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Very low voltage, thats awesome. I am at 1.3v right now.

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all I can say, I am glad to be on the MSI Gaming Team Bandwagon.

A huge thanks firstly to @Mr. Fox as he taught me everything I know about overclocking

A big thanks to you for showing me what power limits I needed to input and for the VR Current limits tips

 

@ryzeki @hmscott @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER @Mr. Fox @infex @Shehary @iunlock @Papusan

not bad for a BGA laptop heh.......

wPRIME @ 4.2 GHz:

 

Not bad? What is considered good for BGA? We need a base point before we can consider was is good and not good for BGA.

 

Here's a small comparison, not BGA, but should give j00 an !d34:

i7-7820HK @ 4.2 GHz:



wPrime @ 4.2 GHz 4940MX



wPrime @ 4.2 GHz 6700K

 

Nice try, but no.
We will use this BGA as a starting point. And I'll get @iunlock and @Mobius 1 in here to post some as well. Since these are guys who know how to overclock BGA as well. No scrubs when we are looking for base starts.

 

be my guest bro, let them show us teh r3$ult$

mind you, this is on a fully working machine with all the software installed and NOD32 AV. I can get better scores if I run the benchmark the moment I install the drivers and no other software but I didn't have a chance to do that for now as I didn't even know how to reach 4.2 GHz stable until a couple of hours ago

 

Dang, we haven't even started yet and already with the excuses. LOL. Lets give it a few days before embarking on that path.

Norton Symantec/ Full factory os with everything installed and loaded. So you are out trumped!

 

The Wprime 1024M score from [email protected] is heavily crippled

 

Well crap, I don't have my 6820HK anymore. Seeing a delivery of 7820HK from AW very soon.

 

awaiting your benchmarks

 

Poor 1070 gets no love in here. Just a bunch of uppity 1080 owners lol.

 

Will do.

With how little price difference is there for the 1070 and the 1080 model, most prospective owners would just spring to the 1080 and pay extra.

 

Here are my BIOS settings:

 

what happens if you set blck clock to 10000?

 

Maybe 4.189 or around there? He Want clean numbers

 

Exactly that.

As for a fight off for BGA CPUs, I am scared to participate, but I can do up to 4.4Ghz and I will have to maybe put the laptop in the freezer for 4.5ghz.

 

HaHa, Yooo will find proper benchmark tests for your testing in @Phoenix's software thread Start with 4.5GHz And don't forget to put Cashe equal Smash Phoenix's bench scores.

 

I fear for my poor ol' CPU! but fine, let's see if it turns super saiyan hahaha.

I will bill you if anything explodes

 

Maybe it will end up SSJ 4.5

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Rep added, but you have to pay for new Mobo yourself

 

Yes OCD bro

 

Just post what you have already done with your prior BGA's.
This is a BGA only competition for cpu. We already know it will never beat a 6700K or a 7700K as of today's date from people who know how to over clock them.

I resent that. I have a BGA 1070N and also a desktop 1070 along with my sli 1080N's.

This is a BGA competition so get your's in!

 

Nice.

I have some. will post when I get into the office.

... One thing I like about John... Humor.. Haha...

What's the highest OC you've been able to obtain on the 7820HK?

::iunlock::

 

Have to try and keep it lite @iunlock else we get hurt feelings and then the shenanigans start to fly.

 

So true...like this dude in the aw13 thread just being a pill lol...

It's fun messing with people with no humor lol.

Cheers to the nature of emotions getting lost in translation due to it being text and over the Internet. = because it's comical.

::iunlock::

 

6820HK rank

Superpi / 4.7GHz @1.48v / G752VS: http://hwbot.org/benchmark/superpi_...Id=processor_4390&cores=4#start=0#interval=20

CB15 / 4.6GHz @1.49~1.5v / AW15R3: http://hwbot.org/benchmark/cinebenc...Id=processor_4390&cores=4#start=0#interval=20

 

Dang...not too shabby.

::iunlock::

 

@Phoenix nice stuff dude. glad you got it worked out. XTU plays nice sometimes. =)

 

XTU has played nice on all the Asus / MSI motherboards in laptops and desktops I have used it on.

It seems Clevo's are the only hardware I have heard that have issues using XTU - and then Clevo uses XTU in it's CCC tool; seems odd...

 

My CCC has XTU disabled. My OC is strictly bios. I only used XTU when I had my MSI GT72s.
I do like some of the features of xtu though.

 

Yeah, MSI has a weird BIOS for OC, it's voltage offset's don't clearly support a negative offset... so XTU or TS must be used to do so.

I think you can uninstall the XTU elements from Clevo CCC, or make a Clevo CCC installer without it, don't have a link, maybe someone else remembers - probably more likely in the Cleov thread

 

Here's one of runs at 43x:


At 46x but it was throttling, hence the score...not too shabby though...


@Johnksss@iBUYPOWER , @Mobius 1, @Papusan , @Phoenix

 

For a mobile i7, I wouldn't call this a progress. The BGA chips can't compete with the quality from the older mobile socket chips. The Wprime 32m score is from a +5 years old mobile i7.

@Johnksss@iBUYPOWER

http://hwbot.org/submission/2657067_godfafa_wprime___32m_core_i7_3940xm_4sec_867ms
Soo

 

http://hwbot.org/submission/2271206_johnksss_wprime___32m_core_i7_2960xm_4sec_800ms

 

And still can't beat a +5 years old mobile socket i7
http://hwbot.org/submission/2685497_johnksss_superpi___1m_core_i7_3940xm_7sec_289ms

Yeah. Haven't seen benching without throttling with 5.0GHz on BGA

 

Haha no worries man I'm still here I'll keep you up to date with BIOS/Drivers and such when they come out.

I personally gonna upgrade the laptop maybe one more time at the end of the year/beginning of the year (2018) so I didn't opt for the 1080. Or if the GUS II comes out I'll just get that and the latest 2K series GPU most likely. But there is a high chance I might rebuild my desktop as I miss all the overclocking/tweaks I can do. So maybe I'll get the 8K Intel series/2K nVidia series laptop or a desktop... who knows maybe I'll go Ryzen on the desktop if the price/performance is right .

The GT73VR is pretty good on the go desktop replacement whether you get the 1070 or 1080 the performance is really up there. I have most of my games maxed out when I stream on twitch clocked at 4.0GHz (stock voltages) on the CPU and GPU hovering around 65C on auto fans/stock tim no prob

 

Mmm there's truth to that, but to be fair a mobile chip breaking into the 4's and 149's regardless is an accomplishment since it is indeed a mobile chip.

John did say in his earlier post that this is in no way a competition between desktop and mobile. I do still like my old school 4790K though...all time favorite, but who knows...with the 7700K here now....

 

What I showed you, was bench from an +5 years old prehistoric *mobile* socket i7 Into the 4's in 32M - 5 years later and still be beaten from an ancient mobile i7 isn't exactly impressive Or?

 

Haha I know...never did say it wasn't impressive. I'm a big fan of the older chips.

I'm just curious when we'll hit a plateau. We're already closing in at 10nm technology so I'm curious how much smaller we can get? We're already at the threshold of running into limitations due to the small die size....

The next few years should be interesting.

 

Intel Confirm 8th Gen Core on 14nm. Not exactly impressive

"With Intel stringing out 14nm (or at least, an improved variant of 14nm as we’ve seen on 7th Gen) for another generation, it makes us wonder where exactly Intel can promise future performance or efficiency gains on the design unless they start implementing microarchitecture changes"
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11115...n-core-on-14nm-data-center-first-to-new-nodes


"interesting to see it that it once again will be a 14nm series which makes it the 4th gen on that fabrication node.
This also means that Coffee lake (6-core mainstream processors) will be pushed back at least to 2018 as quad-core Cannon Lake processors are planned for the second half of 2017."
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ne...ake-15-faster-and-again-a-14nm-processor.html

 

Intel says they are going to start work on 7nm. But when you get that small, cooling is harder when you also want to increase performance by decent amounts.

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Just to be clear, I said starting work, not starting production.

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Ah makes sense. Yea had a feeling as this was a tock tock with Sky Lake to Kaby.

Gosh if Coffee Lake is pushed back to at least 2018, I guess Kaby Lake would be a good buy even though it's a tock. At least we can squeeze 5GHz+ from it.

Interesting times...

 

Very true. I don't think we even need to get any smaller and to just improve on the real estate that we have now. Heck 14nm is small enough.

Look at this timeline....notice the increments are way smaller now going into 2018+...

• 10 µm – 1971
• 6 µm – 1974
• 3 µm – 1977
• 1.5 µm – 1982
• 1 µm – 1985
• 800 nm – 1989
• 600 nm – 1994
• 350 nm – 1995
• 250 nm – 1997
• 180 nm – 1999
• 130 nm – 2001
• 90 nm – 2004
• 65 nm – 2006
• 45 nm – 2008
• 32 nm – 2010
• 22 nm – 2012
• 14 nm – 2014
• 10 nm – 2017
• 7 nm – ~2018
• 5 nm – ~2020

I'd rather have a powerful platform built on a 22nm than a fuel efficient 10nm any day....

 

I'd rather have both as options - a cool, powerful, high-clocked 6-core 22nm 45W/95W for DTRs, and a fuel efficient 10nm for a work ultrabook.

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Or more like this?

http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/23...-pa-14-nanometer-lanseras-till-slutet-av-2017

 

I think it's also an indication of how little advancement there has been in the CPU industry in the last 5 years. The die can only shrink so far. They are going to need to look at the architecture and number of cores eventually.

 

Cannon and Coffee Lake are bringing 6-core mobile CPUs, at least that is interesting.