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lot of noise? LOL you should here the noise my previous Clevo P870DM3 makes, then you'd call this a silent taptop

 

no man, link me to it again

 

Here goes my BIOS OC for 4.2Ghz config:

Core Ratio 42x (for all cores)
CPU VR Current Limit 400 = 100A
Power Limit 1 = 230
Power Limit 2 = 230
Uncore Ratio 36x
CPU Voltage offset = -0,100
Cache Voltage offset = -0,100
FSB = 10035 (in bios to change to 10033)

It is similar to yours? Should I change something else here or other BIOS parameter besides this?

BIG THANKS!

 

those are my settings, except now, I raised the Uncore Ratio to 40X

After doing that in BIOS, go to Intel XTU and also ensure those settings match, then save and reboot

Also ensure the CPU multiplier sliders are all @ 42X in the MSI Dragon Center

any issues you're having with those settings? they work fine for me

 

Yes, everything is the same in Intel XTU and also in MSI Dragon Center the 4xcore are all way up to 42x

I did also that, raising the Cache from 36x to 40x, but when I did more bench and stress tests, specially running all the benchs in SiSoft Sandra 2016 SP1, I got memory management blue screen of death. For sure related to the Cache 40x. Downgrade again to 36x and all the times I did so far, and many times, without a single error or throttling the CPU. So far stable with this settings 4.2Ghz OC and 36x Cache. I ran

- lots of times the Time Spy benchmark, Fire Strike and Fire Strike Ultra, but for 1080p remaning the rest of the Ultra settings
- lots of Heaven and Valley benchmarks
- 10 x all the tests of Sisoft Sandra 2016 SP1 benchmarks. Some test can raise ur CPU temp to 90º C
- 10 x all the benchmarks in AIDA64 Extreme 5.8
- 2 hours of Stress Tesing in AIDA64

So far so good

 

I tried it again and I even deleted the folders
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\Portrait Displays and
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Portrait Displays

The result is the same: I can open True Color and I can choose a profile, but nothing happens then

 

what version are you using?

 

lemme run PassMark Perfomance test to see if the Cache Ratio is stable

 

1.6.3.005

 

same here

 

@ravenrocha

No errors @ 4.0 GHz Cache Ratio

PassMark Performance Test 8 - MSI GT73VR Titan Pro 7RF

 

Very good!!! Try also all benchs in SiSoft Sandra 2016 SP1

 

no thanks bro. I have enough installed

 

Hi everyone. I am new to the forum and looking for some advice regarding the GT73VR. Apologies if this is not the right place to ask. Are you guys facing any quality issues with the laptop?
I have actually made up my mind for MSI GT73VR w/ GTX 1080 after doing a lot of research. I have been following the topic of pascal (since launch last year) very closely and was considering alienware 17 R4 also an option but i have read enough to not make that decision. All i am concerned about now is the quality of MSI GT73VR before i take the plunge.
@Phoenix bro your posts have been very helpful. Moreover i also reside in UAE (Abu Dhabi), so betting on HIDevolution for the purchase. Would like to connect with you for more information.

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PM sent, for UAE customers, there is no better place than HIDevolution

 

In the past I had 4.2 GHz stable for everyday use with 6820HK. No throttling in games and benches.
Considering 7820HK is higher binned than 6820HK and has 300 more MHz, theoretically it can do 4.5 GHz stably.
That will boost your physics score to about 14~14.5K and might break the 19K FS total score.
I never played with 7820HK, but I am guessing a BIOS input with 1.24~1.28 voltage will do 4.5 GHz... guessing...

The good thing about BGA is, it does not have IHS. The die can make good contact with the heat sink and transfer heat more directly.
With CLU and the powerful MSI 12V fan, I tested in the past the heat sink can handle 100W CPU without sweating.

 

When I tried 4.4 GHz the other day, it corrupted my entire RAID Array, not risking trying again

 

Yeah, you gotta work out the OC and stability issues before moving back to RAID, it's sensitive to power out crashes - too much data loss - but often the Intel RAID tool will be able to fix the RAID consistency issues, but you have to boot first from another OS drive.

You maybe didn't have to lose your RAID...next time try booting from another device and run the Intel RAID tool to fix the volume.

 

Is it because you are having "Write back" mode on and "Write-cache buffer flushing" off in RST?
If that's the case, a CPU crashed will have higher chance to cause data lost.
In the past I kept formatting my OS like you, whenever my OS crashed with "kernel power lost" indicated in Event Viewer.
I found out playing with the cache ratio in my past 72S can cause stability issue, maybe keeping cache ratio default will help (still need to keep voltage the same with core).

 

that's what I have exactly

Right now I'm on 4.2 GHz with a -100mV offset

For 4.4 GHz, I had to do a 0mV offset but then the temps were reaching 95C so I'm not happy running the laptop like this all the time. I think 4.2 GHz is the safest stable limit because if I undervolt while @ 4.4 GHz by let's say -40mV, the CPU will throttle to 4.0 GHz right away when there is a stress test running

 

I was having Write-back mode for a long time, it not only gives me better disk performance, but also increases my GPU score somehow.
Recently I switched back to Read-only for better stability and free up some CPU cycles.
I agree 95C is a bit too high, 80~85C probably will be a more comfortable temp.

 

I don't get True Color to run anymore... Is it possible to export the sRGB profile, to use it with Color Profile Keeper? Or can anybody of you load the sRGB profile and then save it with CPKeeper for me? Would be really great!

Thank you

Fabian

 

all I can see are these files not ICC profiles:
adj.bin
backup.bin

 

Ok, so it must be saved, e.g. with CPKeeper.
I tried the ICC profile from http://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GT73VR-6RE-Titan-Notebook-Review.172916.0.html and I can live with it for the moment. But it would be really great, if I could get back the sRGB profile from True Color!

 

Portrait displays sent me an updated True color, download it but install over the top as an update:

https://app.box.com/s/qgsei18aip72g1xygswg2mrp3tvf3tdm

if I remember correctly, that does show you the actual ICC profiles so you can uninstall the update after you copy the profiles later one

The reason I don't use it anymore is because when dragging windows, the text in the files/folders within those windows gets like a red hue while you are moving the window then goes back to normal once you stop moving the window. Same goes for scrolling quickly up and down in webpages, it's a bit buggy but you can get the ICC profiles for all screens from it

 

Hey man, I got some questions to you on how you achieved a stable 4.2Ghz mark with the 6820HK.

What were your setting in the bios with this? Did you undervolt? Did you raise the power limit from 200 to 230/300 and the CPU VR Limit to 400 to yield 100A? How were your Temps during the stress tests?

Thanks man!

 

Hi again Phoenix,

Did a CPU test with this benchmark tool and I reach 12013 in CPUmark More 13 points then you ;P and with 36x Cache ratio LOLOL
My max core temp was 76º C. Please benchmark with SiSoft Sandra 2016 SP1. This benchmark too is a children playground for Sisoft Sandra. With Sisoft Sandra my hostest core went to 94 º C

 

Try my settings:

Core Ratio 42x (for all cores)
CPU VR Current Limit 400 = 100A
Power Limit 1 = 230
Power Limit 2 = 230
Uncore Ratio 36x
CPU Voltage offset = -0,100
Cache Voltage offset = -0,100
FSB = 10035 (in bios to change to 10033)

 

We have different CPUs. You have a 7820HK while I have a 6820HK. They're both very different when it comes to undervolting and since the 7820HK has a 300Mhz more turbo clock than the 6820HK it can undervolt more than the latter with the same core ratios. The 7820HK can handle the -100mv undervolt @4.2Ghz but I've read in a previous post that the 6820HK can only handle an undervolt of -55mv @4.0Ghz (much more so if it's @4.2Ghz, it may even need an overvolt which I'm not confident doing). But maybe @Coolane did something to have achieved this 6820HK @4.2Ghz stable OC.

But thanks for your feedback man, I've been reading this thread since I first posted here (somewhere in page 316) so I've seen your posts.

 

I sold the machine half a year ago, let me try to recall the BIOS settings as much as possible:
Core ratio: 42x
Cache ratio: default
Voltage for both Core and Cache: 1.260v (over-voltage, it depends on your chip, you might need less or more)
Voltage offset for core and cache: 0
Power limit: 200W
VR limit: 380 (95A in XTU; 100A or more crashed my 72S instantly in XTU score test)
This settings didn't throttle the CPU in games, Fire Strike, and Cinebench, but it might throttle in some special scenarios(such as heavy FPU related tests, XTU score test, etc.).

It passed RealBench for 8 hours(no throttle), max temp was 87C (max fan on), environment temp was about 70F. I was using CLU for both CPU and GPU, and had cooling fan blowing under-beneath.

 

Thanks for this man! I'm not gonna do an overvolt to the CPU though. I'm still new to OCing so I'm gonna go slow, maybe I'll just OC the CPU to 4.0Ghz and not gonna touch anything. I've read somewhere in this thread that to OC a 6820HK to 4.0Ghz is already stable without changing anything else just the core ratios to x40 in the bios. I'm just gonna stay at 4.0Ghz (maybe try 4.1 with no undervolt but increase the power limit and VR limit) for gaming, which I've read is already more than enough to run even games that rely so much on the CPU. I'll just take it slow and not going to do anything that'll do any permanent damage. But thanks for sharing this with me man! Those were really cool temps considering you even overvolt it.

 

Yep, unless you really need the CPU horsepower 4.0GHz is more than enough, you'll be around a stock 6700K desktop performance. You just need to find whats comfortable for you. I stream on twitch and play games fine on 4.0GHz. Benchmarking for numbers I will push it but I back it down for regular use and then set it to idle at 800MHz.

 

Hey man! Can I ask what's your max stable OC for the 6820HK? I've read this thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-settings-for-4-0ghz-to-4-3ghz-stable.787791/ by @iunlock and it mentioned a stable 4.1Ghz OC without touching anything but just the core ratios to x41. Have you done anything like this and can I ask for the core temps during benchamarks? Thanks!

 

Edit: This pict is from Alienware's stock 7820hk in Wprime. Only 18C degrees difference between hottest vs. coldest core + Powa Throttling and +83C with stock clock!!

YEEES Finally

 

That was probably me with the -0.55. I can't do anything under -0.55 without it eventually crashing in game, handles CPU stress tests with ease though with lower voltage (-0.65 to -0.70). My temps at -0.55 undervolt are 65-66C with a stress test, it was was hitting 76C at stock voltage while stress testing. This is all at 4.0GHz

How do you set it to idle at 800mhz at idle? I keep switching back to eco to get lower temps while idling but if I can set the turbo profile to also idle at 800mhz I would be very happy. I'm currently using intel XTU.

 

I missed your PM. Is it possible i can contact you sometime today or tomorrow?

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You are welcome!
Since the chip is soldered on the board, it will be safer to play it safely. MSI is not covering any damage for overclocking.
For desktop(LGA) chips, Intel provides affordable protection plan (insurance) for as low as just $10 for Pentium, and $30 for 6700K/7700K.

 

Thanks man! I'll try this settings at 4.0Ghz. Anything you changed like the Power Limit from 200-230 and VR Limit to 400 for 100A? Also, have you tried running it at 4.1/4.2 Ghz?

 

Bro @Phoenix is one of the most helpful people on the forum. He'll hit you up

Swap a fried LGA chips with a new one are maximum 10 min work. Worse with BGA hardware. New or used MB is expensive and can be difficult to obtain.

 

For now 4.0GHz is my no-touch stable clock, I only tinkered with my laptop for a few weeks after I got it for benchmarking purposes but then I got it balanced to good performance when needed (streaming on twitch while playing games) as well as low temps/idle use.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11433632 this is an old score but I was able to push the CPU to 4.3GHz, I'll probably try it again after I change my thermal paste again this weekend. Those clocks were with stock thermal paste and sometimes I would see spikes in CPU temps. After changing the thermal paste it was a little bit more steady but its not the thermal paste I'll be using long term.

Max Non Turbo Boost Ratio - This is a tricky setting if you're looking to undervolting. Mainly because if you do an undervolt offset, it will scale with the lower frequencies/voltages. If you can set them by curve like the GPU or like Android phones that would be nice but in this case if you set this to 8x it will do 8 x 100 = 800MHz so when you're idling or not doing anything it will sit at super low voltage 0.0xxx and you'll be hitting 30C~>

On Auto fans at idle (heated room of 27C ambient) I see about 33-35C on GPU and CPU idle.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11735930 See here it says reported stock 800MHz

 

And finally I found the proper solution (hardware) to connect one or more than one drives to HDD2 connector...further update will be coming soon....

 

@Phoenix I was able to get an overclock to 4.3ghz w/undervolt of -0.85 and GPU +200core/+150mem. Firestrike score of 18633. Dam, I need to repaste, 19k is so close!!

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/18142902?

 

To be honest I haven't touched any of those because I don't know what they do yet. If it is running fine now at -0.55, why would I need to change them? Like I said I need more info on OC'ing. I probably won't make it run higher than 4.0 because I don't like high temps. I'm very happy with 65C during a stress test.

So you turn it down to x8 when you go to sleep or leave it alone for awhile? Wouldn't it be easier to just put it on eco mode? When I check my temps in the morning they are around 30-31C CPU/GPU.

 

Nope I set to forget, I dont touch XTU anymore and I don't have DC installed. When im not doing anything it goes to 800MHz on its own, no need to set it. When I stream/play games goes to 4.0GHz no problem, don't have to worry about pressing turbo or eco mode. Fans on AUTO mode, never gets past 65C on CPU and GPU.

Still going to change the paste tomorrow to squeeze a little more.

 

What program did/do you use to set up your CPU? I would like to have it idle at 800MHz also, eco mode sits at 1.3GHz at idle.

 

Just set your Max Non Turbo Boost Ratio to 8x on XTU.

 

Is the modded U3 with 12v 3x120mm fans really good at cooling? Does it make any difference to the CPU's and GPU's temps? Since I don't want to always max out the fans in the laptop, I want to buy a cooling pad that will get the stress off of it. I'm planning to just run the 6820HK maybe at 4.0-4.1 Ghz if it can be stable with low temps mid 70s. Will I need the modded U3, or is the cooling system of the GT73VR 6RF enough at auto fan? I plan to do the U3 mod using the Noctua NF-F12 iPPC 3000 PWM with 12v adapter. Any thoughts on this? Thanks!

 

superb!

 

Here is why Fast Boot is not sticking (to the option ENABLED) in my laptop:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ion-in-bios-stick.801271/page-2#post-10468400