to catch up this weekend.

Is anyone still using the creator's update? I didn't realize I only had 10 days to revert back so now I'm stuck with it...lesson learned.

Unfortunately installation programs such as MSI dragon center and MSI SCM won't execute. I was aware since the creator update that the MSI DC program doesn't work (thankfully silent option does) and when I tried to reinstall it the program wouldn't run but I just downloaded the latest MSI SCM update and it won't launch either and I have tried all the compatibility options. Is anyone else have this problem and/or has found a fix? (other than not having the stupid creator update)

 

Did you try to uninstall any previous version first? On my laptop i also had that issue when i tried to install a newer version over the old, uninstalling it first and then installing the newer fixed it.

 

I did uninstall DC, did that the first day when the creators update was installed and msi DC stopped working. My problem is I download DC and SCM and go to launch setup.exe but setup.exe never runs. I've only had this problem with MSI DC and MSI SCM so far.

 

Sorry, i meant to uninstall SCM not the DC (never had issues updating it on older versions). Perhaps the AV is blocking the setup from running? It's pretty strange as i never heard of such issue nor had it.

 

I'm not going to risk uninstalling the SCM if the setup.exe won't run for any version of SCM or DC... I can live without DC, I don't want to be left without SCM. If I try running it several times a window will pop up asking if the program worked properly and if not I can try to trouble shoot it...etc but the suggested fixes like different compatibility modes don't do anything as I tried them all already with no success.

This all started with the creators update which I can no longer roll back as it has been too long.

 

Why don't you just clean install the February 2017 version of windows? You can download the ISO from anywhere. Then just install it and choose clean installation. Takes less than 15 minutes, instead of agonizing for hours and hours and days on forums about SCM not working.

Then use shutup 10 to disable windows updates so you won't get any nags.

 

For my problem in Dragon Center I've my CPU clock showing -2.7 until throttlestop was uninstall.

I try this (read on msi forum):

Inside export folder right-click, install setup.exe. This will install the XTU framework. Next, right-click, install as admin xtu-setup-exe. Finally back out of export and right-click, install admin the file called "setup" and that will install dragon gaming center.to fixit

But no way ;(

 

Last resort is to restore from Recovery or as the guy below your post suggested do a clean install.

 

MSI section frontpage: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...vr-gt62vr-gt72vr-reboot-crash-problem.804978/

Problem fixed with vbios, but limits gpu boost, is the only fix at the moment.

Also, this is a lottery, some laptops working fine, others not so much.

Technically MSI didn't really fix the physical/hardware problem but rather made it usable/stable by lowering the clocks/disabling boost 3.0,

Yes that way they dont need to waste money in replacing the laptop or the gpu,

Thats what did with my laptop.

Strange chinese vbios.

Defective units:

-K1608N
-K1609N
-K1610N
-K1611N - mine has this problem

This user @msa told me his new GT73VR Titan with K1703N (2017 03 build) has no problems.

- But i dont know if its using the default vbios or msi debug .82

@specialist7 @Falkentyne

Whats your laptop serial number?

- All users with 1070GTX GT73VR Titan please tell your serial number and vbios version

Thank you !

 

K1702N. This is irrelevent. 7=7RE/F. 6=6RE/F.
02/2017.

I had GT72VR Dominator Pro also, with no problems, that I RMA'd because I wanted the Titan instead.
And that was K1703N. Because it's 7th gen CPU (7700HQ).

 

Thank you,

Now we are getting somewhere !

I dont know if you already told me, but do you remember what your GT72VR original vbios was?

Mine is the same as yours, GT72VR 7RE Dominator Pro , 7th gen CPU (7700HQ) : Serial number K1611N , and crashing problems

Not every 7th Gen CPU laptop is 2017 build.

Conclusion: 2017 1070 builds no problems, 2016 1070 builds defective !