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Yup, perfect your technique on non-conductive pastes, get a good handle on application vs. results, and then do a lot of research on LM before trying on something you don't mind losing, etc.

Graduate to LM on a laptop when you *know* you are ready, then wait a couple of weeks before actually doing it

 

I have done a lot of repaste jobs... on a lot of different pcs...I think I can handle LM.

Thats are the temps I get after a week ...

 

But I got those just after repasting, what is the problem? I´ve never had this issue before!

Edit: My gpu temps are just great!

 

Would you mind posting a screenshot of hwinfo64 after running OCCT for at least 30 minutes?

Thanks.

 

Not at all, Overclocking? Or Sport mode? Can I use aida64 instead?

 

paste dried out, pull the HS and see by yourself....had kind of same issue with ICD, GT73 HS doesn't like lower thermal conductivity thermal pastes such as MX4, ICD, Hydro....try Kryo...or if LM....go with Conductonaut, it's way better than CL Ultra....

 

I think you are right, I´m running aida64 stability test and it´s crazy, look at what i´m getting, 14 degrees!

 

I don't understand what you are trying to show me, what is the result from stock paste to Hydronaut? Lower?

These temps look good, but without knowing what you are running to get them, I can't really tell.

Try using hwinfo64 and turn on logging, say every 2 seconds, so you can run a benchmark, or a gaming session, and watch the CPU / GPU utilization sync'd up with temperature readings. That's the best way to tell what's going on.

I don't see any thermal throttling, so either you are running full fans - which is good - or you didn't run something that taxed the CPU much. If you do run a high CPU usage app, the fan curve usually takes a few seconds to wind up to cool completely - and thermal throttling can be hit during that time.

I'm not dissing your skillz, I'm just saying it's dangerous, and even experienced people ruin their laptop, so it's a real thing.

The problem is noone reports these kind of failures in the forums. I think I've seen 2 over the last couple of years that said their laptop stopped working - usually after reporting great temps and all that goes with it, then a week or two later they reported their laptops stopped working.

Most people are too shy or embarrassed to report the LM sourced failure, so we don't hear about it until the laptop comes back dead to the dealer or vendor. And, it's taken a while for those reports to come out publicly.

All it takes is a little drop of LM to get flicked onto the wrong connection, or a drip from the edge of the heatsink / CPU mating to migrate and flow into the wrong spot.

A few degree's of thermal improvement over the best non-conducting solution isn't worth it.

I guess if you are going to use LM in a sealed space, like a CPU IHS, and it's really sealed - glued shut so no LM can migrate, then it's probably safe.

I wish there was a dam technique for the edge of the heatplate / CPU mating that could be applied to make sure it never migrates.

Anyway, if you do use LM, please come back and let us know longer term how it works out

 

14 degree's core differential?

Try another test, like OCCT or prime95, make sure it's something that is running the same load on all 4 cores.

The paste couldn't have dried out that quickly and unless you didn't fasten the heatplate on effectively you shouldn't have that large of a core differential - 1/2 the paste didn't dry out and the other half didn't.

Your temps aren't high enough to cook off that paste

 

after seeing the last result snapshot, I was gona say same, he didn't tighten the screws or may be they get loose (very low chances)

looking at the snap shot result, screw 1 and 3 are loose or not tight enough....

on other hand, the paste can be dried out...in my case ICD dried out after 2 weeks....

 

If ICD dried out that quickly, then somehow an edge or more was exposed to air, and wicked the moisture out.

Again, there are lots of people that use ICD all the time without it drying out... so something must have been different.

His temp symptoms are like CLU too thin or uneven pressure / coverage on the application.

I'd try to reapply Hydronaut with a different technique, look for some examples of application that have been successful

 

Temps showing all four cores at your highest OC, whether it be 40x, 41x, 42x etc...

If you have HWiNFO64, that would be great. If not, Aida is fine.

Thanks!

 

Thank you everyone! Is there a way to post more than one image at a time? Here are the temps. I´ve run aida64 stability test, sport mode with fans in auto.

 

Here is the second image. I think I´m going to repaste and check if all the screws were tight, as suggested.

 

Your so right about them being all silent later. So many of them end up selling thier system or trying to get a refund, or trying to drop thier issue onto someone else, or they do not want anyone else to know about the failure. It's kind of funny. I will give my hint. STAY AWAY FROM LM.

If for whatever reason you think your pro, maybe you've been doing nitrogen pots with a team of 12 guys, sure try some LM on the GPU and CPU outside the IHS, but otherwise, don't.

If your going to use it, use it on the ISH on the inside, and make sure you follow the rule of less is sometimes more. Make sure there is NOT extra LM on the surface because it will bunt out your CPU and **** if it spreads and shorts out the stuff on the cpu.

 

Just repasted,screws were tight, but the paste...i dont know how to describe it, but it was weird. Temps look normal again...I guess I will have to wait ...Anywasy im doing another stress test and I will post the results! Thank you for all the help!

temps are about 54 degress on all cores with the same stress test, and fan is about 2400rpm. Quite nice, this PC is a beast! I will post updates, if it keeps like this, as it should, I wont use LM, dont need it

 

Before using LM I will try other solutions. At the moment I will just wait to see how it goes...

 

Yes and no.

The versions they release are the ones that popup on Windows Update which are already WHQL'd then they're packed up and uploaded. Same goes for Realtek drivers and such, they show up on Windows Update then are repacked and uploaded on the site. They're not always going to keep updating them updated as sometimes they're lazy to do so and/or they'll keep updating the "latest" or most popular model's support page. They will probably be more vendor specific if the cards were soldered on or have custom pcb/different display outputs. You can usually tell by how the .inf files are.. if it says "NVIDIA Geforce GTX 10xx" then it might use a generic 1070 driver. Usually both the "desktop" and "notebook" drivers from nVidia are highly identical.

 

exactly, the first day I used it it was good, next few days it just kept getting worse and worse until I went back to IC Diamond

HIDevolution installed Liquid Ultra on the CPU and IC Diamond using the X Cross method on the GPU. Max CPU temps are 75C in AIDA64 Extreme Stability/stress test

@Donald@HIDevolution

 

I have a syringe of Kryonat arriving today to help me get my desktop to 5.0, I'll let you know how it goes. After reading the last few pages I'm glad I resisted the urge to repaste the laptop. When summer comes I'm sure all you brave folks will have worked out the best solution and if a repaste is needed I'll be ready.

 

@nightingale

to have this in your system properties, system model, OEM logo for MSI, and clicking the support link will actually direct you to MSI's site to open a support ticket, and their number is there as well:

 

MSI Driver is an OEM Driver as nVIDIA doesn't have this version to download publicly 376.39

 

Call it whatever you like, just be sure and put "Nvidia" in front of it, because it's done by Nvidia, not MSI.

 

I know bro, just like how ASUS sometimes released driver versions that are not on the nVIDIA site

 

Hydronaut or Kryonaut or whatevernaut, Grizzly SUCKS!

 

Yeah, again even the number is within the Nvidia release series, done by Nvidia, developed for an OEM.

The OEM didn't contribute anything to Nvidia anything except - "hey we got a new GPU, can you please name it for us and develop for us a new driver that recognizes that name?"

The laptop maker is the recipient of the driver, they are not the developer, that's all Nvidia.

Nvidia probably has a contractual requirement for the vendor to not modify the driver or package provided by Nvidia.

That makes sense, right? You can't have vendors hacking up Nvidia drivers and putting them out in the wild, right? I mean, what if MSI picks a release number that conflicts with Alienware, or Asus, or Nvidia's release numbers?

It's all Nvidia

 

I suggest using imgur as the site's images don't always show

to put more than one image in a post

just enter them like this: (without the space in the first tag

[img ]your image URL from imgur[/img]

[img ]your image URL from imgur[/img]

[img ]your image URL from imgur[/img]

 

Are you getting those temps overclocking? My max now is 62 without overclock. 75 looks a little high for me

 

Subject: Fan high pitch noise / chirping
Hi All,

I guess in the last couple days I fell victim to the so famous fan chirping. high pitch sound. Was gaming for some 4 hours BF1 and noticed when removing my headset to go back to windows, the fan noise had something obnoxious in them. At first, I thought my ears were tricking me but now, a day later, I am certain of it. The CPU fan is worse then the GPU fan, much worse! I tested by setting the machine to comfort mode and ran each individual fan in 10 % increments up to max. I noticed, that:

GPU FAN:

• in: 2220rpm
• max:2300rpm
• out:2400rpm

CPU fan

• in:1500rpm
• max 2300rpm
• out: 2900rpm

Sound Spectrum is between 1600-1900HZ roughly so fairly high pitch.

I am a Power Electronics engineer and I know this sound from when you excite a double fed synchronous Generator with rotor current to establish a magnetic field. So either the motor coils from the fan are on the way out or the bearings are on the way out. This will only get worse. I guess anyone who had it RMA'ed to MSI.


An here my sys info:

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System Information
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Serial Number: 9S717A111202ZG8000274
Product Name: GT73VR 6RF
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Windows Product Key: 4JQ94
HDI Build: ZS7-17A1TM4-CS1 3.TC2.A28.21.0.1
BIOS Version: E17A1IMS.106
BIOS Release Date: 2016/07/28
EC Version: 17A1EMS1.1050727201617:14:41
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HK CPU @ 2.70GHz
Memory: 32 GB @ 1200 MHz
- 16 GB, DDR4-2400, Kingston MSI24D4S7D8MB-16
- 16 GB, DDR4-2400, Kingston MSI24D4S7D8MB-16
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080, 8192 MB
VBIOS Version: 86.04.2b.00.1b,8388608
Drive: SSD, SAMSUNG MZVPV512HDGL-00000, 476.94 GB
Drive: SSD, MKNSSDRE1TB, 931.51 GB
Network: Killer Wireless-n/a/ac 1535 Wireless Network Adapter
Network: Killer E2400 Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Network: Xbox Wireless Adapter for Windows


As stated, I did not have this since owning the device (approx 1.5 month) I did some 25 hour gaming on it during this time.

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always overclocked to 4.6 GHz but everyday the temps would rise more

 

It is perhaps an idea that you hook up the same numbers check boxes in Aida64 stress test for more consistency in your tests

 

Ok, if it´s overclocked the temps are good.

I´m checking the forst three options, stress cpu, fpu and cache.

The temps of my gpu are perfect, I didn´t have the same problem...they stay similar to last week

 

Yeah I have seen it, but not in your first tests

 

A desktop CPU in a GT73VR? How? LOL

 

dude I don't have my MSI laptop yet, I just did this on my Clevo P870DM3 as an example

 

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Dream come true???hahahahah

 

Yeah, only a dream And overclocking doesn't stop on 46x

 

If i can get mine to 4.6 ill be very happy!!! I´ll wait for iunlock and his magic!

 

Why wait? Kaby lake, even the BGA chips should easily run 46x with stock voltage (7700K can manage 50x with stock voltage). Or is this new soldered Kaby i7 chips equal the low binned previous 6820hk? @Phoenix

 

I have a 7820HK, why did you downgrade me to a 6820HK. j00 are not my friend?

PS: Pls check my sig before accusing me of downgraded CPUs

 

Sorry my good friend Hope we can still be good friends although you went the wrong path You miss reading my post. Try one more time

 

@Prema @Mr. Fox @bloodhawk

 

Tag as well our good friend @Mr. Fox

 

Looks like we should all be using 378.49 then, that's a huge performance increase.

Thanks for testing it.

 

Careful there, new post from the nVIDIA Forums

 

I can't figure out why but I've been trying to play SC2 and for some reason in game the screen flickers periodically and I lose sound after the first flicker. I have the 6820k/1070GTX plugged into my TV (1080p) and all setting at max (It's starcraft 2...) and maybe it is because in the nVidia settings I set everything to max but once I create a game and I start playing SC2 the screen goes black, drops connection to my TV, screen comes back, I'm still in game but now with no sound and play just fine, no lag or anything and every so often (varies from 30s-4m) it flickers again. Sorry for the long run on lol.

Once the sound goes out on the first flicker it doesn't come back until I restart the computer. I do not understand what the heck is going on. This game shouldn't be kicking this things ass on sport or turbo mode. GE experience wants me to run in 4K DSR scaled down even with everything maxed even. I've been playing diablo 3 for the last 2 weeks with no issues, system barely works, I tried a test run om witcher 3 a few weeks ago and played with all settings max in game (1080P) for about 30 min and no problems.

I can't tell you the fps or anything, I use afterburner/riva tuner for data and for some reason in 64 bit mode I can't run riva tuner in SC2, yet it worked before on my asus G75VW about a month ago. Stealth mode and detection mode with riva tuner do not work with SC2. BUT if I change it to 32 bit launcher, the game will start with riva tuner. Very weird and I really hope my 1070 isn't pooched.

EDIT: I tried again with low settings and upon creating a game the screen went black and came back 2 times within the first 5 minutes but I didn't lose sound until the 3rd flicker which happened about 8 minutes after. I cranked it back up to "extreme" settings and turned on turbo in dragon center and no flicker for at least 5-10 minutes, highest temps was 60 GPU and 60 CPU. My video driver is up to date and reinstalled msi dragon center because it was crashing after playing sc2. After the reinstallation of DC I tried SC2 again but same results, the black flickering and dropping hdmi connection (which returns after 1-2 seconds without sound) still occurs randomly regardless of graphic setting or temps. Sound will not play through TV still after it drops (this time on the 3rd black flicker instead of the first) until I restart the computer, plugging and unplugging hdmi without restarting does not return the sound.

On a side not I thought maybe my 1070 was having a problem so I ran the witcher 3 at max everything and on turbo mode for 25min, CPU hit 72-74 and GPU held at 65. No flickering or problmes what so ever, help steady at 60fps. Dropping the overclock to sport mode dropped cpu temps to 60-62 and GPU to 60-62 and no fps loss. So I am stumped as to why SC2 is having the entire screen flicker that kills my sound.

 

Never had that problem so far.






Those are the clocks for idle/2D and when a program/browser uses hardware acceleration it should up a little as well. Then the 3D clocks should kick in when playing a game, there are some cases when a game not fully optimized will be detect as a regular program and thus not being able to use full clocks or the card stays in idle mode. If I was him I would test it all out on this driver first then test it again with a previous driver before concluding that the latest one does that for everyone.

 

did anyone of you have a similar issue or not issue with battery drain with Hybrid power?
my battery drain everytime to 89% and then reload to 100% regarding to the MSI Hybrid power FAQ from MSI it is not working corrctly for me.
But customer Support says that this drain is fine and normal after they contacting msi hq.

i Change my gt72S 6qe to the GT73VR 6RE Titan (msi trade in program) and now I'm a Little frustradet and i think about to sell this book. i'm really disappointed with msi.