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    The Official MSI GT73VR Owners and Discussions Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 16, 2016.

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    Okay thanks again for clarifying DukeCLR
     
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  2. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    He has a phone number but he preferred customers to email him first before he calls customers to complete an order.
     
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    Good to know from an "insider" Kevin... :) Thank you
     
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    With a new laptop like this and top cooling as stock. its not worth it for NOW. once your temps goto 85-90s plus i think thats the time to repaste. i am playing 6-8hour sessions of gaming almost daily. no problems. just enjoy the laptop, while its new and works great as stock. you have 2 years warranty - no worries. the hassles of re-pasting and cost for little gains so far. wait for more people to repaste and time to see how you go...
     
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    SLI has been bad since it was invented....ex SLI user...the headaches to monitor another gpu and half the time its never used...this is the first time going single and loving it. less problems, works great.
     
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    Dang! So that's where the south bridge was hiding! I was thinking where the hell is our south bridge :D

    I wonder if you can calculate the parts up and see how much it costs to rebuild the laptop and sell it again?
     
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    agree with you, thermal grease re paste doesn't worth the effort, there will be no big drop in temps, what I didn't test is LM and best guess is if applied properly, 8 to 10 degree drop but still doubtful.

    after Grizzly kryo, cold boot temps are 28 and idle temps are 39 @ ambient temp 24 where with stock paste cold boot temps were 33 and idle temps 44 @ ambient 24 (plus or minus)

    something weird about temps are no matter what paste you try, both CPU / GPU temps will be same....right now idle temps are 37 / 37 where both fans RPM are 1200 max

    This is something I don't understand......
     
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  8. Kevin

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    Why use V-sync at all? That's the whole point of G-Sync, to not use V-sync and still not have tearing.
     
  9. DukeCLR

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    I thought that would limit your max FPS as opposed to using a frame cap, this way Gsync still work at the lower FPS, that was my understanding.
     
  10. The good German

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    Wow, that sucks. That's definitely not stereoscopic 3D settings. Sorry bro

    Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
     
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    Yes it does sound like it is coming from the left side. If it drives me nuts I will contact msi and have them send me a CPU fan. I thought maybe it was the 1 TB mechanical having an issue.

    So I downloaded msi afterburner and tried out kombuster to stress the GPU and CPU. I ran the CPU burner at 7 threads and the GPU stress (If I ran the cpu at 8 threads the GPU would only load to 40-60%) and in "turbo" mode the CPU hit 83C which I was surprised at, fans were not at max cooler boost mode though. GPU hit 63 and held steady. I'm very surprised at how loud the fans are! I had the laptop on the kitchen table and turned on the cooler boost and my cat, who was on the table, was freaked out for the next 6 hours. He kept creeping up to it, tail all poofed, hilarious when I would step behind him and clap and he would take off like laptop does in coolerboost mode.

    What is the best fan profile to use? I'm new to a powerful gaming laptop and 83C on the cpu in turbo mode was not cool with me....heh.. Should I lower the voltage or just use sport mode? Other than witcher 3 and skyrim SE modded to hell, nothing else I play currently will be very cpu intensive and I don't do any rendering or heavy CPU work but if the higher cpu clock makes an impact on skyrim and witcher 3 than I will lower the voltage (again no experience with this but I've seen it mentioned so many times for lowering temps)
     
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    CPU benchmarks temp 83 is normal but while gaming even in turbo mode, no way CPU temp reach this high......

    I get around same temp in prime95 benchmark but while gaming CPU temp barely touch 70 even in turbo mode....
     
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    you have a gtx 1080 or 1070? your signature is conflicting...u should run in sport mode, still happens, time for rma...

    what i found also was if your cpu set to 4.2ghz it will crash and also those green flickers....when i set to 4.1ghz no problems at 162+/305+ even 200/350 maxed out. thought it was gpu only, eventually it was cpu also the cause...

    reduce cpu OC to 4.0-4.1 ghz so that your gpu has room for extra speeds....

    trial and error testing...different games respond to different OCs
     
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    2 years warranty...after that we will see...i have those screens because of high cpu and gpu overclocks. our chimei screen runs very warm if you touch the msi/horizontal bezel...gtx 1070/ gtx 1080 150-200w -its alot of heat. this chimei panel running 120hz/5ms maxed out. i tried to overclock to 125-130hz will give u those screen defects. so its at its limits...time will tell....

    60/75hz ips panels usually have some OC leverage like 60 to 75/80. or 75 to 100hz....not these babies....parts starting to appear on ebay as well lol

    nvidia,chimei,g-sync cert might also have issues with it....
     
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    his gpu seems to be dying.....green flashes of artifacts....
     
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    Those artifact seem like a bad VRAM chip, yeah?
     
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  17. kennyman

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    install true color and try it out. for me is game mode is best at highest brightness. if u don't like it then uninstall it. depends on your panel. some people can use custom icc profiles, like me i can't use those, just doesn't suit right for my eyes. also depends on your 20/20 vision :)
     
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    Isn't that a good thing? both running same temps. same rpm speeds. the whole system is in sync and working well.

    play some games and see how they are...mine cpu temp/rpm is usually lower than gpu. it also depends on certain games. note dx11 and dx12 which is cpu intensive....

    also maybe something to do with "BD PROCHOT stands for bi-directional prochot" search for throttlestop. or could be EC settings....anyways i have mine on custom fan settings and try to use the fans that matches the temps. but doesn't always work out...the left fan is usually lower than the right fan. for obvious reasons....depends on OC settings too...

    now that i know where the south-bridge is....was hoping to slap on some thermal pads/copper shims to try to make our PCH temps go down....right now our chipset temps is always high...what are your pch readings after the cpu respasted with kryo? did the pch temps go down aswell or not affected?

    the PCH temps is always in high 70s at idle....i know it can handle high temps and doesn't really matter...but still would want to be able to reduce overall motherboard temps like in the AW 17 repasted with LM, they have it down really good at 20/30C
     
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  20. Fridgeboy

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    Ok that is good to know, I was worried it would be 80+C while gaming and the fans would be insanely loud.

    What is the best fan profile to use?
     
  21. DukeCLR

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    this is my CPU profile, and I don't have temps aboe 80 while gaming. CPUfanbf1.jpg
     
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    Yeah too high OC on the vrams also....if i push mine hard i sometimes get light flashes of green lines, very rare...6 hour game maybe 1-2-3 times.

    Will test GTA 5...cpu finally perfected at 4.1ghz - now to see gpu OC that wont kill the card in the long run....
     
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    how come your CPU has 6 even points of variation??

    mine is only 5 and has a large gap in the middle??

    Screenshot (4).png
     
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    Oh there is a new SCM version out 13.016.12025
     
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  25. DukeCLR

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    I'm not changing a thing until I must. :bigwink:
     
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    seriously how u get 6 points for cpu?
     
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    That's just the way it has been,I have done nothing special. I just checked my profiles and bot the GPU and CPU have 6 steps.
     
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    I have both the GTX 1070 and the GTX 1080 model. The GTX 1070 model is great. I'm having issues with the GTX 1080 model. I tried using Sport mode and Turbo mode and I had the same results. I contacted the seller and they suggested me to contact MSI to solve the issue. I already request a return to Amazon for refund.
     
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    I have the same issue with my GTX 1070 model. The missing bar is above the first bar. I opened a ticket with MSI and they told me to wait for a Dragon Center update. It's been over 2 months since I opened the ticket and nothing.
     
  30. Maineiac12

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    There was a dragon center update a few weeks ago. Have you tried it?
     
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    Really depends if you're having heat issues or have abnormal heat spikes in which a reseating would help. On my GT72 Dominator I changed the paste last winter and thought that my 6820HK was a poor OCer bc of the temps so I kept it at 3.7GHz daily as well as my GPU temps not up to par. Fast forward did another repasted/resink and boom temps were in 30s idle, never went above 75C on 4.0-4.1GHz and I was like dang man I've been missing out, and this was on a rushed job using MX-4 paste.

    Now with my GT73VR I'm seeing mid 30s-40s on idle but not too bad on load so I'll give it a few before I take it apart lol. Does 4.0GHz nicely so I'll keep it at that before I manually bench voltages.
     
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    As the newer laptops release from MSI, go to their download areas to pick up the newest versions of MSI apps :)
     
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    Which download area was it in? Link to the specific download? Sometimes different regions update at a different pace.
     
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    I have problem with GTA V game crash "ERR_GFX_D3D_INT" when i choose mode comfort or higher, so i must diminished Eco mode and game working normal. I want enjoy GTA V with high performance but alway error "ERR_GFX_D3D_INT". Please help me :(
     
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    It's been around for a couple of years, but the recent Dec 2016 update caused it again for some.

    Here's a recent video, he covers the various install locations, but really comes down to moving/removing two program files in the GTAV install directory -> GTAV and PlayGTAV -> then run GTAVLauncher (don't delete this!!), and it will download updated files and should work.



    If that doesn't fix it... there are a lot of other videos going back a couple of years, find the "era" of fix that works for your current install :)
    https://www.youtube.com/results?q=err_gfx_d3d_init+gta+5+fix&sp=CAI%3D
     
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    How often should the battery be charging up to full? Mine seems to fall to 90% every 2-3 days and then charges back up. I leave it plugged in all the time. Is that normal?
     
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    I just updated my DC also and I only have 5 points. Just has a large blank spot for the middle.

    I've noticed some people remove DC altogether as they said it bogs down the system and/or was glitchy.
     
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    It's got settings, so defaults might not be what you want, I'd surf through the settings with a theme in mind. Like Highest Performance, Balanced Performance, Power Saving. Or, Loud and Cool, or Quiet and "Hot".

    There are 2 settings that are the source of the "bogged down" thought, the 2 XBoost "Performance enhancements" which may have given better performance under load, but while idle ran like crazy to "sort things out", so it's best just to turn them off - which they are by default as of a couple of versions ago.
    msi dragon center turn off both xboost options storage and usb.JPG

    I like running the OC tuning myself - uninstall Dragon Center and install XTU or TS and Afterburner or another GPU tuner, and manually picking the Windows power setting and other settings, rather than let an app do it, but I think the latest DC's offer tuning that you can take advantage of to set up profiles for use.

    At least make sure those Xboost settings are off, and then go through and set up profiles and custom fan tuning, spend some time getting it to work as you like, it's worth it in the long run to manually verify everything to make sure know what's what, and so later on new releases you know what's new and changed.
     
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    I have the same issue as others are talking about, where my cpu in the dragon centre only shows 5 points (i am missing one bar/point of adjustment in the middle) is this a widespread issue?
     
  41. Shehary

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    yes, I've this issue too without any way to fix, tried all possible ways I think of even if installing silent fan tool will give you 5 bars same as dragon center.
     
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    @-=$tR|k3r=-

    can you please add or create poll to this thread for both GTX1070 / GTX1080 with issue of seeing green artifact / screen blinking while gaming / bench-marking with / without OC

    other points can be

    Green artifact / screen blinking if only OC Processor above 4.0
    Green artifact / screen blinking if only OC GPU (1070 or 1080)
    Green artifact / screen blinking if OC both CPU / GPU (1070 or 1080)
    Green artifact / screen blinking if OC GPU (1070 or 1080) Core Clock only
    Green artifact / screen blinking if OC GPU (1070 or 1080) Memory Clock (vram) only
     
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    IDK what happened to him, but he's not been around since early November:

    -=$tR|k3r=- was last seen: Nov 7, 2016
     
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    Pull up GPU-Z and check what ram you're using.
     
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    GT73VR Keyboard spare New

    Note: changing or replacing the keyboard is not easy, you have to break the locks that holding the keyboard with top panel.....

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    Yes, its part of its battery management.

    Looks like I wont bother then, its not worth it for a slight lighting defect.
     
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    FWIW, I'm using DC version 2.1611.0901 but the fan setting were carried over from the original version, I'm not sure if that's why its different.
     
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    I knew that but when I first got the laptop it would go much longer before hitting 90% so I was just curious how often other people's charge cycles were happening.
     
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    it more depend how long you use the laptop daily, my daily use is above 10 hours and the span is max 4 or 5 days from 100% to 90% and battery start charging....today laptop battery is on 90% so I will see when next time it will start charging again and how does the 10% will last if I use laptop daily around 10 hours or above....

    laptop charger always plugged in power outlet...
     
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    Does windows downloading / running another major update...

    I'm seeing continuous Wi-Fi high activity since last 5 hours..... o_O
     
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