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Wow, if that's true it sucks.

FWIW, I'm using a Detla 330W PSU with my GT73VR 7RE just fine, and it worked for my lemon 6RE as well before MSI replaced it.

This is the one that I purchased and am using to great effect: http://lps-gopower.com/lps-ac-adapt...pro-4k479-charger-ac-adapter-330w-p-7022.html

 

Actually, when shipping to EU countries, we ship from the UK. email me for details.

 

I was able to overclock my laptop to 4.4 GHz (44,43,43,42) with a -50mV undervolt easily because I got sick of how Dragon Center forces a max overclock of only 4.1 GHz so now no more Dragon Center and I'm in control! BIOS Overclocking FTW!

@Papusan Before you tell me to post my Cinebench Score, I will, just downloading 120GB worth of Games from Steam once it's done I'll show you my Cinebench

@Falkentyne >>>> The Voltage/power draw analyzer >>>>

 

Probably 'realistic' system power draw limit.
Think for a moment.
How are you going to draw 460 watts on 230W of video card (115W TDP X2)?
With both video cards pulling 230W total, what else in the system is going to pull another 230W? CPU will pull about 85W with realistic high stress, 30W for mainboard, LCD, DRAM and USB, that's 115W, that's 345W assuming everything were going full tilt. Yes you could force the CPU to exceed 100W with a very high overclock, or with some absurd 8 thread AVX load you will never see in games, but I'm not getting there.

From what I have been able to find out, the 330W PSU can pull about 350W to the system (380W from the wall) before it shuts down. The most I was able to get the 330W PSU to draw was 315W (350W from the wall) on a heavily modded 1070 running Valley, with a 4 thread AVX load hitting the CPU. That's probably what MSI expects users to draw. No one ever knew that MXM 1070's would be able to be TDP modded so I doubt MSI ever thought a system would pull over 360W.

tl;dr: Don't worry about it. That being said, @sirgeorge has already seen over 400W pulled on his GT73VR 6RE SLI system, with 150W TDP modded 1070's. So ignore MSI's "specifications".

 

I'm sure you know you will get 42x scores It's fake 44x bruh. Seee...


Edit. This is all you will get with 4.4 GHz (44,43,43, 42) Test it. See if the score fit 4.4GHz 4.2GHz

 

Better one from fake 44x (44,43,43, 42)


This with Anti virus running + internet (44,43,43, 42)


Edit. The joy with ThrottleStop... You can play with it and a few sec later you can put what clocks you want, bruh.
Take the step up (44,43,43, 43)


And finally what you should have (44,44,44,44) Not the fake 44x (Mind you, Dellienware who now is down the drain advertise overclocking but don't want mention it's only for one single core ).

Spoiler: Down the Drain!!

 

question guys wtih the 1080, is there a way to change the power limit using msi afterburner? its greyed out even when checking unlock voltage control

trying to push it to limit, i got my 7820hk OC to 4.4ghz stable with 72 max temp and it drops to mid 60's with fans up. man its blazing!!!

 

No, no way to do this without modding vbios

 

Do we have a modded vbios available yet for the pascal gPu?


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If I hack the BIOS, can I revert it back to the stock one anytime, of it's a one-way?
EDITED: yes anytime you can flash the stock bios again.

 

@Papusan @Falkentyne @Ionising_Radiation @ole!!!

Here's my Cinebench @ 4.4 GHz on all cores with no throttling

 

I who hoped you should run fake 44x +rep after Cinebench with fake 44x bru. You will now get it beforehand Don't forget put 44,43,43,42

 

Very nice. Well done! Proof that good VRMs, a good board and clean power can get any chip to do what you want it to. Which unfortunately a lot of notebooks don't have.

 

I actually did set it up that way in the BIOS, 44, 43, 43, 42 but when you save and Exit, if you go back to the Turbo options, they are all at 44X

I initially did the fake 44X as I was just testing the waters since you know I've only run this CPU before @ 4.2 GHz but oh well, I've been running for 2 days @ 44x4 with no issues with a -50mV undervolt oh and my Cache Frequency is at 4.0 GHz. Even if you set the Cache to 4.4 GHz the BIOS caps it at -300MHz of whatever the CPU Core Max is or 4 GHz

 

BTW @Papusan
I set the nVIDIA Power Management to High Performance and I only got 126 FPS sometimes 129 FPS in Open GL but when I set it to adaptive and rebooted, I got 141 FPS

Classical nVIDIA Swiss Cheese

 

Try Optimal Maybe you pass 150

 

I have not the time for optimal jokes bro. the GPU clocks will be at 0 MHz when there is no screen draw. No thank you. Pass me the french fries please

 

Or I can pass you your next purchase

 

I'm not far behind, @4.3 GHz with my 6820HK

 

sounds about right but why no OpenGL test bro? Your CPU temps are super low as well. Are you @Papusan friend?

 

That snappy Dragon in that taptop is not snappy at all

 

Pure cpu bench here. Where can I find OpenGL bench on the bot?

 

I don't remember, probably did it after the CPU test and forgot to take a screenshot !
About the temperatures, it's just classic liquid metal magic

 

and perhaps you won the silicon lottery mon ami

 

Time to crash the party. @Phoenix @Papusan



No I can't game at this speed.
However this one it seems I can:

 

Did you fiddle with Intel Balance Settings in TS? Set CPU to 31 and GPU to 9 or 11. It prioritizes for more power for CPU.
Try changing the CB r15 priority to realtime and run it. If your undervolt is stable you will get better scores, bro.

 

How to change the dragon center cpu fan control table? I update teh EC to the latest one, but the new cpu fan table is so stupid, with 3 monitoring points under 50°C while there is a large gap between 50°C and 85°C.
I think the old fan table is much better, so can I downgrade to the old EC? I cant find the EC installer on the MSI website.

 

Which option is it?

 

Internal Graphics Auto->Enabled.
you shouldn't have to mess with those options in AMIBCP. All you have to do is to set the menu itself (System Agent, then Graphics Configuration) to Supervisor. Or what you want to appear.

This isn't going to help you in windows anyway as the iGPU driver doesn't even load even though it's present in device manager if you enable that setting while the Nvidia card is active.

 

I assume you're trying to unlock the Bios.
You do know that you won't be able to flash the edited APTIO capsule unless you follow Sirgeorge's post (many many many pages ago) on changing the Bios Lock setting to disabled right? And I HOPE that file you are editing is NOT the file you downloaded from MSI! That will cause an INSTANT Brick. You need to dump the bios capsule manually with FPTX64.exe -d Bios.bin -bios (rename bios.bin to whatever) then edit that. then you flash it back with FPTx64. But the flash will fail unless you set the Bios Lock setting to disabled. For that, you need to get the GUID key for that setting by following @sirgeorge 's instructions (and changing it for your model as the locations will be DIFFERENT on a 6RE vs 7RE (6re and 6rf will have the same locations), by using the tools he mentioned on the official MSI file, and then installing the boot tools to a flash drive so you can access that setting via an EFI boot. Only then will you be able to flash the capsule you dumped and edited.

If you're going all in like that, try unlocking the DDR voltage option (VDD), although I THINK there are two locations for this under "Memory configuration" and see if that is still greyed out or if it works. Never got that setting to work.

 

Where do u change this setting at?


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I don't care if the two graphics adapters don't show in Windows. What I want is to have both of them available on Linux, because I want to do GPU passthrough of the Nvidia card to a KVM virtual machine. I need two graphics adapters for that and with the stock configuration only one shows at a time.

ROM modding done. Now I try to flash the modded bios but fails (I'm doing this directly from the Windows 10 powershell):

Code:

PS C:\Users\MSI\Downloads\bios\MSI BIOS MOD\FPT11\WINDOWS64> .\FPTW64.exe -F .\bios-modded.rom -bios

Intel (R) Flash Programming Tool. Version:  11.0.15.1000
Copyright (c) 2007 - 2016, Intel Corporation. All rights reserved.

Reading HSFSTS register... Flash Descriptor: Valid

        --- Flash Devices Found ---
        GD25Q64 ID:0xC84017     Size: 8192KB (65536Kb)


Error 368: Failed to disable write protection for the BIOS space.
FPT Operation Failed.

 

Bro, You should run without Hwinfo and don't run the useless Open GL test. See, your 1080 will be crushed by old stock clocked 980M in CBR15 Open GL test. It's a useless benchmark test, bruh!!


Instead start up again with ThrottleStop as before (useful both for monitoring and play with clocks). Maybe @Falkentyne can give you a few suggestions on voltage for 4.5GHz. Mind you, you use Liquid Metal.

Exactly where 4.7GHz should be located. From 1036-1050 depends on how much trash you have running in background.

 

Yes, I followed all the steps on the post #7623. My offset is 0x5AE the same as @sirgeorge, and did change 01 to 00 and hit Control+W. Apparently everything went ok.
Then I grab the bios with .\FPTW64.exe -D .\bios-stock.rom -bios and open it with AMIBCP64.exe. After that I save the modded one to a different file and try to flash it back but fails.

 

Finally was able to fix the error:

Code:

Error 368: Failed to disable write protection for the BIOS space.
FPT Operation Failed.

You have to disable Secure Boot, and then make a bootable usb pendrive that includes RU. Then, edit the offset of Setup at 0x5AE (depends on your system) from 0x01 to 0x00, reboot and check again. I had to do it 5 or 6 times until the value remained to 0x00 after a reboot. After that, I can flash back the modded bios:

Code:

PS C:\Users\MSI\Downloads\bios\MSI BIOS MOD\FPT11\WINDOWS64> .\FPTW64.exe -D bios-stock-unlocked -bios

Intel (R) Flash Programming Tool. Version: 11.0.15.1000
Copyright (c) 2007 - 2016, Intel Corporation. All rights reserved.

Reading HSFSTS register... Flash Descriptor: Valid

--- Flash Devices Found ---
GD25Q64 ID:0xC84017 Size: 8192KB (65536Kb)


- Reading Flash [0x0800000] 6144KB of 6144KB - 100 percent complete.
Writing flash contents to file "bios-stock-unlocked"...

Memory Dump Complete
FPT Operation Successful

Code:

PS C:\Users\MSI\Downloads\bios\MSI BIOS MOD\FPT11\WINDOWS64> .\FPTW64.exe -F .\bios-unlocked-modded.rom -bios

Intel (R) Flash Programming Tool. Version: 11.0.15.1000
Copyright (c) 2007 - 2016, Intel Corporation. All rights reserved.

Reading HSFSTS register... Flash Descriptor: Valid

--- Flash Devices Found ---
GD25Q64 ID:0xC84017 Size: 8192KB (65536Kb)

PDR Region does not exist.
GbE Region does not exist.

- Reading Flash [0x0800000] 6144KB of 6144KB - 100 percent complete.
- Erasing Flash Block [0x2A9000] - 100 percent complete.
- Programming Flash [0x02A9000] 4KB of 4KB - 100 percent complete.
- Erasing Flash Block [0x498000] - 100 percent complete.
- Programming Flash [0x0498000] 456KB of 456KB - 100 percent complete.
- Verifying Flash [0x0800000] 6144KB of 6144KB - 100 percent complete.
RESULT: The data is identical.

FPT Operation Successful.

The problem is, that the modded values to the following keys don't appear on the BIOS and don't have any effect when booting Linux (only 1 VGA is shown):
Setup Configuration > Unnamed folder > Setup > Advanced > System Agent (SA) Configuration > Graphics Configuration > Internal Graphics (Handle 07EC) > Access/Use to Supervisor and Failsafe and Optimal to Enabled.

EDITED: DON'T CHANGE INTERNAL GRAPHICS DEFAULT VALUES TO ENABLED, IF YOU SELECT DGPU ALSO YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO BOOT ANYMORE THE COMPUTER. JUST LEAVE FAILSAFE AND OPTIMAL WITH THE DEFAULT VALUES.

 

@Paloseco
Glad you got that working. Good advice on disabling secure boot. Hopefully other bios modders will remember that.
As far as the options not appearing, did you set the previous folders above that to supervisor?
Try just enabling all options to supervisor and then try it.
I never tried enabling just ONE option. Might as well go balls deep and enable everything.
There's some really nice options that can help stabilize overclocks and reduce temps/power draw as well.

When you flashed the bios successfully with FPTX64, did the system do 5 boot loops after a "long" black screen power on session?

Keep in mind you may have to do a full AC power off, unplug and replug AC afterwards (just in case).
Usually when a Bios is flashed, the system does like 5 boot loops.

Did you try enabling VDD (memory voltage) option in memory configuration?
There should be two values there to enable.

 

About disabling secure boot, you have to disable it from BIOS (pressing DEL key) at boot time, and also when modding the BIOS with AMIBCP64 from Setup > Advanced > PCH-IO Configuration > BIOS Security Configuration > BIOS Lock:

• Show: Yes
• Access/Use: Supervisor
• Failsafe: disabled
• Optimal: disabled

Also, I've noticed that the value 0x5AE in Setup will change to 0x01 eventually even if you set BIOS lock to unlocked in the two previous steps, so you need to use the usb bootable flashdrive with RU a lot, specially each time you want to flash again a modded BIOS.
You need RU to fix this:

Code:

Error 368: Failed to disable write protection for the BIOS space.
FPT Operation Failed.

I think changing Boot Mode Select from LEGACY to UEFI triggers automatically the BIOS protection, because re-enables secure boot and even disabling it afterwards doesn't work, you need RU again.

After flashing a modded BIOS, I don't experience any longer than usual booting time, or reboots. The only time I notice 2 reboots (because the hard drive spins and the stops) is when I switch graphics cards, either from the BIOS once is unlocked or from the physical button on the side of the laptop.

Didn't check yet VDD because I don't think I need it.

About the Internal Graphics (07EC) option not being shown, I've discovered already the reason: you have to enable too all the folders/categories containing the option you want to change. For example, to show Internal Graphics, you have to change to Show=Yes and Access/Use=Supervisor the following entries:

• Setup
  
• Advanced
• System Agent (SA) Configuration
• Graphics Configuration

If you don't do that the value will be modified internally but will not be shown to you in the BIOS settings because they are nested and each level of nesting has to be allowed to be displayed.

In any case, after changing Internal Graphics from Auto to Enabled, I couldn't get both VGA cards to be shown in Linux with lspci, so no idea what else to try.

 

Well this is not a multi GPU system. Some found that enabling the iGPU in this way actually reduces battery drain when approaching max rated system power draw (this has to be combined with setting RC6 Render Standby from enabled to Disabled, but the chinese people who did that used the key combo to unlock the Bios, rather than hard editing). I don't know if this is something that is set at POST time, depending on video card detection (230W=160W cutoff, 330W=245W cutoff), but while changing the EC RAM value of register "E3" from 10 to 11 (90 to 91 on kaby lake systems) changes the max power draw to the GTX 1080 ID (330W), I saw absolutely no change at all in rate of battery drain on my system, when using an abnormal system load (330W power ID, with prime95 + game/benchmark in the background with a TDP modded 1070), with enabling the iGPU and disabling that value. So I don't know if it only affects the 'original' power ID's battery drain rate and it being changed in windows not having any effect, but regardless, I'm getting off topic again. I also don't know if this "trick" works for kaby lake system or not. I could...um...waste a bunch of time of my life by using the original 230W power ID, running Valley with 195W TDP and watching the EC throttle the CPU (rest of system will exceed 230W) and checking the battery drain rate, with iGPU enabled+RC6 disabled, and compare it to without. But here I am rambling again typing useless stuff that no one cares about.

Only way to prevent any battery drain (battery boost @Papusan ) is to disconnect the battery, change EC RAM register E3 to your desired power ID, then change register 31 to 09 and register 42 to 64, together (failure to do this will cap the power limit at the ORIGINAL power ID cutoff point (even if you changed it live).e.g. 160W if you have a 1070 installed.

@Paloseco
About VDD:
Just wanted to know if you even got the item to be enabled and changeable or not. With the "key combination", VDD shows up but is unselectable. I know some people with Clevos had this option but it didn't even change anything until they did something else (Or used a Prema bios).

 

Remeber have a screew driver and plastic bag for on the go (ready in your backpack). You will need it Don't screw a way the screws Always have some as spare. And don't gimp on tools... Buy a proper screw driver.

 

@Falkentyne I've checked the VDD and yes, I have "VDD Enable" and it's enabled, probably it's there by default I because don't remember touching it with AMIBCP64. I don't know what key combination is that, do I need to test for it?

About the Internal Graphics, well, apparently WORKS. The default option is Auto, which really means Disabled. But after changing it to Enabled, Linux lspci can see an additional device:

Code:

00:02.0 Display controller [0380]: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 [8086:191b] (rev 06)

Is this already a multi-GPU? I want to get the famous GPU passthrough of the Nvidia card to the guest virtual machine while the host runs with the Intel HD 530

 

No one has attempted this yet. You can be the first!

@Paloseco
Can you actually CHANGE the VDD?
In the Memory Configuration, VDD is set to 1.20v.
Can you actually change this value, e.g. to 1.25v+ ?

I wonder if it actually will change anything.
Might be useful if people want to buy that 3600 mhz Gskill SODIMM stuff.

 

delete.

 

@Falkentyne @Papusan

I disabled the overclocking feature in BIOS, then enabled Fast boot and saved, now it sticks!

But it's not worth it if we can't overclock, this sucks

 

I see in Memory Configuration, several parameters at the top, but are with black letters. There are Memory RC Version, Memory Frequency, Total Memory, VDD (shows 1200), Memory 1 to 4, Memory Timings. But don't see how can I change it, below there are values in blue that can be changed, but don't see VDD. Maybe I need to edit the bios again with AMIBCP64?

 

Hmm. At the bottom in that area (above those weird DLLDQ strange thingies, I forgot what they are spelled), by the timings, there is VDD, which shows 1200 (not in the area where you see the black text), but this option is "greyed out" (unselectable). I was assuming if you had "VDD enable" (which I do NOT have) selected to enabled, then you could change the MV. All I know is I can't change it.
I'm slowly editing my own dump to set everything to supervisor and going to see if that changes anything. But it takes too long so I'm not in a rush.

 

Do I need to turn on the V-sync in the Nvidia control panel?
If I only turn on the G-sync, the FPS in some game(i.e. cs:go) will exceed 120FPS(my screen only refresh at 120HZ).

 

So how does someone actually get *THIS* CPU heatsink for the GT73VR?



@Papusan @Phoenix @Mr. Fox @Coolane

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5328728675...25718&cid=112237976910&from=prin#112237976910

Or is this someone's private mod or something?

Ok I spent too much time wasting time today.

 

Can’t read Chinese on my small phone. Compare with pictures from reviews on Notebookcheck. I’m sure you know if it will fit.

 

Try searching for MUX/MUXless. Like @Falkentyne fiddling with wrong option can wreck your Optimus config ruining both GPUs(soft brick).