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New Battery Calibration Tool v1.0.1609

What does it fix.....?

 

Wow dude! Looks awesome. If anything overheats even after being put on that, it is a lost cause.

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I don't know but that's the version that I had on my MSI GT73VR 7RF from the beginning.

 

You meant this ? You may know what this **** come from?

 

@iunlock

Why does my system agent show 800 MHz. I thought it should be 1000 MHz?



Didn't play with the voltage, just set the multipliers to 42X and everything is stable/cool.......

Also, I increased the power limits from 200 to 300, but what shall I set the VR Current Limit to?

 

Oh yeah - one of the most problematic heatsinks in a long time. Right up there with the Razer Blade 14

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Clevo makes the flimsiest heatsinks out there! It's a matter of luck to get a good heatsink that makes good contact with the CPU. I had to change 2 heatsinks on my previous Clevo P870DM before I found one that makes good contact. I feel sorry for the people who buy these laptops then face overeating issues not knowing that it's a simple fix via a heatsink swap and they go returning / refunding their machines thinking they are overheating

 

Yeah, I've had bad experiences with Clevo heatsinks myself. From what I've read, MSI seems better.

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Msi haven't make it 1000MHz as default. Aka they still live in the past. Even the crippled AWbooks have it 1000MHz. Ask MSI support why they don't follow specifications like all other Maybe they still have complications doing things correctly in bios!!

 

just wanted to make sure it isn't something in my settings that I've missed

 

Here is my tweaked Windows 10 desktop! Be smart.. be like Phoenix.....

@HardCoreGamer4Life @Shehary @iunlock @SagerFanatic

 

Looking good!

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Dont hang the messenger bro . MSI design and create their own desktop MB + firmware. But that they can't manage to fix the firmware for their own laptops, is a mystery to me. Thought Dellienware was useless, but this is at the same level. See also the news from previous crippled firmware in the first AW ECHOBOOKS early 2015 http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-says-thermal-but.801219/page-3#post-10458345

 

that has nothing to do with MSI. MSI's cooling is way better than Alienware. At least their laptops work out of the box and have no screen backlight bleeding most of the time unlike Alienware

 

@Papusan my rep points are now overclocked to 4700 MHz

 

Next levet must be...


And my rep points are BGA speed Aka a bit over the base clock for your 7820hk Need more Powa

 

Are you using Startisback?

 

Classic Shell.

StartIsBack has an issue which I've reported to the developers ages ago and he refuses to fix it.

You see, with Windows 7, let's say you launch a program, CCleaner for example......

That program will now appear in the start menu on the left pane frequently used programs......

If you right click on it and choose remove from list, it won't show again, but if you launched it a few times again, it will show up again in the list which is how the start menu should work. It should show you the frequently access programs in the list on the left.

Now, with StartIsBack, if you remove a program from the list thinking maybe you won't need it there to show up as you aren't going to use it often, but later start using it more, it will never populate in that frequently accessed programs, it's gone........forever....you have to manually hunt for it from the Start Menu.

Classic shell works exactly like the Windows 7 start menu, it will re-add a program if you removed it from the list after you have run it a few times. Classic Shell is basically, the Windows 7 start menu ripped from Windows 7 and move to Windows 10

Here is my XML settings file if you want the start menu to look exactly like Windows 7 but with the PC Settings shortcut in there for ease of access: Download Phoenix Classic Shell XML Settings

 

Just ran a 3DMark11 test with the CPU overclocked to 4.2 GHz on all cores. GPU at stock speeds. GSYNC = ON. FAST SYNC = ON. Texture Quality = HIGH. Power Management = Adaptive

I can obviously get a higher score by setting the GPU to High Performance and the texture filtering to High Performance but I wanted to show you how performance would be in a normal users' usage scenarios, that is, with adaptive power management to not make the GPU always work on the highest clock speeds which wouldn't make sense if you're watching a movie or browsing the web, and I also kept GSYNC enabled but with FAST SYNC enabled for the Vertical Sync. that way, the max FPS isn't limited to the screen refresh rate but you still won't get any screen tearing.

 

Good score! What level were the fans on?

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sorry forgot to mention that, they were on Auto, I couldn't even hear them spin up to the max. I could hear them start running just a bit faster than when I'm idle, but very quiet

I bet you those temps will go much lower if I put them on max speed

 

Hmm interesting, I never used classic shell before but will try it when I get to my main computer. Thanks bro.

 

That is great. Are you at stock CPU voltage or undervolted?

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stock bro. I did nothing but raise the multipliers to 42X in the MSI Dragon Center

CPU + GPU has IC Diamond using the X Cross Method

 

Thanks, very useful.

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one more thing, I raised the power limits in the BIOS from 200 to 300

Still don't know if I need to change anything in the VR Current Limits as @iunlock didn't answer me. but so far, it seems like I don't need to as the CPU clocks are holding @ 4.2 GHz and not throttling.

Welcome the Phoenix on-board the MSI Gaming bandwagon

 

@ThePerfectStorm I just saw your sig, it says you have a Sager when will you get rid of that and join us with an MSI laptop?

 

That Sager is dead, I've just been to lazy to edit my sig. Hopefully I will join Team MSI soon, money permitting.

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You don't need to increase any limits if you have no throttling and your clocks are holding. Higher clock speed is another matter

 

If Eurocom Tornado F5 will refresh with a 17.3" 120hz w/GSYNC I doubt that you're going to stick with MSI for long. xD

 

That's normal and yea it's strange eh? As you've discovered the clocks will hold so all good there.

Haha yea...true. Tri-Retarded mount with the CPU die off centered. Brilliant. The gap over the CPU was for extra cooling right?

Every company has their issues....Clevo's would be dead without Prema. That's just as bad. Sucks to be faced with all these issues, but it is what it is...

Yes, the MSI's cooling is serious business, but at the cost of db's.

@Phoenix, you should try StartIsBackPlus as I've noticed it to be a bit cleaner and more in depth than Classic Shell, which I've used and still do like. Just a suggestion for something else to to with.

If I remember correctly, StartIsBackPlus was more resource friendly. Let me know if you do get around to trying it.

Ah I've been out all day. Glad the clocks are holding for you. 42x...not too shabby eh...

 

Yup, that's one of the MSI apps I uninstall (same on Asus) as it's cure is worse than the uncorrected display.

You can unpack the installer and get the icc profile for your specific display - they are named to identify which is which - then install that icc profile - but not the app.

You don't necessarily need to do a clean install after the app is installed, but you do need to undo it's effects by installing a custom profile.

An uninstaller app like iobit's or similar to track what gets installed might help, see if it will track down the registry changes with first uninstall from stock image.

If that isn't enough after the uninstall reinstall if with the uninstaller app watching the install to see everything the installer touches, then run the uninstaller again to hopefully get everything.

There have been apps that even uninstalling don't work, and doing a complete clean install is the only solution, but you miss out on the other things from the OEM image, so try to work within the stock image if possible.

@Phoenix if you get a chance to work from the recovery restore next time, try this out and see if this works.

What are the remaining symptoms after uninstall?

 

@Phoenix
After looking at the unpacked Truecolor, they have .bin files now instead of .icc files, not sure if they can be renamed to .icc and installed, or if you will need to go through installing it and then Export the ICC profile to use on another OS install without Truecolor.

 

I use Revo Uninstaller Pro FTW

Here is the thing, please focus with me.......

1) I used the ICC Profile which HIDevolution for my screen after they calibrated it and went to the advanced options in color management, change system defaults > use windows display claibration

that makes the ICC profile actually work

2) now when I uninstalled True color because of the red hue it gives me when quickly moving items around, every time I reboot, I notice that the colors are blown out, as in, they look overly white. I then have to manually go to the color management > advanced > change system defaults > then uncheck / recheck the use Windows display calibration for the colors to look right

I got tired of doing this upon every reboot so I just deleted the ICC profile which I had and set all color options to defaults in the color management, but that overly bright/white effect didn't go so I formatted and wasted a full day of reinstalling my apps

I am not using the MSI image bro. I clean installed with the latest ISO / latest drivers


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on a separate not, why does MSI provide separate downloads for HelpDesk, Battery Calibration, etc? when I try to install them, I get an error message that the version currently installed is newer than theo ne I a trying to install. So basically the MSI Dragon center also installs those apps but a newer version. Are the MSI Drivers team smoking something?

 

let me know if you want me to hook you up with MSI True Color v2.0.0.17 which Portrait Displays sent me (they are he developer) although it has the red hue when moving items so I don't suggest you try it

 

Yeah, I've seen those two problems, that's why I don't use DGC or Truecolor.

I'd uninstall both, and use discrete app installs so you can be in control.

I've seen the color profile management issue resetting itself at reboots, and there is a fix, I'll see if I can dig it up.

 

Thanks, but I stay away from TrueColor

I did download the latest version from the GT73VR 7RF support page to see what the unpacked installer looks like, to point out the .icc profiles, see my other post, and it doesn't look good. Maybe the one you have unpacks to actual .icc profiles?

Like I said I do recall the aftermath resetting Color Management at reboot, but I do also recall there was a fix - I think I just do it automatically now - essentially going through all the steps of setting it in the first place.

Let me see if I can find the step by step instructions.

 

did you read the issue I've had with StartIsBack bro?? I'll never use it that way if it doesn't behave like the Windows 7 Start Menu does......

Here it is again......

 

not Eurocom though, I've had very bad experience with their customer service. HIDevolution would make the same thing if Eurocom did. I'd rather get it from HIDevolution and have proper customer service and better thermal paste jobs anyway

 

Wow, the original step by step with detailed explanation is still around

STOP LOSING DISPLAY CALIBRATION WITH WINDOWS 7
August 23, 2009 by Laszlo Pusztai
http://www.laszlopusztai.net/2009/08/23/stop-losing-display-calibration-with-windows-7/

And, yup, this is the key step, click on the Color Management "Advanced Tab", and select "Change System Defaults":

Without that, if you just do the Profile selection in the first dialog Color Management brings up, you lose those settings between reboots

 

Ah noted....didn't see that post.

 

that's what I've been doing an telling you bro. this doesn't work on Windows 7. It's working to activate the profile once I check that box, but upon rebooting, I see the box still checked but the profile is not correctly loaded until I uncheck that box and then check it again

Unless the MSI True color did some permanent damage to the OS. I am scared to try now unless I make a system image first because if the error happens again, it's a full day's work of restoring back my Windows image which I created

 

I'm not talking about "the box" - in the article image it's not selectable, I am talking about going through the whole additional process started by clicking on "Change System Defaults", and going through all the tabs there too.

The dialogs look the same, but the Title on the grab bar changes - adding System Default - just set it up the same - add the same Profile and set it as Default and pick that ICC profile from the drop down under Advanced for while profile to use - it's the first drop down in the long list of drop downs - and the 2nd one set to use ICC.

 

You really should consider making a Macrium image of the final build state, the one you keep rebuilding from scratch, as it only takes 5 minutes to restore from a Macrium Recovery USB restore of that full image.

That makes it more palatable to "start over"

 

I know, I did that.

The moment I enter Windows, the color profile is loaded, I can tell the difference, give it a few seconds, it goes back to the pale colors as if there was no color profile until I uncheck / recheck the load windows display calibration box again

I might just use my Spyder5Pro today as its built in app always load the calibration properly

 

@hmscott

Now I see what's happening.........when I load Windows, the color profile is there, you can tell as the screen is a bit warmer, after about 30 secs once the MSI Dragon Center is loaded, it goes back to the stock profile until I reload my profile again

 

I'm trying to tell you I had seen the same resetting behavior at boot and this method solved it, the article I linked. I had the same issue with TC long ago on Asus - it's the same thing now everytime I set up a new laptop or restore the OOtB image and uninstall TC to set things right.

IDK why you doing the same thing isn't working, I can only guess it's not doing the same thing

Hopefully the Spyder5Pro app will override it all and set things right

 

one more reboot now......I wanna see if the colors go back to the profile after a while......

 

Aha!! Another benefit to uninstalling DGC

Maybe you can "unset" the DGC Color Profile setting action?