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Anyone running a 2k [2560x1440] non ultra wide monitor with the 73VR titan [gtx1080]? I ordered the predator xb1, 27" and I'm curious if it can even hit above 100 fps at 100% resolution scale, all ultra in BF1?

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Yes you can. I have the Asus PG279Q which is basically the same monitor and I'm pulling 90-120fps on ultra in BF1 and 110-130 FPS in overwatch on "sport". If I kick on the "turbo" I'm sure I could squeeze out some more.

Just make sure to get a good mDP to DP cable because you need to use DisplayPort to take advantage of the high refresh rates.

 

I have the best of both worlds . i have `120hz GTR73 7RF and a 32in 4k Gsync predator .. its stunning . my laptop in none sli games keeps up with my min rig .

 

Hi spoonjaffa,

I have the exact same GT73VR as you and i also purchased it in the UK. I see you mentioned the following in your video description on youtube:

"From day one of this new gaming laptop (MSI GT73VR) the fans will start to chirp and even exhibit at high pitch whine around 2000rpm".

I too have been having this problem with mine from day one. However, only the CPU fan (left side fan as you look at the screen) on mine starts to chirp at 2000rpm. My GPU fan is fine thankfully and certainly doesn't make the high pitch whine that yours emits in the video. Even my CPU fan doesn't sound as bad as yours.

They are definitely faulty and need replacing. No way MSI can argue with you on that.

Such a shame after spending so much on an otherwise awesome notebook, esp when it is an out of the box issue. Doesn't say much for MSI's quality control. From what i have read it is quite a common problem.

Like you, i have been meaning to get round to contacting MSI on the matter for awhile now and was hoping it would be a simple case of them sending me a new replacement fan for the CPU to solve the issue. I am sorry to hear they no longer do that. Sending it away to be repaired is a right pain.

Fingers crossed they send you out new replacement fans and please keep us informed on how the issue is resolved for you.

 

I feel bad four you guys, I don't know if you have a way to publicly rate theses machines in the UK but here I would describe not only the faulty fans on Newegg and Amazon but I would describe the lousy option of sending in your laptop as well, after spending as much as we do on theses lapotops having to got through a long RMA is unacceptable IMHO.

Good luck.

 

The manual should have such details, download it here:
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/support/GT73VR-7RE-TITAN.html#down-manual

Typically the charging port is the Right Front USB port.

Update with info from manual:

Page 2-9 Rear Side View - middle of the rear panel
5. Thunderbolt (Type-C)(optional)
Thunderbolt™ 3 supports up to 40Gbps data rate, dual 4K displays monitor
output, USB3.1 connection, and portable charging power up to 5V/3A.

It's odd there is no call out in the manual for an always on USB 3.0 port for power.

I suppose we only really need one port, but why not have 2 by keeping the previous always on USB 3.0 port too?

 

USB Type-C in the back? jwhich is the same as Thunderbolt 3. It pushes out 3A so if you have a phone that supports it, it will charge fast. I had it on my GT72 and on the GT73VR and it puts my phone to rapid charging.

 

http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/378.49/378.49-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe

http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/378.49/378.49-desktop-win8-win7-64bit-international-whql.exe

http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/378.49/378.49-win10-win8-win7-desktop-release-notes.pdf

 

well my GT73 arrives soon today. Are the chirping fans still an issue? Is it widespread? Also, many of these notebooks these days are known for insane backlight bleed issues, how is the MSI panel housing? I wont have the option to return this thing since I am leaving the states for a work trip so I am hoping I get a good unit.

 

Mine doesn't make any chirping fan sounds mine was sent out in December... No "insane" blacklight bleed.. just a small amount on the bottom for mine.. hardly noticable and not complaining about it.

The laptop itself is pretty sturdy but I use it more for a desktop replacement for when im on the go (living overseas atm). It is a beefier laptop compared to the GT72

 

Yes, the chirping CPU fan is a widespread issue.
They have a little backlight bleeding at the bottom. But I would say, it's better than with most other displays of this kind and you won't notice it under normal usage.

 

nVIDIA GeForce Driver updated to v378.49

 

Well that's concerning! I would think backlight bleed and chirping is something they would omit for 3000 USD

 

That's what I expected, when I bought mine. But today (2,5 months later) I can count three additional issues:
- coil whine
- loose display bezel
- pulsing GPU fan

I wrote an E-Mail to the shop today, because the repair times at MSI Europe are at 3-4 weeks atm. I need the machine for work, so I cannot wait that long. I have to say I'm not very hopeful, that it helps something, but let's see, what they will write back.

 

What controls the GPU throttle temp?

I've had a couple different versions of the GT73VR and my 6RE with October build date and .107 EC seemed to try and keep the GPU at 77/78c and my 7RF with November build date and .108 EC did the same thing.

However, my 6RF with August build date and .105 EC doesn't kick in the fans until 84c and tries to hold the GPU there. This obviously results in lower fan speeds/noise but could it possibly be worse performance?

Is it the vbios or EC that controls those things?

I'm hesitant to update the EC because this thing does run quiet and I have great CPU temps with no odd fan noises. I know there's some issues with people losing fan control and going to 5 temp points from 6 with the .107 EC.

 

Out of interest what component is causing coil whine? I've been reading and seen Alienware 17 r4 kabylake update has sorted the cpu high temps by better heatsink application. Maybe worth at swapping over? Just my current thoughts. The onsite warranty is looking quite attractive now. Sorry MSI. Not happy especially as my previous gaming laptops have been Alienware. For close to £3k I don't expect to have to pay for replacement fans or be without a working laptop for over a month!
I'm awaiting a price for the replacement fans.

Edit: looks like Alienware support isn't the best going by several users reports of high cpu temps and return issues. Why can't we get an open laptop motherboard standard, build our own gaming laptops.

 

I got mine gt73 7re on sunday. So far didnt notice any problems and didnt see any backlight bleed but didnt stress it out much yet

 

I don't know, something on the motherboard. It comes from the area, where the T key is.

 

Coil-whine is caused by VRM/MOSFET.

 

I have 6RF August build with .105 EC and agree that GPU fan doesn't kick in @82 that I remember, I updated the EC to .106 and same behavior as .105 latter updated to EC .107 and lost CPU one bar in advanced fan control option and but fan kicks in more quickly as compare to last 2 EC firmware, now on .108 and man I can tell you, last night was playing COD Infinity warfare and multiple time I have to check to sure that even GPU fan running or not (Auto Fans / sport mode), GPU temps below 70 and fans kick in more quickly when temps go above 70 and slow down instantly when temps lower 70, I don't know it's re paste or what but I m not seeing high temps on both CPU / GPU since I updated to .108 and also not using advance fan option, mostly auto fans and barely see the GPU touch 75 mostly stays under 70 also using nvidia driver released for 7RF....so may be it's drivers....i m not sure....

EC for sure does control fan speed according to temps, speed breaking points, at what temp what will be the speed and I think CPU / GPU sensors which monitor the temps and feed those temps to EC firmware so the fans kicks in when needed....

no company can check thousands of fans before installing them in laptop specially when no batch written on fans and no idea which production unit is making the faulty fans...hey hell I can't check all fans before putting them in laptop even if MSI pay me to do so.....

slight screen bleed is normal and said by MSI too something like "All MSI laptop has some level of light bleed"

 

Just an FYI - there's a new intel SSD toolbox that includes a firmware update for the 600p. It fixed my issues with hwinfo64.

 

@hmscott told me not to update the BIOS/EC firmware on my GT73VR 7RF unless I am facing issues as later EC Firmwares/BIOS may bring in new problems, is there a way to save the current BIOS/EC firmware as MSI doesn't offer the old BIOS versions?

 

Thanks.

I have yet to update my BIOS/EC, If there is a way to save it I would like to learn how before I do.

 

@hmscott said that MSI does provide the old Drivers / Bios / EC via Support, just need to ask them politely and also provide the instruction which I haven't found online yet and you can't just simply revert back to old BIOS / EC

I suggest, instead doing own hassle of taking backups, contact MSI support and ask them for old BIOS / EC firmware, once you get it, go with the update option....

 

@Phoenix @DukeCLR

There are 2 tools which can be used to take backup of BIOS (not sure they work for EC firmware or not) and I haven't tested these tools....

Tools location in the video description....

 

Thanks a lot, btw how you dig up this very old post......

 

Internet Magic!

 

I was looking for an older post that I remembered seeing where @DukeCLR posted his custom fan curves and I happened across yours about the 600p. Oh, and I'm also your stalker.

 

So you're still on EC .105? How are your temps and fan noise when playing demanding games like BF1 or Overwatch?

 

I went from EC 105 to 107 a month or so ago. I could barely hear the fans playing DOOM on turbo on 105. After updating to 107, the GPU fan was going to 3000 rpm and was very noticeable. The temps stayed in the 60's though. I backed the top 2 speeds down to 58% and 50%. Now the rpm is about 2500 and temps about 70. Also, after going to 107, sometimes I hear a low humming sort of noise at low rpm's for the CPU. It's not loud and only intermittent but I do notice it.

 

HIDevolution tried installing 3000 MHz. RAM in my GT73VR and it only runs at 2400 MHz on XMP Profile 1 and 2

They then tried 2800 MHz. RAM and it also runs only at 2400 MHz

what to do?

someone here said that 2800 MHz. RAM should be fine but how to make it run @ the rated speed

 

may be this sound weird, I have Kingston Hyper X and it's 2400Mhz but in some cases while gaming I notice (Hwinfo64) that Ram speed and latency change from 1200 to 1300 and 17 to 15 by itself, looks like the ram is overclocking itself....this auto overclock feature mentioned in Hyper X

Did HIDevolution tried to change the ram speed in BIOS Advance Tab....?

 

yes they did

they now tested the 2666 MHz RAM and it worked at 2666 MHz

 

@Atma @Maineiac12

Why don't you guys try this nvidia driver and see the difference in temps.....

I tried new nvidia driver 378.49 today and I tested the GPU temps (auto fans, .108EC) while in game menu (which has lots of storm effect, moving things,moving characters and fire effects) GPU temps goes to 77 just in menu, haven't started the game...

reverted back to 376.39 and in same game menu GPU temps max 68 degree....

I stopped using the nvidia driver since I got my hands on 376.39 and I m happy...happy....happy.....

 

strange how can a driver impact heat so much

 

I was going to try .49 today but I've had 4 or 5 BSOD's today from IRQL and Memory Management errors. I ran Window's SFC Scanner and Memory Diagnostic Tool and they found no problem (thank God it wasn't the ram). I've been wanting to redo my raid anyway so I think I'll do that tomorrow and reinstall windows .. again. Then maybe I'll try .39.

 

and I'm really tempted to try your EC 108. I don't know why MSI still has 107 for the 6RE.

 

My temps have gotten as high as 80 in a warm hotel room once, usually they are in the 70s with what I consider reasonable fan noise. I can double check the EC version the next time I unpack it.

 

hmmm, again with 2400MHz and in BIOS I have option of 2133 and 2400 so if HIDevolution tried 2800, then in bios they should have the option 2666 too...it's not like they put a ram with speed 2666 and then they get the option to select the right speed....kind of lost here...may be this GT73 is brand conscious and only likes kingston.....

because 376.39 made by MSI specifically for GT73 series and nvidia made general drivers (which mostly game ready with no other big changes or fixes) which only gives users to get more out of cards, I remember someone ran fire strike test and have better score with MSI stock drivers as compare to nvidia drivers....I also personally tested both MSI & Nvidia drivers on fire strike benchmark and get more score with MSI drivers....and temps difference are up there.....

you can try that but there will be no going back to .107.....but you can redo the same EC versoin installation again (personally tested it with .107 thought re installing might fix the missing bar in CPU fan curve)...so in case if .108 comes out for 6RE you will be good...no worries some crazy peoples are here to test things before hand.....

First try the MSI driver and see if it makes the difference in temp....

MSI is just too lazy to fix things or may be they are working on something better....

 

I'll stick to the MSI Drivers then

thanks for this info

 

You can't be on Msi graphics drivers for ever And Yeah, we talk about Nvidia here Expect different behavior from each new drivers pushed out from the Green morons. And don't expect better from The Redmond Morons driver updates

 

I wonder if that is why I don't have that low humming noise on this machine. The first 2 machines came with .107 and .108 out of the box. Maybe something in the EC is causing the noise.

 

Thanks! Are you using auto fans or the custom curve you posted a hundred pages back?

 

so am i missing it or is there no way to turn off the mousepad when using a mouse. not seeing the setting anywhere. On every other laptop even the gt72s i just traded in had the option in the synaptics program . Yet this one does not.

 

I may have upped the CPU curve a bit, I'll post it sometime tomorrow.

Try Fn = F3

 

Thanks! Is your GPU curve the same as well?

 

Hi guys. I just bought a GT73VR but I'm having what may or may not be a problem. My cpu temp in dragon centre is moving between 68 and 74 degrees C. I'm currently just browsing the net while Windows is downloading a 4GB update. Haven't closed any start up programs. Should also mention the temperature here is about 25 C (Australia).

Am I worrying for no reason?

 

windows not just downloading the updates, it also installing the updates too

no need to worry...once update / installation is done, CPU temp will be back to normal.....

 

It's a new laptop, new CPU, new motherboard chipset, so there are likely going to be a few BIOS updates over time, but I would wait until things settle down to a "final" BIOS update - unless the update description on one or more of them have a fix that applies to you directly.

Over time I have noticed that sometimes interim fix BIOS's can bring more problems than they fix, including reducing maximum bin for OC and reduced performance.

If your laptop is running great, performing great, and you've got no glitches that match the new BIOS versions after your's, then there's no pressing need to update.

I wouldn't bother MSI asking for a copy of the shipping BIOS individually - I'd ask that they post it online for download for everyone. MSI usually has the shipping version online, but I guess not this time.

Just enjoy your laptop, and let MSI work out all the little niggles with the BIOS, once it hasn't updated for 3 months or so, that's the time to start thinking about it.

By then others will have tried it and posted their comments and you can then decide whether to update to it or not.

 

Anybody tried HD Docking Station with GT73...?

Any idea which docking station is best...there are so many to choose from....