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My understanding is that the battery is suppose to drain to around 90 then charge. Did you calibrate the battery yet? maybe that's why it going to%89. I'm not sure what FAQ you are referring to that says it's not normal, could you post a link? Are you experiencing any performance issues while the battery is charging?

 

That's the FAQ (for me) for the MSI Hybrid Power (NOS) function https://www.msi.com/faq/nb-684.html
Yes i calibrate it several times that was one of my thoguhts.

No but i have these drain and reload process takes 3-5 times during gaming session from 6-8 hrs and that's a Little to much for me.

 

I'm not sure you can turn it off, and to be honest I never notice the battery while I'm gaming so it's hard for me to give a comparison. I do know that I can game four hours and my performance/temps are rock solid. The only problem I had was when my battery was low and the machine would not provide full power to the CPU/GPU and it took a hit until it charged. Let us all know if you find a solution.

 

This feature may be why the MSI GT73VR can perform better than other laptops, it can pull more power during heavy load than the PSU can deliver.

At 330w there isn't a larger PSU available from MSI, so either MSI use's 2 PSU's like with the 1070/1080 SLI models, or MSI uses battery + AC power to augment during heavy load situations.

Most people don't notice, or don't care, or are happily impressed with the feature, but some people get all bent out of shape due to "battery wear".

IDK if it's anything to be worried about, but if it's really a problem for you plan to ask to have your battery swapped out near the end of your 2 year warranty - then you have 4 years at least of use supplied by MSI.

If you get another laptop, from someone other than MSI, and they don't use the battery for peak load use, your performance will be less than with your GT73VR, unless they supply a larger PSU.

Something to consider when purchasing a GT73VR, make sure you are ok with the NOS feature before purchase.

There are a lot of MSI models listed as using NOS, basically all of them?

What is the Hybrid Power (NOS) feature?
Latest Update: Fri, 24 Jun 2016
https://www.msi.com/faq/nb-684.html

List of most popular MSI FAQ's
https://us.msi.com/faq

 

I'd invest more on another 330w and the Y-adapter, rather than buying another battery down the road.

 

You would then have wasted all that $$$

MSI tune's it's power input so it wouldn't see that extra power available from the 2nd PSU.

MSI would need to update their firmware to allow for more power to be pulled in via the PSU's.

In fact the GT80S had this issue for the 980 SLI, a single 330w wasn't enough, so the NOS pulled power from the battery, taking full power usage out to 5-6 hours. People that gamed longer found their FPS drop enough to be very annoying. Adding a 2nd PSU was tried but didn't work.

The GT83VR SLI and GT73VR SLI use 2x PSU's, so their firmware allows for more power to be pulled in than a single PSU.

I wouldn't be surprised to see NOS working on those laptops too. Although IDK what kind of load would use up 2x 330w PSU's on the 1080 SLI, or even 2x 230w for the 1070 SLI, but I doubt MSI removed the code.

Anyway, no cheating allowed by MSI adding unplanned PSU's to the input power.

 

I wonder If I could use a 330W instead of my 230W and see a benefit.

 

There was a time with the GT80 series where you could use 2 x 330w and get some benefit.

The newer the laptop, the less likely MSI forgot to put the power input limit's in the firmware.

You could get an inexpensive wall wattmeter to watch usage with the 230w vs 330w and find out

 

I wonder how AW will handle it when they increase the power limit on their 17R4 1080 like they promised to do next month? They're using the same delta 330w adapter so will they draw from battery too?

 

I have a KillAWatt, Running Prime95 along with Furmark used about 228W. I posted several numbers back in the page 50 to 70 range. I do like to have a spare power brick, it makes packing and unpacking much easier, when I get around to if I'll price out a 330W and if it's not too much more then maybe I'll give that a try.

 

So the Battery boost ****y is still there in the firmware? Aka can't get rid of it even with 2x330W for single graphics?

The cancer is in fully work already. This before Dell's so called advertised TDP increase http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...4-owners-lounge.797457/page-323#post-10447828

 

Has anyone been experiencing weird problems with msi dragon center? I was playing around with SC2 again and this time when the screen went black and then came back I got an error saying I was low on memory and it suggested closing DC. After I closed it there was no more black screen flickering plus the fan speed dropped a bit (I'm assuming because there was no more access to the custom fan profiles I set in DC). I restarted DC during this same SC2 game, fans kicked up a bit when DC restarted, I selected turbo profile again and no problems there after. The low memory message error message was the first time I have seen this. I was wondering maybe I have bad memory, I will run memtest but I don't think there will be a problem because I restarted DC again and after the restart there was no more black screen flickering.

EDIT: Temps were 50GPU/54CPU

 

DC can act strangely, I found that it would go to some random settings after re booting. I found that if I select another mode and re select the mode I want it will re set and work fine. Some people have reported problems with USB boost and Storage boost, if you are using them try turning them off and see if that helps.

 

I was speculating that I doubt MSI took the time to remove the code, only bumped up the power allowed in from the PSU's to account for 2 x 330w PSU's, so the calculations would be for >660w power draw

IDK how much battery boost would help in that situation. Maybe someone can test their GT83VR 1080 SLI full OC on CPU and GPU's and see how much power they are pulling from the wall (both PSU's).

 

good to know, I just delivered the message I saw as a warning

 

I don't think that the NOS Mode is needed any more for the GTX 10series Cards.
Someone test what happen when the battery is not connected?

the next days i have a lot to do but i will try what will happen.

and I'm only worried about that the NOS is working with comfort and eco mode as well. and that is very strange.

 

Do you kown if hinges brackets screen are same like GT72(or system fixation) ? Cz many ppl broke it on GT72....

 

I tried and tried and never could track down what was causing my BSOD's, so today I did a clean install .. again. I could do this with my eyes closed now.

Once again, I have the same problem doing that instead of using the MSI restore.

Raid with MSI restore - https://s11.postimg.org/b14f25f1v/CD_Bench_Raid.jpg
Raid with Win clean install - https://s29.postimg.org/8z7knrzwn/Raid_Clean_Install.jpg

I just don't know what windows is missing. I installed all the drivers from MSI in the suggested order. If anyone has a clue, I would love to hear it.

On the bright side, no more BSOD's.

 

Did you try installing the manufacturer NVMe drivers?

 

This is why I always recommend keeping the original laptop OS build, even if you think you can recreate what the vendor put together for you, it doesn't always work out that way.

Good thing you made a boot recovery MSI BurnRecovery backup, some don't and are stuck with the problems like you experienced, or worse.

Not a single "clean install" has ever resulted in better performance than simply removing the unwanted software from the OEM Windows install. Lots have tried it and compared before / after benchmarks, only to find no difference.

Enjoy

 

I haven't made an MSI BurnRecovery backup. I know I should but what do you mean "some don't and are stuck with problems"?

 

There aren't any for the Samsung SM951 that I have been able to find unfortunately.

 

Like @Atma they have crashes or unexplained behavior, and re-installing vanilla Windows from Microsoft Media many times, only to find they can't quite duplicate the functionality or stability of the OEM install customized for their particular laptop.

I've seen owners return laptops because of this to get a new laptop that has the recovery partition so they can make a backup this time, and then run from the Windows out of the box - minus whatever apps they don't want.

Or they return their laptop and give up. Sad really.

Another choice is to send the laptop in on RMA to have the laptop maker install the OS and recovery partition again. Usually a 1 week turnaround, sometimes less.

If you are lucky there is a brick and mortar that has your model on display, and you can sneak in a 32GB Flash drive and get a copy from them.

It's always the first thing to do these days - make the restore recovery USB boot flash drive. BurnRecovery notification pops up when you first configure your laptop, and keeps nagging you until you tell it you did the backup.

Solves so many headaches to run the OEM OS install, and then just uninstall what you don't want to have running. But, make sure that what you are uninstalling is available to download in case you figure out later you do want to run it.

 

I had to use my recovery USB to make a Windows 10 installation drive, that wiped out the recovery on that drive but I still have to origonal ssd installed with the recovery on it. Is there a way to re-create the USB recovery? It seem like a good idea after the issues people are getting.

 

Yeah, that's another thing I usually mention, make sure you keep plenty of USB thumb drives around - buy a couple or a few of the 32GB sized the same as the restore recovery flash drive, because it's easy to get into a situation where you have to cannibalize the restore recovery.

If you have the original OS install to go along with the recovery drive, then put them back in the laptop - remove the other drives even if not involved as they can get wiped out should you test the restore - and then boot on the original drive to run BurnRecovery.

Someone a long time ago figured out how to install Windows + BurnRecovery on a fresh boot drive and then BurnRecovery was able to see and use the recovery partition found on the HDD.

So if you only have the HDD with the recovery partition, but don't have the original OS boot drive available, try that trick.

You might open a ticket with MSI, and explain you only have the Recovery partition HDD and lost the boot drive - how do or can you install Windows + BurnRecovery to use that recovery partition to use BurnRecovery to make another recovery boot flash drive.

Please let us know how you got it to work if you do

 

I couldn't stand my machine not running at peak performance so my MSI recovery is installing right now. I also redid the raid stripe back to 128 instead of 64. I think this is now about the 7th time I have reinstalled windows. I don't know why I'm laughing. To keep from crying I guess.

If I did another MSI restore usb after the damnable anniversary update installs, do you think it would work ok or would my raid speed go down again?

 

I'm glad my system doesn't have a raid installed on it. LOL

Can you really notice a difference between a single nvme vs nvme raid? These things are fast as hell solo...

 

Probably only in my mind. I think Raid 0 on mine reads about 1000 MB/s faster than a single drive.

 

I just slid the SSD over and boot from another SSD, The contents are intact although I did install a Steam game on there, I may just remove my current boot drive and try to boot form the one that came with he machine. I'm going to order a few USBs, I would like a Windows one and recovery ones for both my main rigs, I also remember reading about having another one with a bunch of handy stuff on it.

 

The restore partition is immutable - it's a fixed image of the OEM OS install, the "out of the box" OS.

Windows updates and installs you do aren't reflected in the recovery partition.

What I do is to use a Macrium Reflect image done after the long series of updates and installs done between the recovery image restore and where I feel I have things set up the way I like it.

The Macrium Reflect Free edition works fine, but I do recommend getting the paid for product, it's just so awesome and the support is great too.

You create a Macrium Flash Boot drive - 4GB is enough - and then put the restore image on another Flash drive or plain HDD USB drive.

So I have 3 boot flash drives, the original BurnRecovery flash drive (seldom used now) taped to the inside of my laptop box and stored safely, the Macrium Flash boot drive (used often as needed), and an MS Windows Install boot flash drive that I boot on to do OS Repair should I get a non-fixable chkdsk error or some such.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

You can make daily, weekly, randomly taken images of your boot drive for even more up to date restores. Whatever your work demands for work recovery would set the pace.

 

hello guys
I am new to MSI, just recieve gt73vr 7RF 10 days ago, 7820HK + 1080gtx
can you send me link to guide how to OC CPU and GPU ?

also will be happy with calibration help

 

double post

 

Try it, but I can't be sure it will work http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/samsung-sm961-nvme-driver.797206/

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/samsung-nvme-ssd-driver-download-v2-1.800337/#post-10432863

 

Thanks! Ill try that if the anniversary update ever finishes installing. Maybe next week.

 

HaHa, remember to disable all the trash who follow the Kids pastel colored tile Windoze

 

Starcraft 2 is buggy with this laptop. I haven´t been able to solve those problems, and believe me, I´ve tried. My brother, who has the same laptop, also has teh same problems

 

Can someone help me here please:

Chi Mei N173HHE-G32 no G-SYNC?

 

I uninstalled DC a while back and haven't looked back. I did try the newest one but I prefer OCing via BIOS instead of the app and the fact that Turbo always puts the Power Options to High Performance so you don't really get that nice idle clocks.

Can't say I tried DC with SC2 but I have played SC2 a bit last week without it just fine. Try uninstalling DC and play the game.. if it works just fine then you'll know the culprit.

 

Can you check if your nvidia control panel has GSYNC

Can you also check in your BIOS if you are in UEFI mode or legacy

 

Yes have G-Sync in nVidia control panel (out of the box)

yes in BIOS UEFI mode...

 

anybody who forget to take the OEM backup, can shoot me a PM, I have OEM backup online (6RF Model only not sure it will work with 6RE, 7RF or 7RE) can provide the link, you can download and restore the laptop to factory setting....all you need is 32 GB flash drive....

Note: to restore backup, you must have recovery partition on 1TB mechanical drive, if you format the drive or swapped it with another drive than you not able to restore the backup.....

 

GT73VR - FTW

#1 on 3DMark at 18412 (Fire Strike).

What's crazy is that the CPU is still a little wonky and not at its peak. The GPU is also not my best PR either. Once the CPU gets dialed in, with a GPU score of my PR of (25607) this could get really exciting...it already is...


http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11564906

 

GT73VR - FTW again...

#1 on 3DMark at 7334 (Time Spy).


http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1139500

 

GT74VR - FTW in the Graphics Department.

Here's the Validation showing the highest Graphics Score recorded of 25607. (Personal PR) It so happens to have beat out the highest recorded Graphics Score on a DTR which is 25243. (P870DM3)

I hear that MSI may release a similar laptop but with LGA? That will take care of some serious business, because the only thing keeping the GT73VR from sitting on top (overall score wise in 3DMark is the CPU limitation.


http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/17689969

@Mobius 1, @DeeX, @zergslayer69, @hmscott, @Papusan, @ThePerfectStorm

 

may be MSI also put GTX1080 Ti along with LGA and no one need to even think to upgrade for next 5 years......

 

but are you in RAID or AHCI mode ?

 

Incredible work @iunlock ! Awesome job. You are a legend.

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That would be amazing...and it would bring about a lot of change in the enthusiast segment. For the better...

Thanks mate. For the love of the sport. - Cheers

 

I think @Mr. Fox @Papusan and all the other LGA guys would love that.

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Guys why is it that when I enable Fast Boost in the BIOS, save and exit, then re-enter BIOS, Fast Boot goes back to disabled?