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I had played around in BIOS a few times but I was unable to get the settings to stay so I just stuck to using DGC. I don't want to run this laptop maxed out with Prime95 all night long just to claim an official OC, I run Prime95 for 5 minutes to check the temps then I run benchmarks, I was able to get good results with the sliders set to max in DGC and I was able to get 15734 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11090155. At some point I want to try to drop the voltage a bit as my recent OC experience with my Kaby Lake desktop has tought me the value of it.

I forgot what my temps were when I tested my Benchmarl OC and Gaming OC profiles, when I run Prime95 or Firestrike I run the fans with the coolerboost button so those temps stay cool. When I game I use custom fan profiles which, at first, kept both temps mid 70s but somewhere along the line I had to bump up my CPU fan curve to keep the temp at 80, my GPU temps have been rock solid. Now recently I have been using game settings that keep the usage down as well as temps, I still experimenting with them trying to get the lowest temps while still operating at a solid 120 fps.

 

Regarding the Killer Settings program, do I need to configure it to get the best performance from the Killer WIFI and network cards? I disabled the Killer Settings from running on startup. What is your opinion?

About Dragon Center, anyone using USB and Storage boost options? Is there significant improvement to use it?

 

When I had the Killer WLAN Card, I found it best to only install the INF Driver as I don't like the Killer app to control what bandwidth each app gets. I have a faster internet connection and I want every app to have the max bandwidth available.

Killer WLAN Driver v12.0.0.285/BT v10.0.0.279 / [Killer Suite links removed due to how many problems it creates, stick to installing the drivers manually via device manager]

Storage boost does allow you to max out the connection of your storage device. I turn it on when I need to copy large amounts of data. No harm in doing so. I turn it off when I don't need it though to free up CPU cycles

 

OK, I get it. Even if u remove Killer startup program, something from killer software is running in background? Its better to uninstall Killer and only install driver via INF in the device manager?

 

I don't know as I never will install the Killer software, bad memories from the past like BSODs and whatnot or totally disabling my internet randomly when I am doing a lot of downloads simultaneously

 

One more question... about the power option settings. Which do u prefer when u have the laptop connected to power source?

1 - balanced performance, with intel speed step kicking in, and the the core ratio floating beetween 8x - 42x
2 - high performance, with the CPU always on the 4.2ghz (in my case with 4.2ghz OC)

 

always on Balanced mode (Comfort plan in the Dragon Center) unless I wanna game or benchmark, then I ramp it up to max speed (Turbo)

why would you want to torture your CPU @ max clocks if you're just browsing the web or watching a movie? Let the CPU operate as it was intended and prolong its life.

 

Completely agree with u!!

 

And the Killer LAN drivers? Which are the last only drivers? Can u pass me the link too?

 

your wish is my command:

LAN Killer e2500 Driver v9.0.0.42 (go to device manager, then right click on the ethernet controller(s), then choose Update Driver Software, then manually browse to the folder which you extracted)

PS: It disappoints me that I spent a lot of time and effort making this driver thread, yet people ask these basic questions, no pun intended. But see: MSI GT73VR 7RF TITAN PRO Drivers

 

Thanks again Phoenix!! I saw the other day ur thread about the drivers and I completly forgot about that. Sorry man
Ur work is fantastic and thanks for letting know today about the new BIOS version.

In the link of the WIFI killer drivers that u posted, the drivers are not the latest ones from Killer where in last version they fixed the lost connection issue.
I found something interesting. After normally install the Killer drivers if u try to running the Killer software setup again u have the option to modify the installation. And in this option u can take off everything and leave only the device driver. Very cool Why they don't give this option in normal setup? In this way u can take off the additional software, the bandwidth filter, etc, etc. Leaving only the driver

 

does the new model with the i7-7820HK CPU get hot/warm when overclocked, or at stock, or is it cool?
Sorry for the questions, thinking of getting the new Kaby Lake version

 

tell me the new driver version bro

 

12.0.0.296 from 12/02/2017 (data from driver in device manager)

 

Killer WLAN Driver updated to v12.0.0.296

Killer WLAN Driver v12.0.0.296/BT v10.0.0.279

 

Never seen a failed processor due running wild in high performance. Not even max overclocked
See also... LET THE PROCESSOR RUN WILD

 

Can't agree more. Modern CPU barely die within 3~5 years. I will suspect the motherboard will die first due to improper overclock than the CPU.
That's how I am comfortable of running 1.44V everyday. If it dies, I will just get a good reason to upgrade to 7700K or whatever it is offered.

 

And you don't need to pay high price for a new expencive MB (+ work if you can't change the MB yourself). As well... Max 10-15 min work if you need to put in a new or used cpu. Worse with everything soldered on the MB

 

Couldn't you just configure balanced mode to ramp up to 100% under load and then clock back down when idle? Seems easier than manually switching plans.

 

hi can you please try vmware workstaion and creating virtual machines .Need to know if this is supported on this model as i would like to buy for gaming and virtualization.

if you can paste some screenshots of bios settings of vt-x vt-d supported.

 

can you also run virtualization vmware.need to know if vt-x and vt -d can be supported .and virtual machines are supported and running.need to verify before buying.Please....

 

Hi guys!!

I'm using Dragon Center in turbo mode for OC @ 4.2Ghz. Everything is fine, but since I've flashed this new BIOS that came out yesterday, I can't have the intel speed step working properly when in turbo mode. Now the ratio is always 42x and never goes down. The Dragon Center in turbo mode uses the High Performance Profile in Power Options and I've change the Process Power Management for Min = 5% on power and still always stuck on 42x. If I changed the Power Options profile to Balanced Performance the ratio is working fine, but after a reboot Dragon Center changes again to High Performance and stuck again with 42x always. In the BIOS I have Intel Speed Step enabled and also Intel Speed Shift enabled. the C-States are in default values. Didn't change anything about that in the BIOS.

 

Can't you just make another profile in DGC and use that when you don't need the 4.2?

 

Quick follow-up question...I'm doing my due diligence and did a search on the MSI support site and user forums and did not see anything definitive on the GT73VR support for eGfx/eGPU. I opened a Support Case with MSI to ask officially. Could I ask how you are so sure that eGfx support is there and working out of the box for all GT73VR models and that an eGPU via Thunderbolt will be auto detected? Any documentation of this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

Ughh, configure the balanced plan? that's how it works anyway, nothing to configure. In balanced mode, the CPU clocks down when not in use, give it any app/game that needs the juice and it will ramp up to full speed automatically. You don't have to configure a thing.

 

Hi Phoenix. Did you see my previous post? What could have change for the turbo mode with the high performance settings be always stuck with 42x ratio? It was working in turbo mode before with variable ratio...

 

that's how it's always been for me. When I am in Turbo Mode, it's always @ 42X

When I want it to switch from low clock to max clocks according to what I am running, I simply change it to comfort mode

 

So, by default u are in comfort mode? And there isn't a way to do like I'm saying?

 

Synaptics Touchpad Driver updated to v19.3.4.69: MSI GT73VR 7RF TITAN PRO Drivers

 

What if you put bios to default. Re-boot and test, then go back into bios and only put your preferred multi and power settings?

 

I guess it doesn't matter how I know and so sure that GT73VR does support eGPU via TB3 out of the box since you officially asked MSI so better wait for their reply which will be official and more satisfactory....

 

Well, I just uninstall Dragon Center. Now I've set the balanced power profile to be used in battery and in power modes, from 5% to 100% of CPU power and the ratio until 42x is always working.
I think Dragon Center is buggy because sometimes, and I dont understand why, when I boot in battery mode, it starts like I'm using it for the first times and loses all the settings. Very very strange.
I'm using MSI Afterburner for overclocking the GPU and the CPU OC to 4.2Ghz is done by BIOS: So now without Dragon Center, everything is fine like I wanted.

I think I dont need Dragon Center for anything else. What is ur opinion?

 

Now I've set the balanced power profile to be used in battery and in power modes, from 5% to 100% of CPU power and the ratio until 42x is always working.
I think Dragon Center is buggy because sometimes, and I dont understand why, when I boot in battery mode, it starts like I'm using it for the first time and loses all the settings. Very very strange.
I'm using MSI Afterburner for overclocking the GPU and the CPU OC to 4.2Ghz is done by BIOS: So now without Dragon Center, everything is fine like I wanted. The intel speed step is really kicking in using the ratios based on the usage of the CPU (in power mode and in battery mode)

I think I dont need Dragon Center for anything else. What is ur opinion?

 

If the bloat screw up how you want your machine running... skip it.

 

For CPU temp monitor what is the best tool in ur opinion? Hwmonitor or RealTemp or anything else? I'm using Realtemp but since that the last update is from 2012, I don't know...

 

I received this response from MSI:

 

Hwinfo64!! Have all what yoo want. Use it with RTSS. You find everything you need in brother @Phoenix software thread.

 

Can you pass me the link to it? I've look on Phoenix drivers thread but I dont see this kind of software there...

 

You're welcome Software Updates And don't forget to rep bro @Phoenix

 

don't listen to MSI Support they are useless. They told me my laptop does not have and cannot have GSYNC when it does

 

Did you hear about MSI G U S...if not search it on youtube and google, it is not available yet but soon and it is eGPU and it will connect via TB3 40Gbps to laptop



Does GT73VR has TB3...Yes
Does it support 40Gbps...Yes...

I agree with @Phoenix, Don't listen to MSI....

 

Many thanks bro

 

Yeah, ask again, ask for a managers response, and then ask for a response from TB3 engineers.

Safe response is first, if customer goes away, so much the better. Large corporate culture.

Here are a GS73 and GT73 working with the Asus XG Station 2 eGPU, so we know it does work:

Spoiler: Already posted these a few times, once more into the mist...

 

@Phoenix and @Shehary Guys, I really appreciate your help. I don't have a lot of experience yet with MSI or their support competency.

I have heard of the new GUS. See my earlier post here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...cussions-lounge.794968/page-248#post-10438711
... but not sure I can wait for it or what features and pricing it will have vs the current solutions on the market ( https://gpunerd.com/). The Razer Core and Power Color Devil Box look interesting because they have TB3 eGPU and some other features that would useful like a 2nd Gb ethernet port that I may need.

One thing I don't understand is how an eGPU will work with the internal Intel GPU and the internal GTX 1080. If I use the eGPU do I need to disable the internal one that is active? If so, how would I do that?

Will I run into problems because I am mixing an Nvidia GPU with an AMD GPU on the same system even though only one would be active at a time?

Also, I looked at the settings of the bundled Thunderbolt SW and it doesn't mention eGPU support. In researching the Akitio TB3 eGPU solution I found this on their web site but don't see it in the MSI TB3 SW settings. Do I need different TB3 SW for the MSI?

https://www.akitio.com/information-center/node-gpu-compatibility

Many thanks!

 

what type of M.2 SSD does this laptop fit in the M.2 slot? can i fit any 2280 model or is it a different one?

 

look at my sig to have an idea what m.2 SSDs it can fit

2 NVMe m.2 and one standard m.2 non NVMe

 

Although the 3rd ssd is standard M.2 sata and not NVMe, its still a lot better than the crippled m.2 2242 ssd design used in the Alienware's. What ssd size can be obtained with this form factor? And probably difficult to find a brand you prefer as well.

Edit: M.2 2242 ssd form factor have max 512GB limit. A very very crippled ssd design!!

 

Add to that the much-discussed CPU cooling problems due to a design fail on the Alienware, and the GT73VR is undoubtedly a better purchase.

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It really is wasted real estate. I wish the ODM's could have used that valuable area for an extra USB port or something useful.

It just depends. The newer AW's are no worse temp wise than a stock GT73VR if left stock. Everyone has their flaws, but at the end of the day it just depends on what the user wants and what they can tolerate, because there will be a sacrifice made with any laptop you go with.

 

Fair enough, though the tripod CPU heatsink was really a fail.

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