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I haven't seen it go below 90 when its plugged in, dropping to 90 would concern me. Does the battery drain if you unplug the PSU from the laptop? It would be interesting to see.

 

obvious battery will drain if PSU unplugged and if plugged never go below 90%

I only see battery drain when ran battery calibration first time with PSU plugged, whole process took an hour and next calibration due in Feb I think...

Did you guys ran the battery calibration.....right....?

 

I had issues like that yesterday and when I shut down around 0100 Eastern time, the option was "update and shutdown"

 

yeah I think from the list, one last is left, I just checked the update status and one update is missing from the list...damn windows...update and update...

 

Yes it does drain when unplugged but slowly. I started noticing this power drain more when I got CIV 6 for Christmas.

I have the 1070 model. Could it be that this model has "hybrid power" and the 230w adapter isn't enough so the laptop is pulling juice from my battery when I'm taxing the system?

 

That's what I've heard. Very disappointing since 330W adapters are readily available and not much cheaper/lighter.

 

I wonder if I could purchase the 330w if it would make a difference?

Or I could exchange my laptop for the 1080 model while it's on sale... LOL

 

Is the plug for the 330W the same?

 

Same version I have but I only have 5 options for CPU too. I think there's some witchcraft going on.

 

it's not easy to play games using laptop keyboard, half palm of hand touch the touch pad....have to disable the touch pad.....touch pad should be on more right side or must have on the fly disable button.....will stick to external keyboard....

 

I have always had to play on both a laptop and a desktop so years ago I decided to get a Belkin n52 over the years the product has changed and the latest version is called the Orbweaver, I program it so that all my key maps are the same and regardless of what machine I'm playing on the inputs are identical.

 

Yes, it's the same plug.

 

Would buying the 330W and using that on the 1070 harm the 1070 version in any way?

 

At some point I will buy a second one, maybe a 330W woudl be OK ti use.

 

No, but it also won't help in any way.

 

Is there some firmware limitation that wouldn't allow the extra voltage? If you're already at the voltage limit of your power adapter wouldn't some extra juice maybe give a slightly better or more sustainable OC?

 

It's not voltage, it's a current limit. Both adapters should be around 19.5v.

 

Sorry. I said volts when I meant watts.

 

Then yes, there is a firmware limitation. In any case, as long as your 230W adapter isn't cutting out, a 330W will make no difference.

 

What do you guys think about MSI True Color? Yay or nay? I don't really have a calibrator on me

 

It's really kind of a personal preference. I think most people I've talked to will find a calibration setting that they like, but not everyone.

 

I uninstalled it and use an ICC profile someone made and posted in this thread.

This one.

 

Appreciate this, thanks! Will try it out after work.

Just an FYI for those who just got their units and think its faulty, update everything then check. When I first got my laptop it was bogged down and I thought I had a faulty GPU on top of that a messed up NVME drive since things were skipping and things didn't seem to save and whatnot. So if you can't do a clean install I would immediately uninstall Norton (you can use the remover tool as well). Get your windows anniversary update if you haven't already (the one that takes the longest), update your Intel RST and Chipset drivers. Update sound drivers and NVidia drivers etc... BIOS and firmware if you'd like or if you're having those specific issues. It seems like these are the "break in" processes one must take to have a smooth ride. I think this happened on my GT72 as well in the past. I just had to tweak it up to run like my desktop but before that it felt so bogged down, lagging, skipping, games trying to change resolution.

Run benchmarks, do stress tests, play games.. transfer files etc.. Monitor temperature and see that its not hitting abnormally, you'd want to stay below 80-90C.

Overall I'm liking the jump up from the GT72

 

Does any one know what thermal pad thickness I need I'm guessing 1.0


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Sounds about right.

 

Will that be good for the entire laptop .. like under head synch and all


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http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...cussions-lounge.794968/page-202#post-10427469

I would talk to @Shehary as he has added custom thermal pads on there already. I haven't changed the one on the GT73VR so not sure on that yet.

Thin ones like the ones for the nvme/ssd heatsink will probably need 1.0-1.5mm.. I would go with 1.5mm just to be sure.

The ones for the CPU/GPU I would say 1.5-2.0mm depending on which part. But yeah sorry not much help

 

OK I hope he see this I ordered all 1.0 oops

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Can you still change your order? I'm leaning toward 1.5mm.

 

They get dropped tomorrow I guss I can send back

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Does the newly launched kaby lake model produce more heat and have the fans running more frequently or louder?

 

With kaby lake theoretically you should have less heat output from the CPU.

 

@Cerreta28 @specialist7

Thermal pads used on HD Heatsink / CPU Heatsink / GPU Heatsink are 1.0mm thick.

3 strips of size 120 x 20 x 1.0mm are enough for both CPU / GPU and if applied properly (less waste) you can save more then half strip for future use...

I used minus 8 (8w) / phobya (7w) on GPU / CPU respectively.

Acrtic pad 1.5mm on heatsink 6w/mk

Reason I used 1.5mm is I have 2 pcie and 1 sata drive so 1mm pad had not very good contact with all drives and in pictures you can see the contact thermal pad has with drives, much better then 1.0mm

Precaution: If use 1.5mm, make sure you screw the heatsink evenly and in X direction or you may damage drive / drives...

Highly suggest to use minus 8 pads on both CPU / GPU, it's more flexible then phobya and higher conductivity and very minor price difference.

when using minus 8 pads, it's plan side stick with heatsink and texture side goes on chips....

width / length of thermal pad used on heat sink, you need 70mm x 74mm (W x L)

HD heatsink with arctic thermal pad 1.5mm


width of HD heatsink is 70mm


Length of HD heatsink is 80mm


Length of thermal pad is 74mm

 

If any one having high temperature (above 50, IMO above 50 is a problem) problem with SSDs

Change thermal pad as stock thermal pad is I think 1.3w or 1.5w where arctic thermal is 6w (you can use better with higher conductivity) so like 5 times better conductivity and fast heat transfer but changing the thermal pad only keeps the drive temp low if room ambient temp is low otherwise it won't be much of a help and you have to go for one for following option

1. Mod: Add additional fan on top of HD heatsink, you just have to find a fan with right thickness, length and width with 4 pin connectors (there is a spare fan connector on MB)
2. Buy a laptop cooler with 1 fan above 200mm size or 3 fans in triangles or 4 fans in plus shape with option to control the fan RPM, can use it to keep the drives temps at bay.
3. Personally using this option, Open Dragon center > go to System Tunner > Fan speed > Advanced and raise the first fan bars of both CPU / GPU to 27% > Save.

Idle the laptop fans spins at 1200RPM, by using option 3, idle fan speed will be 1600RPM (no fan noise) so fans will be pulling more air, will keep the CPU / GPU temps low as well as keep the SSDs cool too (Arcitc Thermal Applied)....under 50....even if drive temp go higher (under work load or huge data copying) will quickly bring the temp down.

 

Amazon might be clearing inventory to make room for the kaby lake models.

Single 1080 version is down to $2462.03

They've got the product page for the kaby lake model up at $2699.

Specs are the same except kaby lake has cm238 chipset and a 256gb nvme compared to 128 on the skylake.

Edit - single 1070 model down to $1899!

 

if only amazon didn't charge tax to NY state

 

When you guys are planning to tear GT73 apart....?

 

Until I read your post I haven't looked at my idle temps, my Toshiba (stock) is at 44 and the Intel 600p is at 35, my PCH is at 55, I don't do a lot of data moving so it's probably not a big deal for me but it's interesting none the less. I'm using and identical SSD in my desktop build as a temporary solution and in several months I may toss that in the laptop and experiment with RAID, I'll replace the thermal at that time, cooler is better.

During my research of Z270 motherboards I ran across a video review of a MSI motherboard that had what they call m.2 shield, It turns out its just a small piece of aluminum with a thermal pad, one reviewer said it made the temp worse but I think he didn't peel the protective plastic off the pad. He had mentioned that newer M.2 SSDs don't have the thermal problems some earlier models had, He seemed the think it was a gimmick.

 

still waiting for one of our supplier to stock a 7RF model, apparently the 6RF is all stocked out due to not being produced anymore

 

you can use Hard Disk Sentinel tool to check the drive temp history, temperature history stored in S.M.A.R.T and can see which drive hit what temp max.....

my case, I have Toshiba OCZ 1TB M.2 which is the main reason all drive temps go higher (all drive sharing the thermal pad and heatsink) this drive tends to get hot even not in use.....no idea what it is trying to cook all the time....

PCH is at 55 is good, mine idle 52 but then according to room ambient temp goes up to 63 idle....never bother to check how high it goes.......

what about these temp sensors in HW Monitor, no information in HWInfo64 about these sensros



any body....any idea.....?

 

desperately waiting...specially wana see how LM perform on this machine....

You defiantly read this whole thread and all users experience, do you think is ther room for perfection in GT73....?

 

with that much space inside the laptop I think the only thing missing is a liquid cooler

the empty mxm slot seems to be a perfect candidate for housing the pump



haven't gotten my hand on an actual machine though, so :|

 

What suppliers do you use? Newegg has stock and just started shipping them this week.

 

it will be a hard mod to put water cooler in this laptop but the direction laptop (after pascal more like desktop) are going, laptop of Asus with external water cooler, Acer Predator 21x with 21" curve and Razer Valerie with 3 displays, it's just matter of time, we will see (internally) water cooled laptops.....

 

Has any one had the issue where the keyboard lights won't change color ..


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The only time I experienced was when I did a Windows reset and the driver with windows was running it, when i installed SCM the problem went away.

 

Hmm I wonder if I should uninstall it all and redo it


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Sound like an easy shot.

 

Its normal the price 3600€ , for the model " 6RF " ( 4K Panel , 512GB SSD , 32GB RAM ) ?

In Spain its too expensive

 

really, you call that expensive, in my country the base model GT73VR 6RF (GTX1080 + 16GB + 128GB + 120hz FHD) with all custom clearance / import duty and taxes cost equal to $4200...that's called too expensive....

If you have a friend / family member living in USA / UK, can ask them to bring one for you...that's what I did and still the laptop will be covered in warranty (One year International Warranty)