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I'm currently at work now so I'll get to you guys again once I'm at home. I think not doing anything right now should be ok. I turned off the laptop for now. I'll take a picture of the BIOS once I get home. Thank you so much for your help man.

 

Have a nice day at work, hopefully someone will be immediately available here for you when you get home. Good luck

 

By the way I want to ask you guys something. Is playing games on ultra with the GPU temps at 70-75°C normal? I was playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare, a 2014 game and a graphics card game, and the temps were hovering at mid 70s. This is without OC on the GPU and 4.0Ghz OC on CPU. Is this normal? Thanks!

 

I played COD Modern Warfare remastered edition too and yes It's 100% normal temps with Stock TIM and after I re-pasted with Kryo temps always stayed under 70....

 

don't do a thing!! we can solve this easily

 

tha'ts not right. update to the latest XTU pls and try again: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU-

 

Huh - all my older, perhaps slimmer laptops did 90 - 92C when pushed and my recent GT70 does about 85C which I consider as a well tolerated figure. And you ask about mid 70...

 

yes man, what do you expect it to run at 50C????????? those temps are perfectly fine

 

With my previous laptop (MSI GT72 2QE - 4710HQ), I got a BSOD while OC the CPU to 4GHZ and not enough voltage. This BSOD break my system SSD (under warranty)

 

No, it didn't

It was completely recoverable, make sure you realize that next time it happens.

It's a common occurrence when OC'ing or undervolting - you need to schedule a checkdisk after every crash - when it reboots that's the first thing I do, then either at next reboot or crash it automatically checks and fixes anything wrong at the next start up.

If you just let it go, without fixing it, and install / uninstall - writing to that disk - it will eventually BSOD and may need a bootable installer to run the Repair to fix the boot.

It can also be the BIOS settings got corrupted and defaults were restored - it's less often, but it can happen. You just need to boot into the BIOS and put the settings back correctly - load optimized defaults and then set the boot device, and F10 save and reboot.

You didn't need to RMA the laptop... don't feel bad, lots of people do this.

 

hmscott,

i got to ask, are'nt you from asus forum? i'm pretty sure i met you there few years ago. back in the day i had the asus G751JY with some issues and you helped me a lot.

 

yes hmscott was an ASUS fan now he is an MSI fan

 

I knew it!!!

 

I fixed his laptop, somehow the boot SSD got disabled after the steep undervolt he did. We reset the BIOS to default and he booted just fine as the SSD got re-enabled again

 

@Phoenix Thanks for helping me (again and again and again) bro Yeah, the SSD somehow got disabled and it won't show in the Macrium Reflect that we made. Somehow resetting the BIOS to default made it enter into the Windows (smiled ear to ear when this happened LOL). Thanks again man! Got a question to you though buddy. I still don't know what caused the error. Was it because of the undervolt? Or was it because I ran Aida64 one after another to try if my undervolt was stable or not?

 

too much undervolt........ no worries..

don't undervolt more than -50mV anymore

Each CPU is different. I can undervolt by -100mV and it's stable. All depends on the Silicon Lottery which determines at what voltage can a CPU run at the selected clock speed stable.

 

Yeah man, not going through that again ever!

 

Hey man, this is what me and Phoenix did (load and optimize defaults) and it worked like a charm. BTW, when you said "you need to schedule a checkdisk after every crash", how can I do this? Is there a software I need to download for this? Thanks man!

 

@Phoenix Bro, just bought the SVP 4 Pro but I can't install it using the link given by SVP support team. It just shows this message:



Any idea what's causing this bro?

 

call me on Skype d00d

 

I was also at 85 with my GT70, I stopped checking the temps after awhile and that thing is still working. I still like to keep my GT73 sub 80 though, and so far I have been able to do this but I have yet to play this in warmer conditions so I will work on under volting in a month or so. I'm going toi write down page 481 in case I run int a problem like @HardCoreGamer4Life had.

 

Hi again!

I dont know what to do with my MSI GT73VR 6RE. As I wrote in the thread it seems like the cpu fan is faulty and is producing a scraping or metallic sound. I contacted the reseller and all they can offer me is to return the computer and I cant get a new one from somewhere else to the bargain price I got it for. So I am left with:

1. Return the computer and get a new one with lower performance for the same price.

2. Try to replace the fan myself.

I am working with computers alot and should be able to make it but I am afraid to tinker with a brand new expensive laptop and dont want to loose warranty.

Br J

 

As I posted the solution of CPU Fan noise multiple times too in this thread....you will not loose warranty and replacing fan is very easy with this laptop...

 

@Jaxione

The fans are easy to get to, I removed mine to check the model numbers and see how much dust had collected. 5 screws to remove the cover then a few more to remove the fans and the shrouds around them.

 

Follow @Shehary instructions and open a support request with MSI. They will send you a new fan. Super easy to replace yourself and it doesn't void the warranty (despite what the sticker says)

 

Hi guys
I was with Asus ever since they've released G73. Just a week ago I've got rid of G752VM for various reasons and I think it's time to try something new. I've always liked MSI looks but mixed reviews stopped me from a purchase . Now, I'm really digging GT 73and GS 73 series with 1070. Leaning towards GT series cause of G-SYNC. Not planning to play with voltage or OC at all. What I want to know is how is the build quality and driver support comparing to Asus G?
How is the quality of 120hz screen? Any light bleeding?
How do you update VBIOS? Same USB procedure as regular BIOS update? How is the support overall? The last thing I want is to switch and than regret it.
Thank you all

 

GT73 Screen has some level of light bleed and according to MSI, it's normal with their lineup

Updating / Flashing BIOS required USB but vBIOS and Ec Firmware Flashing / Update doesn't....

Quality of 120Hz screen awesome though it's not IPS, it's TN panel but excellent TN panel.

Build Quality is also somewhere between best and excellent.....

Cleaning / re-pasting / upgrading hardware also super easy....

GTX 1070 temps are excellent and over all laptop cooling is awesome....

cannot give you comparison between GT73 and ASUS G....

Drivers update not frequent may be GT73 doesn't required frequent update..only see few updates after a month or two....

Support is somewhere between Good and Best......

 

Even if you switch from ASUS to ACER you would be happy.......


if you want a laptop that works, avoid anything from ASUS.


click on the spoiler:

Spoiler: My ASUS Laptops Experience

1) Returned my ASUS G751JY



2) ASUS = 0 quality, it's a matter of luck if you get a 100% working ASUS laptop, or any piece of hardware made by ASUS.



3) All the latest and previous last 3 Gen ASUS ROG laptops have USB port issues, it's all over their ROG forums



4) And old post I made 1 year back.......



All ASUS laptops has a problem with the left USB 3.0 Ports. You plug in a USB 3.0 HDD to the left top or left bottom ports and it will randomly keep disconnecting. That is for all G750 series, JX,JW,JH,JZ,JS, you name it. don't believe me, just hang around on the ROG forums and see the jokes of problems they have. pathetic for the amount of money you pay. problems with screens, auto dimming problem, contrast problem.


I wouldn't use an ASUS laptop anymore even if they gave it to me for free! cheap Taiwanese crap!


Did I forget to mention...


their implementation of Optimus is messed up...it is very tricky to force games to use your nVIDIA GPU unless you do a lot of settings and even then users on their forums complain that the freakin' games are using the Intel HD Graphics! LOL! horrible!


you want Testimony ? Please take the time to read this:


why ASUS? because people who buy ASUS cannot afford Clevo, no other reason on earth...that's a fact...I was one of them...


First laptop, 2 years ago..


G73Sw:


bought it and ran home like a little child wanting to see my lights in the chiclet keyboards....ooops...no lights...tried all driver updates..BIOS update...nope..


Called ASUS, they told me to bring it to the service center it's an easy fix!! whaaaat?? I buy a 2000 USD laptop and go to the service center next day? oh well..I did and they activated it with their BIOS tweak utility that they don't give to customers! great quality control Taiwanese Engineers! send out laptops for sale that don't work properly as advertised...


after 1 week...the screen started giving me fuzzy images...closing/opening the screen lid fixed the problem....wow!! what did I buy? a 1990 Toyota Corolla or a brand new gaming laptop??


They said they need to replace my screen! wow!! the laptop can't last a week without being repaired! i fought for a refund and got it after a long hassle...


next laptop...


ASUS G75VW,


ASUS decided to remove their awesome creative sound blaster audio chipset and put some cheap VIA audio chipset which made the subwoofer act like a center speaker rather than a subwoofer..


also..I only had the option to get the matte screen...oh well...people say matte is good...right? NOPE! not on ASUS! the ASUS matte screens look as if someone spilled grease all over them. very grainy image especially if you look at a white screen such as these forums or Google..if you look close..you can see the pixels of colorful rainbows! again shocked in awe for this cheap crap!


So I called ASUS complaining about the quality of the screen, they offered to change it to the 3D screen not coz I want 3D, but only because that is the only screen they have that is Glossy..


took the laptop...2 days..I get a call...sorry sir, we changed your screen, but fried your motherboard....we have no spare motherboards...so if you pay $500 USD we can give you a G750JX instead or you can wait till god knows when till we get a motherboard from Taiwan...


so I got the G750JX...


very bad driver support....ASUS released the win 8.1 drivers after 6 months of win 8.1 was released...anyone who upgraded while having the old drivers either got a non booting laptop after the upgrade due to outdated bluetooth/wifi drivers or had horrible problems....


next comes the 2D performance of their GTX770M....there is something not right about it! 3D was fine and performed as it should...but 2D was glitchy and choppy...imagine even a simple game of solitaire..the motion of the cards wasn't fluid...I used to get jealouse when I see my friends' Intel HD Graphics perform so smoothly in the Windows environment while my brand new gaming laptop cries in 2D...opening tabs in firefox...wow..another plethora of jerkiness / slow motion


next...they put cheap Atheros WLAN chipsets which cannot connect above 72 MBPS!! wow! had to pay 50 USD and get a Bigfoot Wireless N-Killer from the US and pay customs just to have a laptop perform like a normal computer


next.... USB 3.0 problems..


basically, I had to connect my USB drives to the right ports and the left ones were kept for my mouse and printer? why? because ASUS cannot produce a piece of hardware that functions right! they claim all ports are USB 3.0 and they are all in blue color...BIG LIE! it wasn't only me, I posted this on the ROG forums and every single one of the members verified the same!


I can't find my thread that I started, but here are 2 examples I quickly grabbed:


Asus G750 USB 3.0 Ports not working with some things


and


Is it normal that the top left USB port is very slow?


ASUS? HELLL NO!!


Worst case scenario, save some money and wait, then get a real gaming laptop from Alienware and be happy for life! rather than bite your fingers after you buy your ASUS


A quick Google search on the G750JX presents exactly what I experienced! I've probably formatted that laptop over 200 times twice daily just trying to make it work but every time some quirk happens...


USB 3.0 sooooo Slow on ASUS g750 jx [Solved] - Asus - Laptop Tech Support


USB problems G750 JX


Just got a G750JX, and with it, a whole suite of problems..


Asus ROG: G750JX-RB71 Screen Ghosting..


http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/727019-big-green-float-g750jx-screen.html


G750JX Cheap display, horizontal lines - www.hardwarezone.com.sg


Brand New Asus G750JX-RB71 has been crashing repeatedly


G750JX - 1day old - Black Screen and not Booting

See my review here: MSI GT73VR 7RF Titan Pro-425 Review By Phoenix

 

Yes, and contrary to what @Phoenix said I haven't given up on Asus at all, in fact I'm always open to good laptops from any vendor.

@Phoenix had a bad experience with Asus, but I never have. I've had the same quality interactions with Asus as I've had with MSI.

I had an Asus W90Vp-X1 18" Crossfire laptop way back when, and before and after a run of other Asus laptops.

When MSI brought back the 18" form factor in an SLI 980m I upgraded from my Asus G750JH to the MSI GT80 SLI-263, and it's still an awesome laptop.

The new Asus G700VI and Asus GX800VH are great laptops too, I'd be happy with either one.

For a single 1080 in a 17.3" laptop, I think the GT73VR is currently the best price / performance laptop, with the most consistent out of the box quality I've seen, so I can heartily recommend MSI's laptop's too.

Glad to meet you again, welcome to NBR

 

It's the chkdsk supplied with Windows, and you can schedule a disk check at the next boot by right clicking on the C: drive icon in the Windows file explorer, select Properties, then click on the Tools tab in the dialog that comes up, then click Error Checking, and check for errors - it won't be able to do the C drive while the OS is running, so it will ask to schedule a disk check at the next boot, do that and then close all the dialogs.

You can then reboot to check the disk right away - sometimes I do this - otherwise I go back to work and let it check the disk later - a bit riskier, but if it crashes I'm already set to check the disk when it boot's back up

 

It's not that bad, it's part of the work of OC'ing and tuning, to be able to recover from glitches that happen along the way.

Will something similar happen again? Probably, but now you know what to do, and what else can be done - Repair disk/boot booted from Windows installer.

We all go through it to some degree or another, but once you get the sequence down - exceptions and solutions, it goes very quickly - no drama required

 

Call MSI and use the warranty then.


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QFT

 

hello guys
i have a gt73vr 7rf 4k
1problem the wifi connection is very slow..
2problem
everytime i m listening music at the end of the song i listen a type of "puff" from the left speaker...
i put the new drivers from the official page.. but the problem is the same
thaks

 

My laptop has shipped, it should be with me on Thursday
Hope UPS will not loose it like DPD did ...
I have also checked the Amazon page on my account and it indeed says that I am covered until 2019.

 

Thanks for your feedback guys)
Seeing the amount and quality of help that Phoenix does around here - makes me feel safer already)
And knowing that Hmscott is here, also makes me comfy)
@hmscott we know each other from ROG forums. DeltaActual here
Cheers

 

Better than the laptop itself the support you will get from us. I advice you to buy it from HIDevolution

 

@Phoenix
I had emailed MSI support a couple of days ago stating the problem. They emailed me back today instructing me to flash the BIOS, then the VBIOS, and finally install the Nvidia VGA driver from their site.
Since I haven't flashed a BIOS in my entire life, could you walk me through it? Appreciate all the help.
Thanks

 

I have the 4K-225 model. The screen is B173ZAN01.0

 

You will never ever regret it shifting to MSI man. As you've said, @Phoenix helps everybody in here and I can really attest to that. He has spent a lot of hours with me tweaking my laptop and repairing/removing unwanted files, applications, softwares and a lot of bloatware crap that I don't need (twice already, after getting it and after that OCing incedent happened). He also helped me install a lot softwares specially installing a NOD32 as my antivirus with SVP 4 Pro (will make good use of the 120hz monitor you have when watching movies, really good app). My laptop's now like his in terms of programs and some settings for faster performance. And if you buy it from HIDevolution, you'll get the best of both worlds since not only will you get a full support from Phoenix, you'll also get a fully checked and customized laptop for better performance and lesser chance of issues out of the box. And wait there's more, the people here really knows their stuff man. You'll really get all the help you can here when you need it.

 

Hey guys, I know that to lower the temps of the CPU under load when Overclocking, I can undervolt it. But if I want to lower the temps of my GPU, what can I do without doing anything to the fans? Thanks guys!

 

Interested in this as well. @Phoenix what do you got?


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What made you choose the Pro, over the EVO?

The 1TB EVO is less than $100 more than the 512GB Pro, on some sites.

 

@specialist7 this solve my issue with my gpu's after i di some crazy Things in the bios.
i can't believe it...

And thank you to @ Shehary for your help

 

@Phoenix Are you online bro? I checked the link HIDevolution gave me for the free Bundle Game with the VPN.AC connected to a US VPN and it's still not working bro. Just emailed them and waiting for their reply now.

 

He should be glad he did not crash due too low voltage and OC with older AW17R1

 

Good point @Papusan !! , @HardCoreGamer4Life, that kicks in the Transformer mode, be careful!

Spoiler: Laptop in Disguise...

 

Yeah, got quite lucky that it only needed a reset of the BIOS.

What a nice Transformer you've got there lol

 

A reset of bios on the 2013/14 mod AW17 was not just that simple

 

download the BIOS file, extract it to a folder, then place the folder in the root of C:

go to BIOS, select UEFI BIOS update, then select that BIOS file, you will get many directories, just keep trying one after the other until you find the one which contains that BIOS folder
start the update, once it's done, it will reboot back into BIOS

once you are back in BIOS, reset BIOS to defaults

now save and exit then immediately shutdown the system by holding the power button for 5 seconds

once you shutdown, remove the power cable for 30 secs to perform an NVRAM reset then plug it back in

enter BIOS again and configure your settings as they were

enjoy