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Well, if MSI ever decide to start selling cars, I probably won't be the first customer. Could be some scary moments when you turn on the radio and the cars starts accelerate before you remember that in order to break, you need to turn on the whippers

 

Sounds like a challenge @Phoenix

 

Don't really trust uninstallation in Windows, a bit to much OCD I guess (and no, thats not Over Clocking Disease ). But is all necessary software available for download?

Doesn't MSI come with a recovery partition like most laptops these days in case reinstallation doesn't go well?

 

Now I am mad. I will beat him tomorrow, busy reinstalling the latest Windows 10 Build as the Windows 10 Media Creation Tool was updated today. Fresh clean start

 

Now he is messing with BIOS....I doubt he will return soon for a challenge....

 

....damn.....new installation...again. .....i still have the window out of the box and it's been 5 months......

 

That's what MSI BurnRecovery uses to create the recovery flash drive, built from the image in the recovery partition.

As soon as you install from scratch Windows on the boot drive, overwriting the original boot drive, you won't be able to use that recovery partition again... it's still there on the HDD, but you don't have the Windows image on the boot drive that can access it any longer.

You could pull the boot drive and put it on the shelf - that's another safe recovery method, but I would still recommend getting a 32GB USB 3.0 flash drive to *DEDICATE* to creating that recovery flash drive - don't be tempted to blow it away that one time you *need* it for something else - buy a few USB 3.0 flash drives at the same to to have spares to avoid this

 

Yes it does have the partition. You should have a 32gb flash drive ready to do the restore usb as soon as you get it in case you ever need to go back to factory stock. Yes, you can download everything from the MSI site. I have an older hard drive and have all the MSI files copied to it and use as an external drive if I need it. And I use IOBit for uninstalling. Works very well.

 

I use various uninstall programs to catch all the cruft left behind.

So far absolutely no "from scratch" load of Windows has ever outperformed my "stock image" on any laptop

There is no performance improvement, or other advantage to using a "clean" install - terrible name for it BTW, it should be called the "complete waste of time from scratch" install

 

Or maybe just use that spinning paper weight that someone seem to have forgotten in my supposed-to-be-only-cutting-edge-stuff-laptop

 

You need the MSI OS image on the boot drive and MSI BurnRecovery as well as that "spinning rock" HDD in order to use the recovery partition.

Many have tried to recover from a "clean" install on the boot drive, only to find they can't get at that recovery partition.

You could be the first

 

I pray I never have to do a new or restore install ever again! The 2 I did yesterday trying to get nvidia's driver to install makes 8 or 10 now I think.

Working great now though. My temps even seem lower than usual.

 

Then perhaps I shouldn't mention that I have Task Manager set to autostart on all my Windows installations...anything unknown starting to consume CPU power...well, take a guess

 

Might be my last message here before being banned but...here goes...am I the only one to find the design of the GT73 to be a bit...too much? BTW, my "I'm a geek and I know it t-shirt" was not included with my laptop, do I need to order that separately?

 

I would have preferred it without the racing stripes on top, but I don't see it much anyway.

 

Yes, that blinding red dragon on the back can have that effect in a dark room

 

It helps to get in the mood with a nice Dragon Mascot

MSI Dragon G
Motion Activated Roaring Sound and LED Pulse Lights
Detailed Models with Poly Resin Materials
Global Limited Edition 500 Sets
Product Dimensions：18.9" H (480mm) x 15.5" W (394mm) x 18.5" L (470mm)
Weight : 2.8 kg
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https://www.msi.com/collections/pages/MSI-Dragon-Lucky-M.html
https://www.msi.com/collections/pages/MSI-Dragon-Lucky-Key-Ring.html
https://www.msi.com/collections/pages/MSI-Dragon-Mini-Block.html

 

So thats why you can never find the time to do a proper reinstallation of Windows

 

Proper Windows re-installation?

So it's you vs. MSI - who is gonna build the best Windows OS image?

Ha!! You lose!!

Go ahead, erase it all, don't make a backup, let impatience win out - we'll wait quietly while you put it all back together on your own.

No, really don't shoot yourself in the foot, make the backup and DTRT, you've got nothing to prove here

 

I ended up doing a fresh install and it was really more hassle then it was worth, I only removed Norton and True color.

I really enjoy this laptop, if you don't get a lemon then I bet you will too.

I don't type much but I have always gamed on a desktop when at home and a laptop on the road and the first hour of gaming was always frustrating until I got warmed up. I was overjoyed when Belkin came out with the N52 game pad, it has morphed over the years to the Razer Orbweaver but I now have the same exact layout no matter what game or machine I'm playing on.

 

Well, we are after all talking about the same people that came up with the brilliant idea of moving the alt-gr just to achieve....well, who knows really

 

That's a different team of Genius's within MSI

 

I never really had particular problems doing full windows reinstalls on any of my MSI machines. I even reinstalled windows on my GT80 a couple of times, without problems. I actually download the drivers I care/need for on a USB, put them on the same USB where I have the windows 10 install, and wipe it all out.

If anything, I have had more issues with the damm windows cd key, as I have independent license for w10 pro and sometimes it works, sometimes I needs to update the OS to a particular version before it works, and sometimes I need to put it before updating a major update! Silly stuff.

 

Problem.

I switched over to iGPU earlier, as I was going to be on battery for a while. Everything was fine. I got back on AC, so I switched back over to the 1070.

Now the laptop just boots to a black screen, no matter what. I managed to navigate the BIOS blind, did F9 then F10 to reset, that didn't work.

The laptop still boots into Windows, I can put in my password, the keyboard lights up, everything works except the screen.

 

I don't find it too much, at all. Plus you can cover the back stripes if they bother you. There were worse machines before. My GX660R almost 7 years ago looked like a dancing disco ball with glowing LED light stripes all around, and the worst glossy finish on all the laptop. ALL the laptop. I loved that machine, performance and reliability wise, but looks left a lot to be desired haha.

Hell, this one is pretty down to the point (where you actually use it, the keyboard area etc). the outside sure is the "gamer" look or style, but if it works, I don't care. I've used gaming laptops even for work and I've never really had any issues by its looks.

The shirt needs to be ordered separately, and it has leds that glow in the dark.

 

CMOS reset not working?

 

Is it a tap, or do you need to hold it for a specific time?

Computer need to be on or off?

 

When I reset my GT80, I had to remove the main battery, the bios battery and press it for a couple of seconds. Not sure if I over did it, or if the GT73 is just press and be done with it. It wouldn't hurt to try 5 second press.

 

I'm not sure how to reset the cmos in this. I know there is a hole on the bottom that you stick a paperclip, or something similar, and it resets the battery after an ec update. You are supposed to unplug the power and hold it down for 10 seconds. The manual says to also try that if the system hangs. Have you tried getting in safe mode?

 

Can you get into safe mode blind, with Windows 10?

 

Keep tapping the F12 key when booting and a menu will come up with options. I cant remember exactly but I think it is under the advanced options. Oh wait. I see now you had to navigate the bios blind so that probably wont help. Try the ec reset.

 

For those with E2200/E2400, Wifi N/AC and want an updated Killer Suite:

Last update: 15 February 2017
Comments: Killer Suite package includes drivers for Killer E2200, E2400, Wireless-N and Wireless-AC
Operating Systems: Windows 7, Windows 8.1, Windows 10 64-bit and 32-bit
Version: 1.1.67.1760

This BETA software includes an updated Wireless driver to address a known issue on a small percentage of systems where the Killer Wireless module will drop the WiFi connection when passing a large amount of traffic. Rivet Networks has been working closely with Microsoft and has identified a fix. The fix has been confirmed with users that currently have the issue and we expect an updated official release in the coming days.



*Note this is BETA*

E2400 = GT73VR Skylake
http://www.killernetworking.com/driver-downloads/item/e2200-e2400-wireless-beta

E2500 = GT73VR Kaby Lake
http://www.killernetworking.com/driver-downloads/item/e2500-64bit

 

If you could do it once, then tell me what order of buttons to press, I can manage

 

I don't think it is even possible without seeing where to move a mouse. I can't even get it to come up ever time when I try it.

 

If I remove the 1070, will that force it to boot into VGA mode?

 

• Did you try that reset in the bottom of the laptop? Removing the 1070 seems like a lot to go through not knowing if it will help. Maybe you could call tech support in the morning?

 

To reset bios, flip the laptop and at bottom panel, right bottom side, speaker holes, look for a hole which is little bigger in size, if you wana do it without remiving bottom panel you need a pin, insert pin and press or remove bottom cover n look for small touch button and press it, how long you have to press google it or go 200 or 300 pages back and you will find a post with snapshots n detail....good luck....

 

If you look in the manual. That is the battery reset. You put in a paperclip and hold it down for 10 seconds.

 

If its anything like the GT72 series it will boot to iGPU and you'll be able to boot on desktop then you'd have to use the MUX switch to change back to the dGPU.

 

Here is a new target for you @Phoenix aka As promised @4.3GHz

CINEBENCH R15 - 6700K @ 4.3 GHz

 

yeah it is battery reset but CMOS battery, to reset BIOS have to pull off the CMOS battery and in this laptop the CMOS is on the other side under the the KB, you can still try to pull it off if get lucky......

remove bottom panel, the empty bay left side of HDD / SSD (where big rubber piece is located) the CMOS battery is right there on the other side of the MB and you can see it easily but cannot access it...may be screw driver can be helpful to remove the battery...but why the hassle when you have a reset button

btw thanks for reminding there is a manual which we all should read at least once.....

 

Yes it will, according the BIOS the dGPU and iGPU is on AUTO so if one not there other should take it's place....no one tried it but you can give it a shot....

btw if you want and can operate the laptop blindly, I can help you to boot the laptop with iGPU without removing dGPU

 

well that's good to know. the manual doesn't explain that.

 

Yeah I already decided to do that tomorrow. It's looking an Nvidia issue, I just need to get to the desktop and I should be good.

I'm down to give it a shot, if you are. There's nothing to lose.

 

Press or keep pressing Delete to enter BIOS

Inside BIOS press the key combo only Once to Enable the Hidden Settings, If press twice it will turn off the hidden settings and with following keys you will end up somewhere else....

Press Right Arrow Key One Time > Press Down Arrow Key 15 Times > Press Enter > Press Up Arrow Key One Time > Press Enter > Press F10 Key > Press Enter

Good luck...

 

with GT73VR you don't need to reset the battery after an EC update....may be in manual MSI mentioned something about it (they mostly forget to update detail) but online if you read the instruction, they clearly mentioned if your laptop has non removable battery, after EC update, it auto reset the battery, no need to remove battery or press any button.....

 

I remember holding my power button for a long time to reset my BIOS after a ram timing tweak fail.. but I dunno if that'll change the GPU

 

This worked? How? I just did a full motherboard removal this evening due to bad memory timings set by myself. Nothing would reset the BIOS and luckily for me the CMOS battery was on the bottom of the motherboard and I got to remove the board to unplug the battery. If this would have solved my issue I will be so mad at myself. I tried a number of things and nothing worked until I did the full tear down. Up and running fine now but won't be messing with ram timings on this thing anytime soon unless I relocate that CMOS battery.

 

Any recommendations for "adult covers", ie something to make the GT73 look more like something for a 40 year old instead of something for someone....a lot younger?

 

I tried to email geniuses<2msi.com several times about the Alt Gr key but for some reason they never get back to me