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i always enable GSYNC and VSYNC, I set VSYNC to FAST not just on

 

Flicker only in game menus / loading screens...

never while watching video / mid-game /mid-benchmark

 

I saw another video where fast wasn't better then having a frame limiter with Vsync off, some guy had a camera set up to record the input lag by using a led that lit up when the button was pressed and taking the time for the muzzle flash to appear. I can't seem to find it now.

 

These 2 things are kinda outside the box...

Do you have Display Scaling set to anything other than 100%? Try setting to 100% or no scaling.

Do you have ClearType enabled, and have you tuned it?

 

I never touch those settings

Display Scaling set to 100%

ClearType ia enabled but I never tuned...

 

I have nothing to offer about your external monitor but the Vsync issue is interesting, I just did a test and what I never realized is the fast sync doesn't limit your FPS, I assumed it did because i was capped at 120 when I tested it but it was actually the frame limiter I set up doing that. I'm going to try a full round with Gsync off Vsync fast on in NVCP and Vsync off in game. The game has a limit at 200 but Ill be just below that with my competitive settings.

 

sorry if I missed it but what nVIDIA driver are you using?

 

376.39, downloaded from MSI 7RF Support page....

 

Try this:

http://international.download.nvidi...top-notebook-win10-64bit-international.hf.exe

I recommend you use DDU to uninstall the previous driver in Safe mode, make sure you remove your Windows password before doing this otherwise the password may not work in Safe mode and you will be locked out forever

 

As a parallel discussion I'm just going to say the I think Vsync fast is the way to go. I just played 1/2 a round and I was able to end it 15/8 KD, and it felt like a whole different game. Check out the FPS on it, amazing.

On a side note, why does my temp spike at the end of a round and the game winds down? This also happens on my desktop.

 

Hi everyone. I have msi gt73vr and roccat kave 5.1 analog. When i plug roccat to the notebook there is no sound from the rear channel. I made all the settings in control panel and nahimic software. How do I connect KAVE to the notebook. Which jack will connect to where. And what is the software settings. Please help me.

 

I changed V-Sync to Fast and G-Sync enabled....Firestike showing warning

Your settings can affect your score
We recommend disabling G-SYNC before you run the benchmark.

Driver doesn't matter, only driver I didn't tried is this hotfix....mostly these drivers are game ready or game bug fix but nothing big change in core drivers....all I can get is more FPS (may be 15 to 20) and high stress on GPU and high GPU temp....

 

@Shehary These may be dumb questions but

• Does your external monitor support 120hz?
• Have you tried a different DisplayPort cable?
• Does the laptop screen work fine?

 

Running with unlimited FPS the GPU and CPU are going to be fully loaded, driving temps and fan speed up to maximums.

With Vsync or FPS limiter set to Refresh - 1 the CPU and GPU aren't as heavily loaded, so lower temps and quieter fan speeds.

It's up to you to decide whether you like the "more than refresh can draw" frame rate, I think it's wasted renderings heat and noise... but maybe it's a nice visual effect too

 

• No (both external displays are 60Hz)
• Yes
• Yes

 

Gsync enabled might reduce your performance even without Vsync or Frame limiter enabled. So for benchmarks it's recommended to disable all that stuff that mucks around with frames.

 

That's probably it then switching between initializing graphics for 60hz and 120hz.

I've seen that before on laptop boot - when default is 60hz and I have the screen set to 100hz. Double blink as it were.

Using DDU + new driver package install with custom 100hz only set solved that one.

That solution won't work for you, as you just have 2 different monitors getting initialized for 2 different refresh rates.

You could set your 120hz to 60hz and reboot, then try again - just for fun to see if the blinking stops.

 

yeah ignore it, that's because to get the highest benchmark score it's best to disable GSSYNC + VSYNC. do you want to play or to bench that's the question

 

I definitely don't like to overdo things I just want as little input lag as possible, it seems to be worse with a FPS cap but I'll have to do some more field testing.

 

I want the screen ficker to stop in game menu / laoding screen....bench is just to check the flicker....

I never have the issue while laptop boot, screens never flickers

Tried custom 60Hz refresh rate on laptop display and still one external display screen goes black when game starts, only way to stop it if I disable the 120hz refresh rate in game and let the game / nvidia to choose the refresh rate but in that case GPU at 100% and fan spinning above 4000RMP @ temp 75+

 

1) What BIOS version are you using?

The latest is: E17A1IMS.10A

2) I hope you didn't update your VBIOS by something other than the official one you had

 

BIOS is updated...vbios is nvidia certified and cannot be flashed with moded bios.

I've this screen flicker issue out of the box....since day one and using laptop last 4 months....so almost tried everything....its not BIOs, its not vbios, its not nvidia drivers...

Looks like either i have to give up on 120hz refresh rate or G-Sync....with both enabled, screen flicker in game menu / loading screen...

 

out of ideas here, did you try creating a ticket with MSI or your reseller?

 

How bad is the flicker? I've read that one of the drawbacks of gsync is that in static screens like loading screens there is a little stutter. I've seen it on my display too.

 

I've had flicker with GSYNC only when I set it for both Windowed / Full screen mode and that was on a desktop monitor, the ASUS PG278Q so I just leave the setting to the default now which is only for 3D Applications / Full Screen

 

If you are looking at the left side where the ports are, the one on the far left is line out for your speakers.The one on the far right is for headphones. It's headphone, microphone, line in, line out from right to left. I don't know enough about KAVE to help much more. If you don't have the latest drivers, you may try that or uninstall Nahimic and see if it works.

 

hey gents,

i Play the beta Ghost Recon Wildlands and this time my battery was drain to 90% and the psu was not able to reload the battery but hold the battery at 90% while i play.
when i stop playing the battery was reload.
so now my thoughts are that i can maybe buy a 330W psu from Delta Electronics.

could this work?

 

That is a feature of the laptop. It will go down to 95 or 90% and charge again. It's supposed to help battery life.

 

where did you get this Information?

 

From MSI here. And this forum of course.

 

Yes, MSI implemented that to maintain and prolong the health of the battery.

 

Nice the Support said that the drain is not normal... and gave me that answer to my ticket (from Global Support and German Support):
Sorry for the mistake.
You sure that the battery will charge to 100%?
Cause if the battery capacity is higher than 90%, the system won’t start charging the battery. This is to avoid the loss of battery life span from constantly charged and uncharged.
I think this may be the reason.

And this: https://www.msi.com/faq/notebook-684

What is now true..?

 

It's a little of both really

The in game drain is when the system uses battery power to augment AC power for highest performance.

IDK why it's stopping at 90%, but maybe that's the tuning for your model.

Others report going on down to 30%, which can take 6+ hours of gaming to hit, then it starts charging again - reducing FPS as gaming stops taking power from the battery and the charging also takes power from the AC - taking away from game performance.

Also, even when not gaming / heavy load, the battery may stay between 93% and 100% - picking a different level at different times - to keep the battery in conditioning while charging - limiting total charge held on battery.

Between the two I guess you might hit a mode where augmented power from battery might stop due to charging and while gaming it's just enough to keep the battery at a single level and not increase until you stop gaming.

IDK if it's not normal, but I wouldn't worry about it if after gaming your laptop charges to between 93%-100% regularly.

You could try unplugging the AC power and see if it starts that cycle again and continues augmenting power under 90% charge to 30% like others have reported.

 

Looks like it's normal behavior then.

Maybe when you get a 120hz external monitor it will react differently?

What mode do you have the 2 displays in? Independent, spanning? or? You could try another mode to see if that affects effects

 

Thanks for your reply roccat kave has standart 5.1 input. there is three jack like the other 5.1 speakers. 1-green 1-orange 1-black.
I know that means. green=front, Orange sub/cen, black= rear. but which jack will connect to where?

DOES NOBODY USE A 5.1 SPEAKER ON THE GT73VR???

 

So is the fan curve the problem, running to high fan, or is it load on the GPU / CPU causing high fan speeds?

Keep the G-sync/V-sync settings in game / global that stop the blinking, and use RTSS to limit CPU / GPU load by setting FPS to Refresh -1.

Does the DGC let you adjust GPU fan curve, or just CPU - that's what I am assuming.

If it's just the GPU fan curve - and it's not adjustable with DGC, it's not CPU / GPU load causing heat to cool off raising fan speeds, then try uninstalling DGC - as it controls the fan curve, and use XTU / Afterburner + Windows Power plan to control OC tuning.

 

Thank you for your explanation

 

Is the black screen you mentioned like the one I have been dealing with? Screen goes black for 2-4 seconds and then returns like nothing happened? If connected to HDMI, when it returns external has no sound until you restart the computer?

Because I thought I fixed my black screen issue with starcraft 2 only to start playing black mesa and during the intro (I went into the control panel and put everything on the highest quality) it black screened like starcraft 2 does, so it turned black, dropped connection to my TV, came back again, no sound. Now I'm really stuck because it only did it with starcraft 2 and diablo 3...now black mesa. I'm running 376.33. I do not have flicker in menus like you have though.

This is with Gsync set to fixed refresh and vsync set to fast.

 

You can adjust both fan curves.

 

i just update EC firmware 17A1EMS1.108 from 7RE and then restart black screen, i don't see anything. Although I have pressed the reset bios

 

I think the cause of the error is due to update firmware EC 17A1EMS1.108 from 7re for my 6re although I pressed the reset bios ? Anyone like me yet?

 

No but I will open a ticket with MSI, see if they have something to add which we all cannot figure out....

but discussing with re-seller or sending it back or sending for RMA.....not possible...I can't spend $400 on one way shipment, There is no official or un official MSI representation in my country and I have to ship it to USA...in that case I will live with flicker and black screen.....

Screen flicker in my case is not very bad....enabling v-sync in nvidia control panel (which was disabled before) helped little....G-Sync set for both Windowed / Full screen mode or default doesn't help in my case...

I will check today if I have screen flicker if run game on external display only.....

both external display on extend mode....I need more screen space for work.....

No mine one is different, I have black screen (external display for 2-4 second) when run game on laptop screen....I'm using extended mode....my case it's more like screen refresh rate issue....Ports doesn't matter, I have this issue on all ports HDMI, miniDP and Type C, tested on all ports....

 

Did you follow the EC firmware update process correctly....?

Resting BIOS will not help in this case....EC and BIOS two different things....

 

Yeah, I think it's normal, and if it only happens at certain transition points, it's something I would expect, I wouldn't have thought it unusual. No need for RMA.

Did you disable V-sync in game settings?

That might be it then, both displays spanned/extended with 2 different refresh rates.

I'd try independent display setup, if only just for testing, to see if the blinking effect goes away.

You could also disable the internal display screen and only use the external display when connected to it, that would give you a single refresh rate display to initialize.

If you need more desktop space, maybe get a 4k external display?

Yup, it's all working nicely

 

Hmm, what I said was the lack of G-Sync had been corrected...which means, it now does not lack G-Sync.

 

Apologies i read it wrong .

 

Since there is only 1 line out. I don't know how you could do that unless there is some kind of adapter you can use.

 

Has anyone tried to aply LM?

 

@Phoenix

 

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