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    where is that? I have nothing for color profile in DGC
     
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    It's activiated by the "uninstaller" program for DGC... :vbthumbsup:
     
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    no such thing

    I just did another reboot while looking at the taskbar icon, the color profile is discarded the moment SteelSeries Engine is loaded
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    IDK, these coincidental running of other apps, like DGC and SSE aren't related AFAIK.

    DGC I do uninstall, but I keep SSE.

    Can you please snip the image for all the Color Management dialogs and post them somewhere I can look at them?
     
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    uninstalled SteelSeries Keyboard, it didn't affect anything

    sorry bro. I give up on this. I have wasted so much time on this crap. I'll just stick to the standard without any ICC profile
     
  6. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    When you are ready to revisit it, let me know, I know it can be solved, because I do it with every computer I set up.

    Maybe your Spyder software will override it and set it up correctly for you. :)
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Hmmm, maybe it's another Windows 10 "feature", as it looks like lots of people are having this problem - you are on Windows 10 right?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=win...rome..69i57.7015j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
    https://www.google.com/search?q=win...7WvYXSAhUJllQKHasqBp4QpwUIFA&biw=1203&bih=645

    https://www.windows10forums.com/threads/color-calibration-resets-upon-shutdown.5865/

    https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/83366-nvidia-drivers-washed-out-colors/
     
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    Just installed MSI True Color v2.0.0.17

    Here are the built in calibrated profiles it made...... http://www.mediafire.com/file/1ra6w9swh9j6bsd/calibration.zip

    I will uninstall it now
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Have Msi set fclk clock speed to 800MHz also for their Skylake model or is this just for the new Kaby models?

    My criticism is more based on that MSI writes its own firmware and create their own MB and graphics for their laptops, opposed to what other OEM's do :cool: And MSI is big on desktop MB. Why make a difference? There is no reason to put 800MHz now over 1.5 years after Skylake was introduced. And Razer, Clevo,Dellienware, Gigabyte +Asus aka all other use 1000Mhz instead of 800MHz.

    I know there is not much difference between 800 vs. 1000MHz in performance, but we have already come to Kaby lake :oops:
     
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    @hmscott

    Lemme know if you need the new MSI True Color v2.0.0.17

    [​IMG]

    PS: Yes I am on Windows 10
     
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    then the loading automatically upon a reboot issue comes. Windows 10 issue it seems.

    Let's just let this go bro....... as I said, not wasting more time on this
     
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  13. Beemo

    Beemo BGA is totally TSK TSK!

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    Yes I mean the Clevo 16L.
     
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    you mean MSI not Clevo
     
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    Beemo BGA is totally TSK TSK!

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    EVOC MSI 16L. Phew! confusing name. xD
     
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    If you are not using updated drivers from nvidia website than your display drivers will be updated by windows to 376.54
    Looks like it's only with KabyLake, with SkyLake clock speed is 1000MHZ @ 41x....
     
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    What gives?

    and how does it affect anything if the CPU clock speed is the same, like @ 4.0 GHz or so......?
     
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    If so... It is what suits the MSI's firmware writers. No consistency in what they make. No need to use different fclk clock speed settings for their various models :rolleyes:


    [​IMG]
     
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    Good point. As a producer of desktop mobo's it would be nice if they would apply the formula across the board. Maybe with the F7? :p

    Although MSI is mostly in house, most of the other OEM's outsource their software...so it seems.
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Have you tried DisplayCAL? I use that for my profiles and it works great. Loads upon boot and easy to manage.

    Maybe that will help?
     
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    not wasting a single second on this screen color profile issue bro anymore. I'm fed up

    you didn't answer me though, what difference does that 800 vs 1000 MHz affect anything if the end result in CPU clock speed is the same?

    I was thinking that was FSB. as in FSB = 100 x 40 = 4000 MHz?

    please enlighten me
     
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    As you saw in my last post #3668, wrote MSI's Firmware writers the more normally used 1000MHz in the bios for the MSI models with 7700Hq aka Kaby. Inconceivable clumsy :rolleyes:
     
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    Old data. But a very very small increase in graphics. All depends on the GPU.
    [​IMG]
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    It really makes no difference, if at all. It's no different than your rpm in your car idling at 800rpm vs 1000rpm. At the end of the day what matters most is the clocks sticking solid at a given OC. :)

    ::iunlock::
     
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    now @Phoenix will be very pleased to know that..... ;)
     
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    can somebody please fix edit post > save changes > nothing happened..... o_O
     
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    that's what I thought, thanks for the confirmation
     
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    Does Mrs. Papusan have a rabid hated of BGA as well? ;)
     
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    :rolleyes: BGA ↓↓↓ :D
    [​IMG]
     
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    did you notice that you hang out in the MSI forums now more than Clevo ever since I bought an MSI taptop? :eek: :rolleyes: o_O :confused: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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    Hmmm I found true colour to be dull so I have it set to gamer and use the Nvidia control panel settings to adjust colour and set it to 70% vibrancy and it looks much better.
     
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    I'm all over the places bro. Collecting info!! And I have to stalk you :D I'm ready to give you proper and very good advices If needed :p Hope you don't mind.
     
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    I updated to the latest drivers from nvidia using the hotfix version and my performance improved. Turns out, the previous one I had, was performance limited somewhat. I tested it out (will find the exact driver version when I get home) but my performance was the same regardless of overclock or settings. Firestrike always yielded 22.8k score even at +250 core and +400 memory. With the latest drivers, I am back in the near 25k GPU score, and my fps are more stable now.
     
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    :rolleyes: :D
     
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    Try this ICC profile by @razorfold and see what you think. I use CPKeeper to start it with windows. I don't think it works the same with everyone. I like it though.
     
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    how did you do +250 on the GPU core ?? On my Clevo P870DM3 the max I could do was 150Mhz GPU / 300 MHz RAM stable. maybe because that was SLI
     
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    @ryzeki @iunlock

    Just in case I want to ever undervolt my CPU, how do you do it in the BIOS? I see there is a 0 value, what do I change that to? 100? and where to put the negative sign to make it an undervolt rather than and overvolt?
     
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    oh speaking about performance, the reason people complained about the new drivers causing more heat is the fact that they run the GPU at full speed whereas the MSI drivers kinda limit that, which explains your higher performance results with the new hotfix drivers
     
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    MSI afterburner :) Though I usually run at +200 / +400 when benching. I haven't found my max stable limit.

    It must be a hidden setting. We might need svet to upen up secret settings. I tested and found that the number value you put there corresponds only to the mv figure, but the same value applies to both positive and negative mv figures. There has to be a setting we can't find. To set negative mv you will need intel XTU, or throttlestop if it applies. Once you set the figure, it should stick. If you do it manually, you can only overvolt.


    Yes, I did read about it, but my original drivers and a couple drivers versions also ran at full speed. I didn't even noticed when it got locked. Nvidia sure drops the ball a lot with drivers haha. I much prefer full performance, even if it runs "hotter" (I haven't really noticed much increase, if at all though... only when overclocking but that's understandable).
     
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    so when you apply an undervolt or any other setting in XTU, is it linked to the BIOS and actually applies it in the BIOS like it does with Alienware laptops?
     
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    @iunlock

    I noticed if I set my multipliers to 41 or 42x, the clocks hold during Fire Strike or 3DMark11, but if I run an AIDA64 stress test, be it on 4.2 or 4.1 or 4.0 GHz, the moment the stress test starts, the CPU clock speeds throttle immediately to 3.5 GHz even though the CPU is @ 70C........what gives?
     
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    Aida64 Cpu stress tests with all four boxes checked shouldn't use much more power than Wprime 1024M - Cinebench. Monitor Cpu package power on all of those tests with Hwinfo.
     
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    Fixed, just undervolted by 100mV and increased the Processor Core ICC Max from the default 75 to 100

    [​IMG]

    @iunlock @ryzeki
     
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    Why use XTU? When You can use TS?
     
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    XTU comes with the Dragon Center :eek:

    I don't like that complicated TS

    Enjoy this bro, BGA taptop

    @iunlock @ryzeki @Mr. Fox @infex

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    I explained this back when GT73 launched. You are being current limited. Auto limit is set at something like 75 Amperes. In Bios raise the limit to something liked 200 A. You will eliminate that bottleneck. Now make sure to checl temps haha.

    Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk
     
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    simply increasing the current limit from 75 to 100 fixed the throttling. I also undervolted by -100mV to tame the temps :)
     
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    Oh wow you can run -100mv at 4.2ghz. What voltage in total are you running when pushed to the limit?

    I need +100 only to run at 4.2 haha.

    Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk
     
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    would this screenshot be enough to show the voltage you are asking chief?

    [​IMG]
     
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