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    The Official MSI GT73VR Owners and Discussions Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 16, 2016.

  1. Fridgeboy

    Fridgeboy Notebook Consultant

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    I have a 2016 GT73VR 1070GTX and I had to install the Vbios that shut off the 3.0 boost. I did extensive testing for a month or 2 before someone here made me aware that some of the 1070s were having issues with the overboost and as soon as I installed the Vbios that limited it to the stock boost it was fixed. I now just use my own OC if I need it. Everytime it was at a certain load above 1800MHz it would flash a black screen and then return after a second or 2. If I was playing through HDMI the sound would be gone and not return through the HDMI until I restarted the computer. I haven't had a problem since the Vbios that shutoff GPU boost 3.0
     
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    Thank you for your feedback,

    All 2017 build laptops are working fine, GPU boost 3.0 and Turbo mode etc.

    Explain that to me.

    Also,

    Did you try to overclock above 1800mhz with vbios that turns off boost?
     
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    Wow! Really? you want people giving you their laptop's serial number? :rolleyes: Do you want their bank account details as well? :rolleyes:

    We've had enough with your posts flooding this thread asking for feedback about some VBIOS where you could've simply created your own feedback thread! now you want people's serial numbers? :rolleyes: This is taking it too far! [​IMG]

    @Papusan @hmscott @Kevin@GenTechPC
     
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    Maybe he should Google why Dell said you shouldn't show your laptops service Tag? :rolleyes:
     
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    Its GT73VR 7RE-494CA TITAN
    Serial #: *********************

    Hover with mouse to get #s
     
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  8. Hugodra

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    It is the third time you quote me, did i ask you anything? No.

    Im discussing the issue with folks, that want to discuss this problem.

    You are misleading people with the same issue as me, you lie to them:

    Stop quote me, thank you. :hi:

    Thank you, but i cant see the serial number mate.

    Share only the first digits if you dont want to share everything.

    For example "K1609N"
     
  9. kicker4106

    kicker4106 Notebook Geek

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    Btw. Have you tried disabling xbox game dvr? Its worth a try.

    [​IMG]

    Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
     
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  10. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Do not provide anyone with your full serial number, under public or private conversations. Providing the build number part of that though is fine. I have edited the post accordingly above.
     
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    I bought some thermal paste and thermal pads from Amazon last week. I bought Grizzly Kryonaut and 3 thermal pads Grizzly minus 8 120x20x1.0mm.

    [​IMG]

    Cutting thermal pads

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Ready for repaste

    [​IMG]

    Thermal pads in place

    [​IMG]

    I repaste both CPU/GPU with the X method

    CPU @ 4.0GHz - Auto Fans. I'm using the last EC Version. .108

    RESULTS

    Before
    Core #0 85C
    Core #1 72C
    Core #2 79C
    Core #3 74C


    [​IMG]

    After
    Core #0 68C
    Core #1 62C
    Core #2 64C
    Core #3 62C


    [​IMG]


    I'm happy with my CPU results but my GPU temps didn't improve much. Maybe 2-3C less in average. Should I repaste my GPU again?
    GPU OC +100/+200 Auto Fans

    3DMark Firestrike
    Before Max GPU temp 82C
    After Max GPU Temp 78C

    Battlefield 1
    Before Max GPU temp 80C
    After Max GPU Temp 78C

    The Witcher 3
    Before Max GPU temp 84C
    After Max GPU temp 80C
     
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    That's not how thermal pads work. For reference, on my P870DM3, there are pads ranging from 0.5mm to 4.0mm on the GPU. Unless you know for a fact that all the pads are 1.0mm (highly unlikely) or that the pads are VERY pliable and all supposed to be 1.0mm or less, you probably have extremely bad contact on a lot of components, possibly including the core.
     
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    Pads on GPU and CPU of this laptop are 1mm. @Shehary measured them many posts ago.
     
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    Every single one? Results may also vary depending on the GPU model since they probably have different heat sinks. Cheaper pads used by OEMs also tend to be very soft, so they're more tolerant to spacing variations.
     
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    Having no visible heat problems just means that the core is making contact, but you could still have a VRM not properly cooled, which would be a big problem. It wouldn't be apparently obvious especially because of the two-piece heat sink where most of the components are separated from the core. But it looks like MSI may have contoured their heat sink to match the components precisely, so if it's been proven to work before, it's probably fine.
     
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    Please use 100% fan speed when testing the GPU. You wont know how well heat is being transferred without airflow.

    That being said, my GTX 1070 with +200/+300, topped at 49C on test run 1 and 50C on test run 2, with stock paste, Auto fans (no need to repaste with cool running GPU, IMO). The CPU, 7820HK, repasted with Kyronaut on the other hand...score was 929 cb (4.2 ghz, -100mv undervolt), but for test run 1, the temps were 72/68/72/69 (or something, maybe it was 74/71/74/72), then run 2, 79, 76, 79, 76. (Auto fans). The important thing is the temps were 3C difference on all cores, which means a good repaste and mount. Before I repasted, i also had larger temp difference with stock paste. Your CPU temps were 9C difference down to 5C, which is good, but your idle temps show you are in a MUCH colder room than I am. My idle temps were around 42C, because i'm in Riverside, CA, where it's been very warm (even though I'm testing in the morning). Your idle temps are 13C cooler, so that makes a big difference, which explains the difference in temps.

    With 100% fan, temps: 71/69/71/68, then same temps the 2nd run.

    Anyway does the GTX 1080 run that much hotter than the 1070?
     
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    My room temperature is always 73-74F. My idle temps look cold because the screenshots were taken in cold boot. The first thing I did when laptop turned on was open HWMonitor and it registered those low temps. My idle temps in Turbo mode (4.0GHz) before and after repaste are 40-42C. The GTX 1080 in the GT73VR is much hotter and louder than the GTX 1070 model. I had the GT73VR with the GTX 1070 and max temp in auto fans was 66-68C.
     
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    Wow...how are your 1070 temps so high?
    Are you talking about cinebench? Are you looping cinebench or just running it once or twice?

    Because I didn't break 50C in a 78 degree room (cinebench this morning)

    Looping Valley, with auto fans, temps stop around 66-68C.
    With 100% fans, temps don't exceed 55C.
     
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    Cinebench is a CPU Test. You can't test the GPU with it. I'm talking about the max temps of the GTX 1070 in auto fans looping Heaven Unigine was 66-68C (GPU at 100% usage). I can't tell GPU temps with 100% fans because I don't have that laptop anymore. The repaste I did was for my GT73VR GTX 1080 model.
     
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    just to be a nice guy :cool:
    K1608N and i still using my 86.04.2B.00.14 vBios...
    never had any issues with my gpu.
    GPU-Z.PNG
     
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  22. powerofviva

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    Hey bro, for me is showing -2.6
    interesting part is no one knows what is the problem and how to solve that!
     
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    Read yourself... <Cinebench is a CPU Test. You can't test the GPU with it.>
    upload_2017-5-26_7-2-53.png
    Then read what the author says about their own software... "CINEBENCH is the perfect tool to compare CPU and graphics performance across various systems and platforms (Windows and OS X). And best of all: It's completely free." :rolleyes:
     
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    Didn't know I can test GPU with Cinebench. Thanks for the info :)
     
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    Yeah that's why I think he just thought it's what Cinebench only does because he ran only the CPU Benchmark where he had the results of 868cb and 871cb (this is where only the CPU runs and not the GPU, again correct me if I'm wrong). He never ran the OpenGL above the CPU which does the GPU benchmark which made him said that the Cinebench only does benchmarks for CPU. He clearly didn't know that there is the OpenGL for the GPU benchmark there.
     
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    Yes you can via running OpenGL. It'll show results through fps count. :)
     
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    LOOOOL
    Why in Gods name must yoo pay for the machine? The Bloatmakers have already paid MSI :vbbiggrin: Lenovo or Toshiba isn't bad at all after seeing this :no:
    Skjermbilde (29).png
    All good :vbthumbsup:
     
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    Guys I have a question and its appreciated to answer me,
    Is there any way to clean install windows 10 CU and keep the recovery partition?
    I need recovery partition for emergency cases.
    It would be so nice if you share any link if its possible.

    thank you
     
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    You can use MSI BurnRecovery to make a 32GB USB 3.0 bootable recovery restore flash drive, then you can "blow" away the recovery partition without worry.

    You might want to test your new MSI BurnRecovery flash drive before blowing away the original OS install and recovery partition.

    Pull the original OS drive and drive with the recovery partition and slip in a test drive to do the restore.

    If you try to test restore over the original drives and the restore fails the restore will already have re-formatted all internal drives... it's happend to many a poor soul.

    Some flash drives will act like they worked fine in the create phase, but fail in the restore phase - try another brand USB 3.0 flash drive.

    Good luck :)
     
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    I'm trying a clean install by following @Phoenix tutorial on YouTube.

    Hope this clean install fix my problem.
     
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    Thank you.

    Yes, this problem only affects some 2016 builds.

    But until now, all people with 2017 builds have no issues with 1070 GTX, not a single person.
     
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    GUYS. This is an EMERGENCY!!
    My laptop was working fine until a few minutes ago when I tried to plug the charger, but it wouldn't go all the way in. Upon close examination I noticed that the one of the pins was further down than the other 3. I guess the charger entered at a bad angle and pushed it inside. Also, I noticed that there was something in the corresponding hole in the charger - couldn't make it out properly. Check the pics uploaded(I'm sorry for the long loading time). The top right pin looks like it has been forced down and there is something in the corresponding charger hole. Any suggestions on what I should do? 20170526_224606.jpg 20170526_224736.jpg
     

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    please share the result since I have same problem
    thanks
     
  38. Patataz

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    I have a problem after installation, no wifi network detected. I'm trying to fix this first.....
     
  39. kicker4106

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    You can ask MSI for a solution or probably buy a new power brick. Not sure about the latter though if the pins are disaligned. Seems to me you tried to forcefully push the plug the wrong way hence the above result.

    Ps. Wth have you been doin to the back of your laptop? Seems like you've been using it as a chopping board. Sorry for being negative. I just treat my laptop really well and it hurts to see it like that.

    Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
     
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    Will I have to pay for the power brick? Is it covered by the warranty?

    To answer your question, only the area just around the charging port is scratched. During intense gaming sessions, the charger gets disconnected and I have to plug it back in without turning it around by feeling the backside with my weak hand. I don't know if it's the same with everyone, but my charger is extremely loose and it comes off even by shifting the laptop slightly. Now you know what cause those scratches. Rest assured, my laptop is in top notch condition and I make sure to clean it regularly.
     
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    Hard treatment. But MSI support does not know how you treat your machines. Ask for a new one on warranty. Send them the picture of the psu connector and say what the problem is (my charger is extremely loose and it comes off even by shifting the laptop slightly).
     
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    Well, wouldn't they ask me to return my adapter to receive the replacement (that is if they decide to issue one)? And when they receive it they will realize that they have been duped.
     
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    It is their burden of proof. You have had trouble with a loose connection and want help. Anyway... Not the big cost for you if you have to pay for a new one, if they say no.
     
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    Was that cable loose like that when the computer was brand new? Because my connector fits snug and stable without moving.
     
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    Yup.
     
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    You know, my DOA GT73VR SLI 1070 version also had an EXTREMELY loose power connector as well. I've sent it back for no video out and I am getting a replacement, but I vividly remember that power connector coming out very easily when I shifted even a little bit with the laptop sitting in my lap.

    I really hope that the replacement doesn't have that problem (and actually just works, tbh).
     
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    No video out? Did that happen when you switched from igpu to dgpu?
     
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    It will be difficult to put the damage under warranty. You can try. They can send you a quote of the repair charges anyway if they want to make you pay for it but the main thing is that your sending the laptop straight to MSI. The only worry is the shipping cost of the laptop which may add to the expense.

    I really can't imagine a beast like the GT73VR Titan being used for 'intense gaming' on someone's lap. I always place it on a hard surface due to its weight and size. But anyways, to each his own.

    Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
     
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    No, it happened from the very first power on - the LCD backlight came on and the HDD activity light flashed, but it had no video out on either the internal screen or by hooking up a HDMI monitor (my TV).

    Although I have heard about the whole changing BIOS options causing no video out. Clearing the CMOS didn't fix anything.

    Hopefully I won't be so unlucky with the replacement!
     
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    Well, the good news is that the replacement laptop came in and powers up just fine.

    The bad news is that it is a K1610N serial number that might be affected by the GPU Boost issue. It's currently installing the anniversary update, so I won't be able to test it out for a few hours.
     
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