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nothing you can do other than repasting the GPU for lowering temps as the voltage for the 10XX series is locked for now......

 

For those of you who haven't seen it yet

 

I am at least happy that ever since I switched to MSI, I see you on the MSI forum more than Clevo forum even

Soon we will convert you to an MSI Gaming Team Member

Please consult with the wife you will have a superior keyboard and screen and since you live in a snow igloo, you can overclock the 7820HK to 5.0 GHz

 

I NEVER touch welded on i7 I need to follow up what Yooo do my friend. In case yooo need help Hope it's ok

 

Always follow t3h Ph03n!x

 

I can sit still. Not post if yooo prefer

 

Who said that? I said always follow the Phoenix

 

You should follow me as well bro. Usually I have updated and quite interesting posts

 

Not quite.
In MSI Afterburner you can manually set GPU core clock with the voltage you want. GTX 1080 in my experience is stable 1860 MHz @ 0.75 V without freezing or any artifacts.

 

I'm using MSI Afterburner 4.3 (last version) but I cant set the voltage. The voltage is locked as Phoenix said before. How did u unlock the voltage?

 

That's unfortunate. I don't was hoping for magic further than the repaste. Already have liquid ultra on both CPU and GPU


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care to share idle & under load temps of CPU / GPU after re-pasting with liquid ultra...

 

Yeah, I'll move to an area of the house with better airflow and put those up. My desk currently has a backing which I suspect recycles already warmed air back into the system. Never gone over 77 on the gpu under those circumstances though.


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ctrl+f if I remember right to bring up the curve where you can manually adjust core clock+voltage.

 

Newer GT73VR-426 owner here, after going through the trade-in program and getting the replacement for my beloved GT72; I am not regretting choosing MSI for my first gaming laptop brand, not one bit.

One thing's perturbing me, though. For some reason, the connection seems to like dropping for no reason, and I have to keep kicking off the wireless and connecting again. Anyone else having this trouble? My Dominator never had this trouble (unless the campus WiFi was being a brat that day).

 

If you have killer wireless than yes it's an issue but only related to drivers and updating the latest drivers from killer wireless website will resolve the issue....

 

Did you update to latest killer drivers? They should have fixed it.

 

@Phoenix
I updated my BIOS, no issues. So far, so good.
I ran Time Spy and Fire Strike and got pretty good scores. Gsync On. No OC. Fire Strike I ran with cooler boost on for the full duration. Time Spy auto fan mode.

What do you think? I ran Time Spy twice with gsync on and off. With Gsync, my score was about 20 points better. So I decided to run Fire Strike with Gsync.

I tried out a few games and got buttery smooth fps. Anyways, do you think I should update my VBIOS and VGA drivers. Because it seems that flashing the BIOS has solved the issue and I don't want to risk it.
Thanks

 

Can't really show before temps since the pasting is already done. But here's the idle temps

Anyone suggest a good application for load temps for comparison? Something someone else can test against

Ran time spy with HWINFO in the background. All results are from my questionable airflow desk. Fans on auto.


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Hey guys, is it better to set the fps at 120 fps with v-sync on? I've played COD Advance Warfare again and the fps goes all over the place always larger than 160fps even getting to 260fps with v-sync off. But when I turn v-sync on the refresh rate locks at 119.7 fps. Which of the two is better? Thanks! These settings are both with g-sync on.

 

I have done a lot of testing on this and I have found that there is input lag with Vsync on so I cap the FPS with RTSS at 120 and have both Gsync and Vsync off. This works well on my laptop but on my desktop I have the cap at the refresh rate of 144 and if I don't use Gsync it gets bury so you results may vary, post results.

 

Thanks man, I'll try this. Since it's only a 120hz monitor, is having a 120fps cap on RTSS is better than going higher?

 

The 120 cap is supposed to prevent the tearing that occurs when there is a difference between the FPS and the refresh rate. When I play BF1 online I turn the settings down to have a solid 120 and it's smooth. If you want higher quality settings I would turn Gsync on so when the FPS does drop off you wont get the tearing.

 

What do you mean there is a difference between the FPS and the refresh rate? Like having a monitor with 120hz refresh rate and the game's FPS is going higher than that like 230fps for example? Also, did you change anything in your RTSS settings other than the Framerate Limit?

 

There was a good Youtube video that had a demo on how Vsync worked, It explained the fast setting really well. the higher FPS can cause blurriness and Vsync fixes it for higher rates and Gsync fixes it for lower rates. Vsync causes input lag which was driving me crazy so I just changed the FPS setting in RTSS so I get the smoothness without the lag, you can set Vsync to fast and there is less lag but the card is always maxed out so by limiting the FPS to 120 my card is in the %70 use range, reducing temps and wear and tear.

 

Can you explain to me how to see the input lag? I can't seem to see the difference between V-Sync on with 119.9 fps and settiing the Framerate Limit in RTSS to 120 fps. Also the temps are just about the same. Thanks!

 

Ran TimeSpy test....following are temps result....re-pasted with Thermal Grizzly Kryo....last re-paste 2 months ago or more....



Idle Temps



Don't be disappointed on GPU temps comparison....this has been discussed before....Liquid Metal is not performing well on GPU where if you compare CPU temps...you will see significant difference and it has been proven too that LM makes major difference in CPU temp VS any other TIM on this laptop...

only question I have is why your laptop GPU Core / Memory clock is not idle and showing full speed in dragon center...do you have multiple external display connected....?

If you move your laptop around much....get rid of LM on GPU....try Grizzly Kryo or ICD....

@Donald@HIDevolution confirmed that in GT73VR If GPU re-pasted with LM, it tends to get out and try to wander around where it shouldn't and can cause a damage and it will not make any difference or help to bring the GPU temps lower.....

@Phoenix highly suggest ICD where I highly suggest Grizzly Kryo.....something on which we never agree......

@DukeCLR @Atma @Maineiac12 another comparison between LM & Kyro and prove that LM doesn't perform well on GPU....

 

off: GPU Runs hotter, may notice tearing, less input lag
on: GPU Runs cooler, prevents tearing (if any), slightly higher input lag

Its mostly preference on the user based on some of those variables.

 

Yeah seeing the difference too, but not with v-sync on. Like what @DukeCLR said, I've set the Framerate Limit to 120 in RTSS. How about Supersampling, do you turn it on? If so, do you set it as x2, x4 or x8?

 

Looks like I'll be doing a repaste. And no, I'm not using an external monitor.


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I was playing BF1 and I was getting frustrated when I would loose a fight where I clearly had the jump on the guy. Then one day I started A BF1 match with Vsync and Gsync off, I had forgotten to turn them back on after running a benchmark, There was tearing but I was like superman, every opponent I met I was able to kill, after turning Gsync and Vsync on this went away. This all led to my exploration of competitive settings which led me to turn down most settings to get a stable high FPS. During this research I read references to input lag and after reading about FPS limiting form @hmscott I decided to try limiting the FPS with RTSS. It has worked like a charm.

All that being said I love eye candy on single player games like DOOM and TW3.

@HardCoreGamer4Life I suggest googling "competitive setting" for the game you are playing, there will be many different methods to get a balance between quality vs performance. As for supersampling, on my laptop it's on SMAA , on my desktop it off. My laptop is packed away but I'll try to get it out and post my BF1 settings, I already posted some in an image recently if you can turn those up somehow.

 

When pulling off GPU heatsink for re-paste....don't forget to unplug the battery...you can thank me later......

one member tried Grizzly Condactanaut LM twice and the GPU temp result same and comparison almost same as above....

You should look into GPU Core / Memory clock why GPU running at full speed if not in use....I only see this behavior when 2 or 3 external display connected.....for idle clock / memory speed you can check my dragon center snap shot when GPU not in use....

 

MSI Just re-released the same version of True Color but with a different date, heh, same buggy version, you run it, and it says error and never starts up properly so you can disable the desktop partition:

 

Some background apps use GPU, even if they arent per say 3D accelerated


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Is grizzly kryo conductive? I think I am done playing with LM pastes for the time being.


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no, it's non conductive....safe to use....easy to remove....

 

Sounds good to me. Thanks, I'll post my new results once I have the paste. And I'll turn off all my background apps this time.


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Does anyone know if a power extension cable or a longer power brick to laptop connector cable exists that would work for the gt73vr 6rf? The whip from the power brick to the laptop connector is rediculously short.

 

Did you set it globally in NVIDIA Control Panel or just in the games you play?

 

@Phoenix Did you check my pm to you bro?

 

yes and I forwarded it to MSI. Thanks for your feedback and detailed explanation.

Regarding why your settings are not sticking in the BIOS. That is because when you set the Dragon Center to Comfort plan, it sets the core clocks back to default and it is directly linked to XTU which is linked to the BIOS so you see the settings change.

If you keep it in Turbo plan in the MSI Dragon Center, the settings will remain but don't worry about that too much. We've set the undervolt and configured the speeds when on Turbo so don't worry too much

 

No problem bro, glad I could help. Did you also read my question to you about my BIOS settings not sticking bro?

 

check the previous post, I edited it now

 

I only set Gsync and Vsync in NVCP, I set the limit with RTSS and the rest is done in each games settings.

 

Continuously seeing internet activity in Dragon Center since last 4 hours.....another major windows update on it's way.....

 

what does Dragon Center have to do with Windows updates?

 

I think he means that Dragon Center is showing network activity, which means a Windows update is downloading.

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@ThePerfectStorm exactly...for me it's the only way to know if windows is downloading an update...nothing shows in Windows Update until an update is downloaded and ready to install....

 

You can open the Performance tab of Task Manager, go into Performance Monitor, and go into the Network section, and watch the "Address" processes are opening IP connections... this can be quite enlightening - or confusing - where is that data going???

 

Wikileaks would blame the CIA.


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