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I havent changed anything really i did set my BIOS back too default yesterday.
My PL1 and 2 are both on 200 in the BIOS.
But i dont remember what my CPU package power was,but i can run the test again.

 

Put both 230 in Bios. Or try this settings but with lower voltage as your chips can't handle this undervolt. See also bro @Phoenix settings.
Edit. Take a pict also of Performance Limits Reasons

 

@Papusan

Well i dont have too run for long too see that there is something complety wrong but i dont know what.
Im done with it,gonna set it too stock settings,he probably runs hot there also,not even gonna test it.

 

Please go into your Bios to the OC section and set VR Current Limit (ICCMax) to 400.

 

Yeh i had done that before but i only got bluescreens,but im getting bluescreens at full stock settings already Haha.....i changed it too 400 again but im sure it will crash again.
Its getting better and better...

 

It's only a limit. Not the real reason for your Bluescreen's.

 

Did anyone figure out how to fix the black screen on wake from sleep problem?

I've got the latest geforce drivers and windows 10, it still happens

 

1. deacitvate the device Installation Settings for Windows updates
2. Use DDU to remove the Nvidia Driver
3. Install the latest Driver again

This help me a few month ago.

 

This doesn't seem to have worked, and now it black screens after the MSI logo at boot

 

in this case i would recommend the bios reset with the on/off button
this should work this time.

 

EDIT: Problem solved re waking to black screen on W10

Cleared CMOS, changing REFCLK at all causes sleep to break.
All other setting changes are tolerated

 

Hi! I´ve bought an acer predator z35 but I´m experiencing some serious colour banding. This problem doesn´t occur with the integrated grapichs card. I´ve been trying different settings in nvidia´s control panel with any improvement. I´ve also updated to the last bios but the problem still is not fixed. Has anyone experienced this issue??? Thank you very much

 

My panel is gsync.
Iv not oc yet but in dgc im at 4 stable. No repast yet

 

You lost the Z35 QA lottery. They are known to have color banding if you get a bad panel.

All you can do is return it. I read of a guy who went through 3 of them, before he got one that didn't have it.

 

Has anybody changed the default mic setup on the GR73VR 7RE. I use a HyperX Cloud headset; when I have it plugged into the notebook through the mic and headphone jacks everything works properly. When i unplug the headset, the mic that is built in the notebook is then automatically activated. I have to go into the Control Panel to then disable the mic.

I'm sure its an easy fix to disable the onboard mic, but I can't find the solution.

 

This pretty much goes for any computer sound config. You have to disable the device manually.

 

Is there a way to disable the internal mic so it is never activated? It's a bit of an annoyance to have to do it manually every time the headset is unplugged.

 

Hello,
I am new to overcloking. I put on dragon centar cpu on turbo 4.1 and I played far cry primal about 10 min everything was good then I try crysis 3 and game stuck after 10 min and laptop restart and back clock on 4.0. I need to put bigger voltage or?
Thank you!

 

Yes it sounds like you need more volts, try a +25mv offset

 

My 6820hk is stable at 1.32v @ 4.2ghz

But my cinebench score is slightly better at 4ghz vs 4.2ghz but no throttling in hwinfo/Intel xtu. In firestrike, score is better at 4.2..

Do you have this problem too?

Does someone knows what's wrong?

P.s.: BTW thanks for your tutorial to unlock bios sirgeorge :-D

 

Did you set VR Current Limit (ICCMAX) to 100 amps? (in Bios this is a value of 400 in OC section).

 

Yes. I tried all combination (400 to 600A in bios) of ICC and power consumption (200 to 250w in bios)

I'll post some screenshot soon

 

If you're running unlocked bios go to overclocking performance menu -> cpu vr -> core/IA -> current limit = 1000
Also go to overclocking settings -> cpu vr -> ringVR -> current limit = 1000
That should work.

If not just use XTU to set the core and cache current limit to 250A each. I've had throttling before when I didn't increase cache current limit.

 

Where is "Ring VR"?
I don't have this option in the unlocked Bios.

It doesn't even show up in AMIBCP.

 

There.

Setting the current limit of both Core and Ring to 1000 in VR settings removes power limit.

 

Now that is completely weird.
In place of "Ring VR", I have "Acoustic Noise".

 

Ah the kaby lake bios is quite different to the skylake one.

Is there a ring/cache current limit slider in your XTU?

 

ah i uninstalled XTU.
Btw about your post about reflashing the device ID:

Going to reply to it now.

 

Wow... It's working. Finally more than 900 in cinebench score!

Thanks a lot !

 

Can i undervolt cpu in bios setting?
Or must with intel xtu

 

You need an unlocked Bios to undervolt in the Bios.
The "-" offset toggle is not in the regular Bios. It appears in the unlocked Bios.
Why not use Throttlestop to undervolt?

 

Actually I've got it to work without the color banding... I tried other laptop and the screen was fine. I've format my Gt73vr and now it's perfect! Only problem is that I have big fps drops on league of Legends if I use gsync. With other games is fine

 

Hi guys, I'm considering the 4k GT73 (Intel 7820,GTX1070) and the Alienware. Why is the MSI more expensive for the same configuration? Are there any coupons I can use? Where is the best place to buy?
Any issues I should know about? What RAM and storage configuration do you recommend?

Thanks.

 

MSI will have much better cooling power. While it will benefit from a repaste, the temps will be significantly lower with full fan speed, than the Alienware.
And we can't give you recommendations unless you tell us what you will be using the computer for.

Are you a gamer? Is this for gaming? Or business? Or both?

If you are gaming, do NOT get a 4k monitor with a 1070. The 1070 isn't powerful enough to drive 4k. Get the 1080.
The 1070 is fast enough for 1080p or even 1440p. But you don't even want a desktop 1070 driving a 4k monitor.

 

Thank you so much for your reply. No I'm not a gamer. Nor do I need it for business. What I need is a gorgeous screen. I like to open many tabs, sometimes, windows side by side.
How good are the colors and the contrast on the 4k screen? How is it compared to the Alienware?

 

That I can't answer

 

Any tips on getting coupons? Best place to buy?

 

Never used one, sorry.

 

If you're neither gaming nor doing any sort of professional work, why are you considering a 17-inch, 8+ pound laptop? Just curious.

You have any luck getting replacement fans from MSI?

 

Because I want a powerful laptop with a great 4k screen. I'm not wedded to the idea of having a gaming laptop, but most other laptops don't have good screens. Any suggestions you might have are greatly appreciated. Thanks.

 

What do you need the power for?

A Dell XPS 15 or Razer Blade Pro have nice displays.

 

Unfortunately the XPS line tops at 15 inch. I'm used to a 17 inch screen. Razer is very expensive compared to a similarly specced MSI and Alienware, isn't it?

 

Hello,
Do anybody here have big speakers distortion on high volume? It is like you here plastic of the laptop. I tried to remove drivers,nahimic to put new version,everything. Still the same.

Thank you!

 

Man the gold plating in my headphone jack was getting looser and looser, finally fell out. The jack still works though.

It's definitely not something I'm going to be without my laptop for weeks, to get fixed.

Just put mine on 100 to test, super bass heavy music. Zero distortion.

If you're going to buy a GT73VR, this deal is by far the best, if you're in the US.

 

Then I have faulty speakers?

 

Hey guys I need some help. I have just picked up a GT73VR 017. It was used like new from amazon. It appears pristine. It IS sadly doing the crashing thing. I did a clean install per @Phoenix instructions. I was a bit confused because his laptop is the newer kaby lake 7rf instead of the 6re I have so I didn't use the drivers he linked, rather I used the ones off MSi's page for my specific laptop. I also used the older Nvidia driver from MSi's site not the newest from Nvidia's site.

I have not flashed the BIOS because it does not appear that the one on their website is for win 10: https://us.msi.com/Laptop/support/GT73VR-TITAN-6th-Gen-GTX-1070.html#down-bios. It has instructions for Win 7 and Win 8 but nothing mentioned about 10. I think it's safe but am not certain. I don't want to brick the laptop so I'm stuck. I believe i should try the 'chinese' vbios to fix the crashing issue but is that compatible with my laptop?

Any suggestions?

 

The GT73VR 7RF, 7RE, 6RF and 6RE can use the exact same drivers. The 6 and 7 models also have the exact same bios within its generation (meaning 6RE and 6RF use the exact same bios).
Apparently the same EC firmware can be used on all of the models, as long as the base model is the same (GT73VR), as the chipsets are extremely identical (CM236 vs CM238).
The only thing that you need to check for your model on the MSI site are the Vbios (only because 1080 needs a different vbios than 1070), and system Bios (Kaby Lake requires a different Bios than skylake). That's all, unless you changed out the killer Nic for an Intel.

The 8A Bios can prevent 1070 crashes on 6RE supplied cards because there seems to be a problem with how those cards deal with boost 2 clocks (the clocks which exceed boost 1 clocks if temperature and throttle targets are not reached, which are supposed to be limited by Voltage Reliability, but some problem with either the voltage or clocks makes them crash. 8A Bios disables boost 2 clocks so it will be capped at boost 1 clocks (this requires a hard power off after flashing; rebooting won't work).

 

Thank you! You guys are so helpful and I'd be lost without these forums! I will probably do another clean install and take my time and get everything perfect when I pick up a larger SSD. For now I mainly wanted to see if I should return it or not. As is came from amazon, I have 30 days to return it. I work a lot so I want to find out if it's ok or not quickly as I can. I updated to the official vbios from the MSi page for my laptop and so far no more crashing. I will continue to load this thing up with tons of tasks and see if it crashes. Should I do any OC'ing on the GPU to ensure it's hitting the boost clock that would cause a crash? GPU-z is showing 1875 for max while playing PUBG. It was crashing all over the place before. If I understand there is no specific way to test the crashing you just have to game and run benchmarks for a while, is that correct?

EDIT: it's crashed a couple times again. Oddly not while under load. Once while in pub menu and next when game was restarting. Of course pub is unstable as all hell anyway so maybe not the best game to test on. Going to try out some Battlefield 1 now. If I get more crashes, will move over to 8A bios
So... BF1 won't even launch. Tries to start windowed stays on desktop and says there was a problem.

 

Can you take a video of it?

 

As said previously, for 2016 models, you need to disable the Boost 2 clocks by using the 8A Bios. You can use this one.

There seem to be problems with the 2016 version 1070 cards when Boost 1 clocks are exceeded (This can only happen at LOW TDP load, as most of the time, TDP throttling at 115W will prevent you from ever reaching boost 2 clocks). The 2017 cards (or rather the 1070 cards included with "7RE" and "7RF" (including GT72VR) systems seem to be fine. Boost 2 clocks are supposed to be limited by temperature (13 mhz drop every 5C, starting at 42C), and by voltage preventing the clock from going any higher (VREL throttling, or Voltage Reliability). Something in the 2016 cards is causing crashes, possibly a wrong clock or wrong voltage being set in hardware; it's not the Vbios causing it, it's the card itself).

8A Vbios will prevent the cards from exceeding boost 1 clocks. Some people prefer using this Bios even on 2017 fully working cards, as the boost 1 clocks seem to be more stable and vary less within the 115W TDP. Someone suggested this may be due to a lower voltage curve thus causing lower temps and less TDP throttling, but I can't verify this.