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That's great that you went the manual route for tuning, but you also need to manually select the "High Performance" power plan - make sure the CPU Performance is set to Min/Max 100%/100%.

Also, in the Nvidia GPU Control panel set the Global 3D settings for power to "Pefer High Performance" and I also set "Single Display Performance" rather than multi-display.

You should reboot after making and saving Nvidia control panel settings to make sure they stick.

Happy Holidays

 

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After repaste MX4 and lapping the CPU heatsink to remove the scratches, ran benchmark test fire strike on Turbo Mode

Max Temp on 4 cores & Package

Core#0 84°
Core#1 71°
Core#2 82°
Core#3 67°
Package 84°

I think I messed up something, what you think....bad re-paste or shouldn't lap the heat sink....?

 

It would be interesting to know the locations of the cores, maybe the lap job is perfectly flat or screws on one side are tighter. What were the average temps?

 

temperatures jump fast when core is in use or not. should not worry about that. had mine repaste with kryonaut. same

 

May be, but I also lapped the heat sink and lapping sometime cause surface uneven or bad contact with dye. Will do re paste when gets hand on Kryonaut, it's on the way....

Second run of test and same result @DukeCLR the average temperatures has no big difference but looks like core0 is doing all the heavy lifting....

 

cores are not in direct contact with surface of heatsink. in the processor also is heat transfer. i think best you can see is running prime95 at max with max heat. there you realy can see how much heat your processor is generating.

 

Prime95 answers all the questions....now just have to pull the cpu heatsink to see that either its bad repaste or bad lap, will do it when get hands on Kryonaut

 

Yikes, was the paste you removed thicker? maybe it filled in the gaps that the new paste doesn't

 

yes it was thick paste and I used MX4 which is not thick and easy to spread...but found the problem and it's not just paste...

 

found some left over of MX4 and pulled both CPU & GPU heat sink, repasted and ran the Prime95 and firestrike benchmark

It was just not bad lap, it was also bad re paste,

Prime 95 temp result after re paste

 

Happy holidays everyone.

I decided to buy this art of work from Xotic PC and i have some questions:

Do i need IC Diamond and extra copper pipes?

Afte i buy it what is the first thing i need to do with it? for example what should i update in order and where to fine it?

And what about Bios? what should i need to do first before adjust the frequency? do i need an update? cause i didn't touch a bios in my life

 

I would read through this post if you can, many of us posted our experiences but I'll try to sum it up. I'm not sure re pasting is necessary but you could spend that money and have them update everything for you then ship it, that would not only save you time but ensure that you don't get a lemon. If you decide to get an untouched laptop then you should let windows update fully, install drivers then run some benchmarks and see if your thermals are OK.

 

when you lap the heatsink how did you do it?
you might've put too much pressure on one side and shaved away too much copper.

 

Exactly 5 days ago, on 20Dec, I opened the ticket on MSI support too and lost the heat sink claim case.

and the best of the best part is since the lap I m playing games e.g COD infinite warfare on 1080p and Turbo mode on Auto Fans, CPU temp never hits 75 and still playing the game.....lolzzzzz....so I think with uneven heatsink GT73 beats the AW17.....and the last Prime95 bench mark test with Auto Fans after MX4 re paste (pea method)



above test result shows me that I haven't totally screwed the heat sink.....

How do I lap the heat sink makes me laugh, really laugh....because this is where I **ck** it up, I was holding the heatsink in one hand and sand paper was warped on the finger on other hand and I was lapping the heatsink, I know what I did wrong and what's the right way to lap the heat sink but that time I totally forget it, now have to re lap it again but will wait for Kryonaut and thermal pads, just one more week.

yes you are right, the scratches were at top and core0 & core3 comes at top and these both cores are on high temps where core2 & core4 temps are good.....but I didn't lap too much just enough to remove the scratches and scratches were the focus so yes there I definitely put too much pressure.

still needs your thoughts on it after all the mess up and benchmark tests, I'm pretty sure i made the heat sink uneven...still need your opinion on it......

 

In your next post u said that you got it done the recovery
Can you tell me how u did it please? I have the same problem

 

maybe you can buy another heatsink from msi/your vendor?

 

That will be the last option, I m sure I can fix it, just needs the right tool and must be focused....done re lapping before many times and never messed up, but everything happen first time.....

 

I had to lap valve seats when I took an advanced reciprocating engines course, there was a special flat plate of steel that you would lay the emery cloth on, I did a similar thing when I lapped a Hyper 212 years ago and it was smooth and even, you could put it on glass and see if any light shine through, you could also try a thicker thermal compound to fill the gap. No matter what happens it sure seems that you uneven core heating isn't happening because of the CPU but because or the heat sync.

 

You are right uneven core heating are not because of CPU it's just because CPU has bad (uneven) contact with heatsink.

The first Prime95 test I ran, I did re-pasting (spread method) and temp hit 95 and I have to hit the Titan cooler button to keep the CPU cool and even the fan spinning at 5000RPM failed to bring the Temp down from 95 (uneven core temperatures) and have to stop the test at 2nd step and I thought great this laptop has Titan Cooler Boost button otherwise I might fry the CPU today .

Before second Prime95 test, I did re-paste (pea method) and let the heatsink pressure to spread the paste and Prime95 completed 7 tests and I cancelled it because I saw the difference and CPU Temp max 91 with uneven different core temperatures.

Yes Thicker paste is one of the solution, waiting for it, will try and post back the result in first week of Jan before re lapping the heatsink to confirm that it's not paste (MX4)

Thanks for the tip to lap the heat sink....

 

Thanks for your replay but as you see it's above 180 pages how can someone read all these pages.
I hope someone sum the point i asked for .

And what is the the option in Xotic that i choose to let them update everything for me?

 

Iirc that's called a machinist block

 

you can use ic Diamond for that. i used zalman stg2 also. used it in clevo notebook. heatsink in there are worse. these compound are very thick, very well performance.

 

Did the high pitched noise disappeared since you mentionned it? I just got a brand new gt73vr and I can ear this noise when fans kick in. It is like one of the fan rubs against the housing.

 

I have a GT73VR 6RF since two weeks from amazon.co.uk. (6820HK, 1080GTX, 2x256GB RAID 0 SSD, 32 GB RAM, 1080p 120 Hz screen with GSYNC, 16.9 A PSU)

Notebook seems brand new with warranty sticker on proper place and no sign of any previous use.

My PRO experiences with the notebook:
- never had any crashes, seems very stable
- Windows updated without any pain (there was a very first release windows 10 on this notebook)
- 120 Hz screen with gsync is awesome. Also I have an external 4K big screen on HDMI @ 60 Hz without problems.
- no dead pixels
- very good performance with 4.1 Ghz CPU and 200 Mhz GPU boost: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11852918
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16931587
- OC was very stable with stock voltages to 4.1 Ghz (4.2 Ghz crashes in prime, I need apply more voltage but I had no time yet to try it, 4.1 seems to be fair enough)
- RAID 0 SSD-s are awesome fast. I have never seen anything like this.
- Dragon Center is easy to use

My CONs:
- Dragon Center was unable to set proper CPU multiplier. Even if you set to Turbo mode nothing really happens, the set multiplier was never applied. Solution: I had to uninstall Intel Extreme Tuning Utility and reinstall newer one from Intel site. From this point Dragon Center Shift feature worked like charm.
- Dragon Center unable to display proper CPU voltage and frequency. Solution: as previous one
- My CPU fan has a very annoying noise at around 2400 RPM. Solution: Dragon Center with advanced fan mode I just skipping this interval for CPU fan
- HOME and END button on keyboard is missing. (Alted to PGUP AND PGDN) Solution: remap them to Scroll Lock and Pause buttons with SteelSeries3 (I never use scroll lock and pause)

Overall:
Very recommended, best of best

 

Yes, it's all coming back to me, I remember the professor saying if he saw anyone doing anything other then lapping valve seats with they would "be here next semester" I also remember using a figure 8 pattern to help balance the pressure and then using some sort of dye to check the lapping job.

Just start with what I advised then come back with any questions, I get that its a huge forum which makes to find some of the information. I think the most important thing is to let windows 10 update fully before messing with any drivers. The get the latest drivers from MSI, the only exception is that the Killer suite has cause some issues so most of us have downloaded the driver only package from Killer directly. After you run Prime 95 for about 5 minutes check your temperatures and post them here if you have questions. I can't remember what the exact option was but I thinks its down in the software options, just below the options for Windows. I had shopped at several sites but ended up using Newegg for both timing and finance options.

 

[/QUOTE]Just start with what I advised then come back with any questions, I get that its a huge forum which makes to find some of the information. I think the most important thing is to let windows 10 update fully before messing with any drivers. The get the latest drivers from MSI, the only exception is that the Killer suite has cause some issues so most of us have downloaded the driver only package from Killer directly. After you run Prime 95 for about 5 minutes check your temperatures and post them here if you have questions. I can't remember what the exact option was but I thinks its down in the software options, just below the options for Windows. I had shopped at several sites but ended up using Newegg for both timing and finance options.[/QUOTE]

Once i get my hands on it i'll do as u said.
BTW i only found two options in Xotic said (OS boost, Clean installation)

 

It looks like the option I was referring to was trhe clean OS installation option at GentechPC. The one for $45.00. I'm not sure what Xotic Pcs OS boost is, you should call them and ask perhaps it's a similar thing.

 

OS Boost is a scam
The copper heatsinks are a scam

I selected the other option, which wipes everything. Remove your other drive if you don't want to lose the data, if you haven't backed it up recently.

I then had the recover software put the recovery partition on the OS drive, so I don't have the issue, if I again change out the storage drive.

 

the copper cooling upgrade is bullcrap

you need a thick book to put on the rear of laptop to elevate the machine, this will give better airflow. subsitute anything that can be used to lift the rear of the computer

bios will work just fine out of the box, but if you want fully unlocked option you need to donate to svet at msi forum

 

Just a friendly reminder for those overclocking their CPUs and wanting to mess with tweaks, at stock voltages and 4.0Ghz, the 6820HK in the Gt73 is current limited. With 225 amps it is enough to run at max power without current limit.

Obviously this means higher temps in demanding benches like prime95, so use at your own risk!

I merely found out I was current limited on stock when running even the intel benchmark.

I changed all my values and tweaked everything on BIOS, but this is not recommended because an incorrect setting can be your doom! (partially, just gotta be careful and know how to reset CMOS).

 

i agree. raising current limit raises temperature fast.

 

then nope no messing with Bios for me

 

Yes there is an option says "Clean Windows Installation (Install drivers only - no bloatwares) (For factory installed OS only, not required if OS upgrade is selected) (XPC Service)"

is tha it?

I'll gonna buy coolermaster cooling pad i thinks it's enough, and the bios i'll leave it as it is

 

Yes, I think that coupled with the zero dead pixle deal would cut way down on the lemon factor.

I'm not sure you need a cooling pad, this thing has great cooling, I do stick an Altoids box under the back of mine if I'm set up on a crowded desk, it also make the typing angle more comfortable.

 

Latest drivers have given me another bump in performance;



Pretty happy with that score from a 6820HK and 1070 GTX.

 

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Hey guys juat applied grizzly LM to my gt73vr vr running firestrike not for temps .. so far fans haven't even made a sound . Also idle was 20c on the CPU I'll post a screen shot with 4.0 OC and you 200/450 gpu


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Nevermind, I figured it out.

 

don't waste money

read guide on how to clean install os here

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nbr-windows-10-clean-installation-guide.781178/

 

Hi guys, i just bought GT73 VR 6RE titan cpu 6820HK - gtx 1070 8GB, but after 5 days use, i have issue:
i install win 10 anniversary build 1607 for raid0(2x128ssd samsung 951), lastest Bios, Ec firmware, driver nvidia, intel hd... When i press button gpu from intel hd graphic to exchange gtx nvidia: Oke
Press button gpu gtx nvidia to exchange intel hd...: unreacted, why ?, i can't use intel hd graphic when i use button gpu. Please help me ?
p/s: sorry, my english is not good

 

You need to go to msi.com and download system control manager (SCM) utility and then it will work.

 

Sorry if this has been asked before but I can't find it. What is the make and model of the 512 GB SSDs in the GT73VR Titan Pro 4K-200 model? Thx

 

OMG, Thanks you so much, i did it ^^

 

you can use any system information tool, e.g hardwaremonitor or hwinfo to check hardware detail.

 

I would guess the SM951/PM951 nvme

 

Anyway to be sure? I want to buy one but not with slower SSDs.

My other option is to buy the 4K-225 model that includes the 2.5 inch HDD without the SSDs and add my own SSDs. However, I'm wondering if that model comes with the SSD heat sink cover and thermal pad that covers the SSDs?

 

I have the 017 model with 128gb nvme and it is a toshiba drive. So I'd say either a toshiba or Samsung will be in the 4K. I don't see them using a slower SSD in the more expensive models and a faster nvme in the cheaper ones. They're not Dell.

 

all come with pad and heatsink (or they should)

Not really sure about the ssd tbh, buying one is pretty much lottery nowadays

 

I want to be sure. I'll try asking one of the Authorized Resellers who customize systems and MSI themselves if necessary.