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Fair enough, though the tripod CPU heatsink was really a fail.

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I wonder what people would say if Dell pushed out a 17 inch gamingbook with only 3x ssd slots Not that the 3rd Crippled M.2 slot will make the big difference This is more like (Tripod cpu heatsink and Tripod ssd slot)
And 4 ram slots shouldn't be a problem in a big 17 inches chassis. We ain't talking about a smaller 14 inches laptop.

 

Indeed, the tri-retarded design you mean?

I mean come on right? The CPU die isn't' even centered within the triangle mounting points. A tri-mounting design could work if whatever it is covering is centered.

 

Sometimes I wonder, who comes up with these useless designs (slots) and who approves them....SMH...

 

Agreed, but even then, why take a risk? Just use a 4-screw CPU heatsink like the GT73VR.

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Same idiotic idea like the crippled 3rd M.2 slot. The engineers must have had a bad day on work

 

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Or like the AW 17R3 even...gosh that heat sink makes the newer R4 look silly. Just incredible, how a design can go backwards when it should go forward.

Look at this... for the AW flagship to have the same quality HS as the XPS line?





Then look at the previous 17R3...which was way better than the current gen...



The 17R3 makes the current 17R4's HS mount look weak....seriously.

Yea the GT73VR has an excellent mounting system.



To be fair though, regardless of the dinky HS, with a little work the AW 17R4 produces excellent temps....

Right now on one of my units (17R4) the GPU only caps at 53C while gaming, while the CPU is staying in the mid to upper 60C's. -- Cooling system wise, the AW is excellent. Design wise not so much, but with some work..it works and works very well.

 

Alienware should be less focused on having thin laptops and more focused on cooling, IMHO.

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Precisely. Quite trying to be Apple and going all thin and stuff... here is where they have failed. They went thin, but created a monster (heavy) of a machine that doesn't line up with the thin profile, ratio wise. (Metal is good and I don't mind the weight, but...the ratio is wacko in proportion). If they are wanting to go thin, then that should have been left to the AW13 (which is excellent btw) instead of translating that design language over to the flagship 17R4. SMH....

Speaking for the majority, but we'd rather have a slightly thicker laptop fitted with a lga/mxm, but with the same quality as AW/Dell could knock this out of the park if they wanted to and literally destroy all. Not kidding...they have the money and resources to make the ultimate killer machine like they once did for those times.

Ok I'll wake up from my dream now... I had to check my 17R4 just to make sure before I had ordered a 7700K for it, but darn... LOL

 

AW act like Razer's big brother. Both thin slim design, both Tripod cpu heatsink and both with lower TDP for 1080 graphics And not forget max 32Gig ram.

 

I completely agree. An LGA+MXM 17" with good build quality and QC would be great. Clevo just does not have the level of QC that I want if I am going to spend that much money.

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Sad truth. -- There's no cure for tri-retarded nightmares. The antidote would be hopefully the F7, but it has a lot to live up to with build quality and such...

Yea, no. I agree for that much money, I'm not buying plastic. - Especially now that Ryzen has risen... How about an 8 Core Desktop Replacement?

 

Now, I wouldn't mind that some level of CPU futureproofing, eh @Papusan ?

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Put it more like this. I want to see numbers before I spend my hard earned money. To much happen in the industry now

 

Only a couple of more days to wait, then

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There's a lot of truth to that. Numbers on paper only tell half of the story.

Those Cinebench R15 Scores though with Ryzen...wow....did you see those cb's?

 

IIRC, Wccftech has some gaming benchmarks up as well. Those cb's are pretty impressive also.

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@Phoenix and @Shehary Please let me know if you can help with the above questions. Thanks again!

 

I have never used an eGPU so I am not the best person to ask about this

 

guys please exclude me from mentions/questions about external GPUs, I've never used one

 

what i meant was, is a 2280 make/model of m.2 SSD, or is it a different model number?

 

2280 is form factor, not make model, you can use any make / model of m.2 or nvme which has 2280 form factor....

 

SteelSeries Keyboard + SteelSeries Sensei Wireless Gaming Mouse + SteelSeries Mousepad Combo FTW:

 

thanks, i'm definite getting this laptop, want to say thanks to Phoenix for his advice, and help, i'm getting the same Kaby Lake one as you except i'm getting it from Scan.co.uk

 

Should we always keep the charger connected when we are playing game?
thanks

 

another question,
are the laptop cooling pads good or bad for laptop dedicated fans?
my coolling pad decreasing the temperature about 3-6 C , but i am not sure this pressure of air affect on laptop's fan or not?

 

You definitely want to keep it plugged in while gaming because at some point the power will go to charging the battery instead of your GPU/CPU.

I don't use a cooling pad but I do prop up the back with an Altoids can and keep wires from bunching around the area. If you use one post your results.

 

Now, I have another problem, my battery is 92% and it shows connnected, but not charging because keeping safe the battery by MSI ....
butthe GPU can not use its 100% power and it runs the games like when it is unplugged from the charger!! any solution?

 

That doens't sound normal, how about a re boot? Sounds like it is stuck in the low power mode.

 

I suggest same which I already suggested, wait for GDC and PEX events, MSI will reveal more about G.U.S, I understand you are preferring the eGPU solution which already available but why I suggested to wait because MSI will also reveal which laptop lineup will support G.U.S. so we all will know for sure GT73 will be in the list or not and will answer all the questions....2 days in GDC and 12 Days in PEX...

 

That is totally normal. The 92% is not the power it is delivering, it is the percentage that your battery is charged. It will usually stops charging once it hits 92% charged or above.

When gaming, you should always be plugged in to get the most power to your laptop. Gaming on battery will diminish your enjoyment.

 

@iunlock I can clearly see AW ceo Mr. Azor is one of those behind TRIPOD Cpu heatsink and TRIPOD M.2 2242 ssd for both AW and XPS line. He is of course the VP General Manager for the XPS line and not only for AW Test-Dell-XPS---The-Next-Level-For-AW-As-Brand

 

Wait....Just confirmed? So he didn't even know the specs of.......?

Am I missing something here?

I mean in all seriousness, it's like selling a car and not knowing if it's an auto transmission or a manual. Let alone not knowing how many gears it has.

 

It's not easy when you have to carry two hats AW + XPS = Mr. Azor

Alienware is here. Buried and DEAD !!


See. TRIPOD

@iunlock Maybe the reason he and DELL went for TRIPOD design!!

 

Not only is it bad as not knowing the specs, its that he is THE BOSS, as in the head honcho who should know all. Yet he doesnt. This small simple statement actually highlights what alienware has become internally, and it shows.

 

Yes he is the boss and should be updated. He guaranteed also that all batches of these flawed AWbooks had optimized TRIPOD heatsink as of December 7. Aka fixed the max temperatures and uneven core temp. Something that was not true. Yes, Alienware is a sinking...

 

LOL, sinking ship. Yikes. To be fair, at the end of the day the new line of AW has almost all the boxes checked with the exception of a tri-retarded mounting design+HS design flaw that has caused and is causing temp issues out of the box, however, with some work it is a well rounded machine. The AW does have more check boxes than any other brand when you consider all the categories.

Who will be the first to step up with a Ryzen powered gaming laptop I wonder? - The funny thing is, those like Apple are in bed with AMD so...how funny would it be to see Apple come out with a surprise ROLF. Although one would have to run boot camp (works flawlessly) and/or if Vulkan ever makes it past the Great Wall of Monopoly from the likes of M$ and NVIDIA.

 

You forgot the M.2 2242 slot in such a huge chassis the fact that they couldn't fit a full size 3rd M.2 slot is pretty pathetic. If they fix the heatsink design and go LGA and thicker with better cooling I'd consider their products. Otherwise @Papusan is right - they are a sinking ship.

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Ah yes, the useless what I call, "mini me m.2 slot."

Granted, I have more than enough space with the Samsung 1TB 960 Pro, Samsung 1TB 850 Pro and an extra full size m.2 slot, but wasted space is wasted space with that mini m.2 slot. SMH

Also, as much as we want to support those who are offering LGA laptops, unless they up their game in build quality, keyboard, trackpad and crippled bios (Saver being: Prema), those ODM's are too a sinking ship.

To be honest, IMO the most likely to bring about a change in offering us what we want is MSI at the moment. AW is done with lga and that's sad news, but according to what the horse's mouths have said...there just isn't enough of a market to produce another AW18. - Heck I forgot to mention HP ROFL. As funny as it is, HP is more likely to roll out with something than Dell. Moral of the story, chances are slim to none.

 

Maybe they will be first with Ryzen. But not in desktop design!! 100% BGA. Why should Azor skip thin chassis design and the TRIPOD cpu heatsink design? You can't use this heatsink design for desktop processors And "THE RESULTS IS A LOWER QULITY SYSTEMS" as @Alienware-Frank said!!


@ThePerfectStorm YOO forgot only TWO ram slots. This in a 17 inches chasssis!!

 

I agree, MSI are our best bet. The 16L13 is proof that they can do it, now I'm just waiting for a 17" version. They have far better build quality than other LGA offerers, better QC and better cooling.

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You know, in my spare time, ive taken a long deep think about the viability of these graphics amplifiers and all.
While they do sound like a neato idea and all the power to manufacturers if they want to continue to innovate and make them, but i cant help but feel its a redundant product. The box is so big you might as well have an actual desktop at home and a laptop.

This lead me to my second epiphane. Most people who have an external graphics amplifier want the convenience of having just "one" computer, and "one" source of all their files and info etc.
What if instead of manufacturers reinventing the wheel and make external graphics systems, what if the harddrive companies made a multi linkable harddrive that also functions as a usb of sorts.

What i mean in this system, is that you plug the laptop (which would have a port of some sort), and it can connect to the desktop (using a similar port), and then as you use the desktop it treats the laptop's harddrive as its own internal harddrive.
In this way, it can be like using the same computer but then you have all the benefits of a desktop while still having "one computer".


Of course this is just basically a shower thought of mine, if such a system exists out there i would love to find out more info

 

I think graphics amplifiers will be viable when there is a non-proprietary port that can output full PCIe x16 bandwidth.

Interesting idea with the hard drives, though.

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Haha thanks, i was thinking it would be a bit interesting and might be a valid new forefront if seagate/etc want to pursue it.

These days though i dont know if there is an actual port that can really sustain a pcie16 bandwidth. Alienware tried to do some proprietary voodoo which i would imagine should be more capable than universal standards and even then they couldnt do it. Nowadays we have tb3 which is quite close and can generally keep up with gpu's unless you have something ridiculous like a titan x pascal, and even then the bottleneck isnt too huge.

It may be another two years or so before we get or even see a port that can externally run a x16 speed lane

 

Turn it around. Why can't every single ODM / OEM's rather offer upgradeable graphics for your laptop instead of forcing on you a big graphics amplifier + graphics card? Laptops use already desktop graphics... And You still need to use same processor. We need to come back to what we had before!!

 

Alienware ended up with a crippled x4 port. I think TB4/TB5 will be the ones that finally make eGPU a good choice. ATM, with TB3, they are an interesting concept but I would not invest in one myself. To each their own, though. IIRC, MSI had a proprietary x16 connection for the GS30, though that required resting it on a giant GPU enclosure, and its dual-core processor crippled that concept.

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You're right, and trust me, I would love for easily upgradable notebook GPUs and CPUs (with my usual pre-requisites of build quality, cooling, keyboard quality, etc.), but the way the industry is heading, eGPU is just more likely to get backed.

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I foresee the future having different docking stations where we dock our uber crazy tablets into...

Pretty soon everything is going so thin we won't have anything left....lol

 

Hi All,

I was wondering what would be the best nvme drive to get for the laptop. The laptop comes with 128gb but I do not think this is enough, can I just buy another drive and install it alongside the existing ssd also would I have to configure it as a raid 0? Please could someone let me know and also recommend a drive?

I have been looking at this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-NV...=1488190714&sr=8-3&keywords=512gb+ssd+m2&th=1

Thank you

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