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So what does that mean exactly? The only way to fix it is to replace the gpu?

 

The final release of the Killer drivers is out! Hopefully they fixed that disconnect issue...

 

I tried that new version and it works - I can switch the profiles again. Unfortunately, the sRGB profile of it looks very different to the old one... It looks like the profile from Razorfold, much much too dark (grey and dark blue look black). It seems, like my display is darker than most others.
I installed the old version of True Color one more time an found that error in Windows Event Viewer:

"GammaSpline.exe
1.0.0.1
57d336da
GammaSpline.exe
1.0.0.1
57d336da
c0000005
00000000000209c8
1ce8
01d28d3b487a4fc8
C:\Program Files\Portrait Displays\MSI True Color\GammaSpline.exe
C:\Program Files\Portrait Displays\MSI True Color\GammaSpline.exe
6227af29-dcf7-4930-b4bd-648db466cde9"

Unfortunately, that says nothing...

 

I have registered my MSI GT73vr, but when I login it shows my product is empty!!!!
IS there any solution?
thnaks

 

Hmm I used XTU and set it to x8 for max non turbo boost but nothing changed. still sits at 1.2-1.3GHz with ECO option and lowest of 2.7GHz on turbo.

 

try again bro, or hit CTRL + F5 to do a hard refresh maybe it's picking up the old cache

 

I didn't change anything in XTU, the moment I go to the power saving plan or choose ECO in the MSI Dragon Center, the CPU clocks dip down to 900 MHz

 

Could be because you have DC installed trying to overwrite the settings.

 

honestly I wouldn't use dragon center power profile


I use high perf power plan (or bitsum highest performance), but the processor power management setting is taken from the power saving






For power saving, use these values. Note that this is after the hidden settings have been enabled / showed.



90
90
100
Rocket
20
Disabled
40
5
Enabled
90
Passive
99



so whenever you unplug the computer, it automatically has a power saving profile


throttlestop has auto switching profile to a further undervolted one with speedstep EPP set to 128 stock value and turbo disabled whenever the computer is on battery mode

 

@Phoenix Bro, does your modded U3 lower your temps significantly? Is it worth the money to build one? I'm looking at around $360 for the parts plus shipment. Thanks man!

 

can you share the parts with prices...?

 

Wire splitter - $7.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0151C8NUU/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A3GO5VFCNOM5I7&psc=1

Adapter - $10.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01M1HW61Y/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?smid=AJ4ULFLLD51Q4&psc=1

Wire - $10.70
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FGDV9WY/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Jack - $5.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00XJ23U3A/ref=ox_sc_act_image_4?smid=A8GRJU0V6WTPX&psc=1

Dust filter cas - $6.08
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007PPZVIE/ref=ox_sc_act_image_5?smid=A1THAZDOWP300U&psc=1

CM U3 - $39.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ED3WMTC/ref=ox_sc_act_image_6?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

3xNoctua Fans - $23.69 each ($71.07)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KFCRATC/ref=ox_sc_act_image_7?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

A total of $152.81 without tax and still has shipping fee from the courier service I'm using. Approximately about $300 in total more or less. I want to know if this is worth the money I'm going to spend or is it better off spending for something else? Thanks man!

 

I don't need it or use it with this laptop. I was using it with my P870DM3. This laptop's cooling is amazing as it is with no need for any pads.

 

I totally agree with @Phoenix, this laptop doesn't need cooling pad....so better spend the money on something else more useful.....

 

How about for dust filtering? What can I use to filter dust intake? Since I'm a Civil Engineer, I'm going to bring this to sites to use it while working there. I'm concerned of the dust intake since it's going to be a really dusty environment during on-sites works. Thanks man!

 

I suggest not to use some readymade dust filter, look for some raw dust filter material and mod it to laptop design.....I just don't like dust so I'm using this pvc mesh dust filter and it helps to keep dust out....but in your case, I'm not sure it will be best choice so you can use something like DustEND-G2 Dust Filter (may be it reduce some level of fan noise too....)

another option and less expensive

just don't use too thick in size my guess something between 2.0mm to 4.0mm will be good choice.....

 

Thank you so much for this man! This doesn't lessen the cooling capability of the laptop, right? I can live to an increase of 2-3 degrees celcius if I were to use this.

 

It will not effect the cooling capability but filters will reduce the air flow, so use advance fan curve and raise first bars of both CPU / GPU between 25% to 30% (1500RPM to 1800RPM), fans will remain quite (mine set on 27% all the time)....idle temps will be under 40 (depend on ambient temp) and try to use less thickness of filters even if you can get your hands on less than 2.0mm will be excellent...but they are not easy to come by as they are industrial stuff.....

 

Thanks! I'll look for more of these filters for more options. I know this doesn't really make the laptop dust-free but it'll surely lessen it. But when the time comes that I should open and clean the inside of the laptop, is there a good air blower that I can buy that is strong enough to blow the dusts? Thanks again for the help!

 

I have used foam air conditioning filter material before, I bought it at home depot in a large roll then cut it to size. If oyu don't used canned air and find some kind of compressor you want to be careful for moisture that can build up that could some out the nozzle. They have desiccant filters that you could use on any compressor you run across.

 

Instead of canned air, are these safe to blow in the air intake at the bottom and exhaust at the back and sides of the laptop? Are these the same as the air compressors you mentioned or are these different?

https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=9SIA47J1ZD6308

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00S...235-5f98-9d30-53a1f30fe63f&pf_rd_i=3012916011

Are these electric air duster safe to use in a laptop or are canned compressed air better?

Thanks man!

 

I have never used one of those small ones before but they seem to get good reviews and I may get one for myself. I have a larger compressor for nail guns, the volume of air they compress can cause the moisture issue I mentioned. You also wnt to be careful of spinning the fans in the opposite direction with the airflow, I have read where doing this could create "reverse voltage" and cause damage, I always put a Q tip in the fan before I dust it off.

 

What's the Q tip for? Is it to stop the fans from spinning? Does blowing air in the exhaust can cause damage the fans (will the fans move if I blow through the exhaust maybe in the opposite direction like you said)? Also does blowing air directly to the fans can cause damage to it too?I've read that making the fan spin while blowing the air will damage the fan to some extent since it is turned off.

 

I use a Q tip to stop the fan from spinning, The reason I mentioned is that I always have some nearby when cleaning out my fans.

The motors in the fans, when spun backwards, can create "reverse" voltage. If spun to fast current can get to high in some of the components and cause damage but these fans can also have diodes designed in to prevent this damage I'm not sure if these, or any other PC fans, have this feature so I only blow them off when shut down. The GT73VR allows for easy access to the fans, I removed mine to check the model number, if you are in a dusty environment I would pull them out after 100 hours or so to check them, I would also keep an eye on the temperatures.

@Papusan linked to some plugs that can be used to fill the unused ports that you may want to check out. https://www.everafterguide.com/spec...i-gt73-gt73vr-17-3-inch-854ea726461327a7.html

 

Sorry for the dumb question but I an't seem to find this in my BIOS settings. Where is it?

 

End product doesn't have those BIOS settings....

 

New BIOS for the GT73VR Titan Pro 7RF: E17A1IMS.313

Description Fix load default then switch iGPU to dGPU, panel black screen.

To flash the BIOS:

1) Download the ZIP file

2) Extract the ZIP file and copy/paste the BIOS file to the root of your C:\ Drive

3) Enter BIOS and select UEFI BIOS Update

4) Choose the partition which corresponds to C:\ , keep trying different ones until you see the partition which has the Windows Folder so you know that's the one, you will also see your BIOS file there, so just select it from the list

5) You will get a message asking you if you want to update your BIOS, once you hit OK, the system will reboot and re-enter BIOS automatically and start the flash update

6) You will see several progress bars, do not interrupt the process

7) Once the BIOS Flash is complete and the system goes back into BIOS, load setup defaults, then save and exit

8) The moment you see the MSI Splash Screen logo, push the power button to force shutdown the system, then disconnect the power cable for 30 seconds to perform an NVRAM Reset, then reconnect the power cable

9) Turn on your system and hit the DEL key to enter BIOS, then configure everything again such as boot mode (AHCI or Intel RST for Super RAID 4), then configure your overclocking settings such as power limit 1/2 and VR Current Limits if you had them altered only, otherwise leave them at default settings if you are not overclocking.

 

Nothing for 6RF owners and 7RF BIOS cannot be flashed on 6RF....

 

I see, well I don't see any important changes to be honest, exact same. nothing new added so you're not missing on anything

 

Sorry, I'm confused. Can this new 7RF BIOS you mentioned be flashed on the 6RF to give eGfx support? If not, how can I get eGfx on the 6RF model?

 

This is for the 7RF model only as the posts suggests.

 

There is nothing to confuse...6RF or 7RF model(s) updated BIOS has nothing to do with eGfx support....you cannot access eGPU option and you cannot flash one model BIOS on other....will brick the laptop.....but I can assure you 100% that eGfx support is there and it's working out of the box for all GT73VR models....if you connect eGPU via Thunderbolt, laptop will auto detect it....

 

Thank you. Sorry. It seems I made a bad assumption that the eGfx BIOS entry referenced in your original screen shot was required to enable/disable use of an eGPU. I'm glad to hear its not and that an eGPU will be auto detected.

 

Follow-up to my post above. Has anyone used or tested an eGPU? If so, could you share the eGPU enclosure you used and any special setup required? I need to add an AMD WX 7100 for a special application.

 

These are the only examples I can find of someone hooking up the GT73VR to a TB3 eGPU, and the results don't look good - too much performance loss, even after hooking an external display to the eGPU GPU in the 2nd video:

Spoiler

Get a 1080 in your GT73VR, and you are set for a long long time.

Take the $300 for the XG Station + $600 for 1080 Desktop GPU + cost of cheaper laptop = cost of GT73VR with built in 1080

 

I don't like external GPUs personally. I like everything to be internal on my laptop. Same reason why I dont like external keyboards and screens

only external device I have is my mouse

 

Yes, but in my case I already have the GT73VR. I need the other GPU.

 

What GPU do you have?

You are gonna spend $900+ to get an eGPU / 1080, and it's not really gonna be much faster than a 1060 native in your GT73VR, so if you have a 1070 you aren't going to see any improvement from a 1080 in that eGPU, and I'm pretty sure spending another $300-$400 on a 1080ti isn't going to show much more improvement either.

 

Me too. I also prefer the GTX GPU but a special app requires the AMD WX. The advantage to putting in a eGPU enclosure is I can move it between systems.

 

ah ok. Does the Razer Core work with this laptop or it's only for Razer laptops?

 

There were PCIE connector extenders being used for eGPU's before TB3 and still being used now, I'd explore PCIE x4 connection for an eGPU if you need that special GPU.

 

I have the GT73VR with GTX 1080 and 4K screen which I use for VR. I need the AMD WX7100 for a special image processing app.

 

I think it should work. Just wondering what if anyone has tested one.

 

The Razer Core is advertised as working with other vendor laptops than Razer, but it's up to the vendors to work out the compatibility issues.

The Jayztwocents video's MSI laptops show the Asus XG Station working cross vendor, which is promising.

MSI is also coming out with their own TB3 eGPU this year, so that will be another possibility.

Asus XG Station with an Asus laptop has been shown with 2x PCIE x4 connections via the same connector as the TB3 with a special cable - so vendor specific solutions could be faster than native TB3 - Asus says there is essentially no loss using the XG Station with a 2x PCIE x4 set up.

 

Interesting idea. Why consider that vs an eGPU enclosure via TB3 -- cost?

 

Speed and Latency.

A TB3 connection can only give about 5 GB/sec while native PCIE 3.0 x16 is 16 GB/sec, so a TB3 connection is only 1/3 the performance + lag induced by TB3 communications over PCIE bus is much greater.

The PCIE x4 native connection, or 2x non-native PCIE especially for vendor specific bi-directional full performance like with Asus give more bandwidth than a TB3 connection.

 

We have a forum here at NBR you can puruse for information and inspiration with eGPU PCI solutions:

e-GPU (External Graphics) Discussion
This subforum is for discussion of external graphics cards (e-GPUs), including commercial and DIY solutions.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/forums/e-gpu-external-graphics-discussion.1103/

 

I have another problem... After I cannot get True Color to run anymore, I found a ICC profile that I like and I use Color Profile Keeper to fix it. Everything looks fine, expect for on thing: When I scroll black text, it gets red while scrolling. What the heck is that?

 

Redo your ClearType tuning.

If you have f.lux, that can cause it too.

 

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