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I use Avast and have the same problem (-2.7 ghz CPU Clock show in XTU & DC)

I did a clean install but problem still here. The only fix working, is when I run ThrottleStop. XTU and DC show correctly my CPU Clock.

 

yes occourse

1- Macrium Reflect doesn't backup the free space, only the used space
2- Macrium Reflect has a medium compression by default, so take for example an OS partition with 20 GB, the backup image file would only be 9GB in size. Magic

 

if I uninstall the AVG and AVG-pcTuning and restart the system , the problem will be fixed. but unfortunately it is hard to live without antivirus this days ...

 

yes and you chose the worst AV

 

AVG? Who uses that???
I use CCleaner and Webroot SecureAnywhere, very lightweight and it does the job properly without hanging your system like those lousy bloatware antiviruses.

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Last time I *tried* AVG, not even used it, the moment I installed it, all my data on my RAID 0 array went corrupt. Thank God I had it all backed up on a USB HDD! Sheesh

 

I've never tried it, but many of my friends use it and keep complaining about their systems being slow. When I tell them they must uninstall AVG, they get mad and don't listen! They have some weird paranoia of not having an AV installed.

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yeah use an AV, not an AV that acts like a virus

 

Duhh, kids will all think any AV which is famous through *sneaky* marketing is an AV.

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Hmm...My partition on my C: drive is the full 250 GB (plus the boot files in another partition). So I guess that means...I'm doomed, right? (Ok that came out VERY poorly. what I meant is, I have about 200 GB of space being used by the OS and by games and stuff. So I basically would have to uninstall all of the games and then backup? That's going to be problematic (i didn't have enough space on my D: drive for the Steam folder plus other games on top of it).

 

Doesn't the built in Windows Defender antivirus work better than many paid antivirus programs?

That's what I've been reading anyways so I'm going to try it for myself with this laptop (now that it doesn't shut off and reboot every 5 minutes under load or fail to have any video output).

 

What I do is: Partition C: to 120GB for the OS and programs only, then install the games on D:

that way, when you backup your OS, you don't backup the unnecassary game files, heck, now if you restore your backup, you probably will lose the game updates if they were ever updated. That's not the way to do it man! Format your laptop and start over again

I install the OS, configure it to my liking, then create the first backup without installing ANY drivers or games, fresh OS only

then I install all my programs and drivers then create the 2nd backup, if something goes wrong, I choose which backup I want to go back to. If there are many driver updates, I go back to the base image I created first

 

Windows Defender is the heaviest AV on the planet:

see: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ity-suite-in-windows-10.800848/#post-10446268

 

Thanks, very much, @Phoenix !

Ok guys I have a more serious problem.
Can any of you help?

basically I am getting no sound from the REAR SPEAKER channel.
i'm trying to hook up my 5.1 (Logitech Z-5500) speakers via the RCA cables to the laptop.
The front channel (green) is supposed to plug into the line out jack.
the REAR (black cable) channel is supposed to plug into the line in jack, and the LFE (Sub)/center channel (orange cable) plugs into the microphone jack.

Ok well, i do this, and I get full front, center and subwoofer sound, but NOTHING from the rear channel. Now I know the connector works because if I plug the green (front) cable only into the line in jack, I get sound from the front channel, although it's quieter than it usually is, so the port is working. But then when I plug in other cables, the port either changes into the rear channel (if the front isnt plugged in) or just doesnt play anything.

Another thing i noticed:is: when the speakers are set to "stereo" or playing through the laptops' internal speakers on stereo, the line in port shows "not plugged in". When I do plug in a cable into it, it says "ready." But as soon as I switch the speaker set to 5.1 (even quadraphonic), it changes to "not plugged in."

However, if I plug in any channel into the "not plugged in" lineout, it plays sound, although rather faintly. Example if I plug in the rear channel (black cable) by itself, it plays the "Front" channel (since that's the only one plugged in) test into the rear speakers when I click the front speakers. If I then plug the green (front) cable into the line out port, then the green (front channel) speakers play in the front left/front right speaker test properly, but nothing plays in the rear channel. Likewise if I follow up with plugging in the orange cable into the mic jack, then the center channel and sub play.

But again, no rear channel.

Anyone know what's going on here?

I searched and spent HOURS and HOURS trying to fix this problem and I simply cant do it anymore. HOURS.

the ONLY thing I could even come close to finding was some posts about "disabling front headphone/spdif detection" in "realtek audio manager" making the rear channel work again. But there is no realtek audio manager on these laptops now, and there's nothing in Nahimic about disabling headphone/front speakre detection or anything.

So...any ideas, guys?
This looks like some sort of bug or something. I would really like to get my 5.1 speakers working as I don't want to use my headphones when it's 90 degrees (even tho i can use 7.1 surround through the Sennheiser GSX-1000...).

Please. SOMEONE has to know about this problem. You guys are all so knowledgeable about tweaking laptops....NO ONE here uses or has access to 5.1 analog surround here?
SPDIF is currently out of the question as I would need an adapter to hook up optical out to my Z-5500, which I don't have.

 

Um ok I got the rear speaker channels to work but at a VERY low level ; I had to enable "speaker mix" device under "recording"....it seems to completely IGNORE the volume level settings (0 to 100% do nothing). No way at all to raise the gain level or volume. If I set front, sub and sides to 20% then its relatively balanced but with my speaker audio knob sets to a very high level (almost 80%). I guess this will have to do for now.

 

Before overclocking bro, there are some tweaks you need to do in the BIOS. Did you uninstall DGC or are you still using it? I'll start a convo with you once I'm not busy to show you the changes @Phoenix did in the BIOS for me.

 

If you wouldn't mind copying and pasting the pertinent info for me as well, I'd be very grateful. I've since uninstalled Dragon Center because its self-update hosed it.

 

next time I will use Eset Nod32, tha is much more better. Damn, I bought AVG in an offer --> that was my first and last try in black friday

 

NOD32 works for 30 days with 0 nags to upgrade to a paid license and is fully functional Download the trial man

Also make sure you use the AVG Uninstaller Tool to get rid of all its remnants

 

Is a nahimic driver problem 2.3.20. I encountered a problem while installing cyberlink media suite 15.
At the time of installing powerdvd 17
There is a frezee installation
After i uninstalled nahimic .cyberlink successfully installed properly

 

aha, thanks alot mate

 

A high of 71 is not high.

Sobrang baba na nyan.

 

Can anyone help me out with some crashes I'm getting? I keep getting this warning in event viewer "The driver \Driver\WUDFRd failed to load for the device ACPI\ENE0110\5&1df39151&0."

Only when trying to play 2 games, Skyrim or the new Ghost Recon. It's inconsistent and doesn't happen at the same time every time.

I have a GT73VR 6RE with a gtx 1070 and i7-6820hk

 

Anyone brave enough to try overclocking the Chi Mei N173HHE-G32 (CMN1747) FullHD panel in the 1080p TN versions of the GT73VR and GT72VR?
With ToastyX Custom Resolution Utility (or testing with the NVCP first), anyone want to see if 144hz refreshrate will work or blow up the laptop?

Manual timings, normal vertical total value up to 125hz, reduced vertical total (LCD Reduced option in ToastyX CRU) of VT 1098 at 144hz via custom resolution.
Since some people have pushed the QHD up to 129-131hz, maybe someone wants to try....

 

what for ? for 7-8 mhz extra ? I tried on the GT73 6RE it wont even budge over 120 hz.Screen goes blank and then resets after 10 or so seconds.

 

WOW,
Eset smart security is much much more better that AVG !!!
my problem solved

 

welcome back to the real world

 

Anyone noticed that the GPU uasge of Rime is more than all of other high graphic games like battelfield1 !!!
I thinks the game is suffering from some optimization issues?
Anyone experienced the same ?

 

When the CPU can't feed the GPU fast enough, resulting in less than 99% GPU utilization, that is a CPU bottleneck.

Increase the resolution to help alleviate that (Nvidia DSR). Overclock the CPU if you can should you not want to use DSR. Those are the things that will help the most.

Although some game's FPS just can't be helped because they really are buggy pieces of crap.

 

Thank you for the reply,
Honestly i couldnt get your point 100%
During the game, GPU usage is about 99% and CPU usage is about 50%.
So the game seems to be gpu eater compare to cpu.
How can overclocking the cpu help in this caese, i donno.
Also the game resolution is already 1920×1080 . Do you mean increase that ? Or you are talking about another feature og nvidia ?
Its appreciated to make it more clear to me
Thanks

 

99% usage on the GPU is great.

50% CPU usage means next to nothing for DX9 and DX11 games because they only have a single primary thread that can only run on a single CPU core (you have 4 real cores, and 4 hyperthreaded cores). If you have a single CPU core that is 90% or higher utilization, that means that you are CPU bound (bottlenecked) and your GPU usage will go down. For DX12, 50% CPU utilization is just fine because DX12 doesn't rely on a single CPU core to do most/all of the work.

Does that mean that being CPU bound happens 100% of the time in a game? Nope. Sometimes all it takes are lots of shadows or explosions to show you that your CPU can't feed that GPU fast enough (GPU usage drops below 90%).

Nvidia's DSR won't help you get better than 99% GPU utilization, yet it will help when you are CPU bound (bottlenecked).

With G-sync display technology, as long as you are above 35FPS it won't matter really if you do get CPU bound. G-sync smooths it out for you.

 

I have a question about the M.2 configuration for these machines. The one I'm going to receive has two NVMe SSDs, and IIRC, there are three slots available. Will a standard M.2 SATA (non-NVMe) drive work in the third slot in this configuration? I only ask because my Clevo doesn't support one NVMe and one SATA drive - it's either two SATA or one NVMe.

 

Yeah, the GT73VR supports (2) NVME m.2 drives and (1) SATA m.2 drive at once, along with a single 2.5" SATA drive. Mine has the stock striped (some say RAID 0) 128GB NVME m.2 drives, an aftermarket WD Blue 1TB SATA m.2, and an aftermarket 2TB Firecuda SATA III drive all working at the same time.

 

Alright. Only Thing I did in the BIOS was the VRE Current Limit set to 400.

Even so, I tried 41ghz -25mv, it gave me a better result [lesser cpu temp, more frames, looks like lesser GPU temp too(let me make sure of this, ill check it today)] than the previous setting which was 40ghz-50mv.

I use DGC only for DOTA2, other than that its closed.

 

I just want my temps as low as possible pre haha safety first DDD

 

Better turn your computer off and leave it off! Every second that it's on is one second less that it will work!

HA!

71C is actually quite good for a laptop with an overclocked CPU. My now returned Asus ROG with a 6820HK (and a single 1070) had its CPU temp hit 97C even when underclocked and undervolted - now THAT is too hot! Hell, my old M18X R2's 3920XM at 4.2GHz hit 87C.

 

Excellent. Just need to pick up a M.2 to 2.5-inch adapter since the two X400 drives I have now contain my games so I won't have to re-download them.


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wtf?

Bear with me, this is my first gaming laptop but i at least i have an idea now.Good for me then, Thanks!

 

Can anyone share a step by step to oc? Is it neccessary to flas 8A bios? Ive got 7re with 7820 if anyone cpuld provide step by step i would really appreciate it

 

thank you again
so is there any solution to solve CPU bottlenecked problem?

 

Can you post your BIOS OC settings here on the forum ? @HardCoreGamer4Life

 

I can't help you much with overclock settings as all I did was set my CPU multiplier to 42 and called it a day.

The 8A VBIOS is not needed for 2017 (7820HK CPU) models from what I've read. And as long as your laptop doesn't shut off and restart by itself during gaming and benchmarks you are good without it.

a) Use Nvidia's DSR to increase the resolution, effectively moving the bottleneck from the CPU to the GPU.

b) Overclock the CPU.

c) Get a new CPU, or a new laptop (preferably one with a desktop model 7700 or 7700K) as this model has a soldered on CPU that can't be replaced.

Those are your options for reducing a CPU bottleneck.

 

I spoke too soon about my GT73VR working.

I left it on overnight just copying files from my main rig over wireless, and got a white screen when I woke the monitor again the next morning. Reboot and no video out.

This has happened before and when completely stock. This time it was with that 8A VBIOS, which did seem to keep the laptop from shutting off when gaming and benchmarking, but hasn't helped this white screen/no video out on reboot.

So it looks like I'll have to try and send it back to Newegg for replacement, even though I did cut off the UPC for the $400 rebate that expired in thr 31st of May. Wish me luck.

 

thanks, my bios version is from 17/11/16 ive experienced actually couple of restarts but it was cos of firefox, well I supposed cos ive not experienced since I uninstalled any, ive tried horizon forza but had fps between 80-45 on ultra. had a couple of frame drops temps were ok ive seen once in dc 77 for cpu when I was gaming at 4.1ghz in dc. is it normal do you think? sorry ive never had a such beast machine and would like to set it up properly

EDIT:
so after uninstalling firefox problem wasnt sorted i hadnt restart while browsing but game was minimalized gonna give it a few days try to see whats happening

 

If the restarts stopped when you uninstalled Firefox, then I'd guess that the fault was with the software.

As far as FPS in Forza, personally if I was concerned about not getting the right performance I'd look up reviews of the game. Be sure you match up the same GPU, resolution, and graphics settings, and that will give you an idea as to whether or not there is an issue. Note: you have a laptop, so expecting the exact same results as a high end desktop isn't realistic due to the weaker laptop processor in the GT73VR. Some games will be close or on par, others won't be.

77C is a good temperature for your CPU. The max thermal limit on most i7s is around 100C, and I personally don't like to run in the 90C range as the processor will downclock.

If you want to minimize FPS dips, set your game's shadow setting to something lower to see if that helps. It may or may not help.

 

hi thanks for ur reply. i was just wondering if it wasnt frame drops but what still worry me is i had another restart after uninstalling firefox while browsing wasnt game was minimalized but still.. not sure what causing that ill give it try tomorrow while gaming at least for an hour to see if it restarts there as well or not

 

@Falkentyne, you know anything about this?

@specialist7 the gpuz picture you send me the only thing i saw different was device ID, my ends 11AF yours is B7

 

How can i check if my model is defective pls without games, does any benchmark shows it? Thx

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/234097/...ore-mainstream-desktop-processor-by-september

Could be there next CPU I'll be getting if not the X series 6 core.

 

Worth a look.