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    *** The Official MSI GT75 Owners and Discussions Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jun 23, 2017.

  1. JeanLegi

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    You Need an free Sync Display but you know this :bigyes: . But i have an MSI Optix MAG27QC free-Sync external Display in use since several month . If you want you can sent me your gt75 and i try to fix your g-Sync issue :biggrin:.
     
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    Why does the MSI already use the same case for the 3rd time? or 4th already? Do you think that it is one of their best designs?
     
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    @Falkentyne :oops:
    Massive re-design :D
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    Ikr, needs slim bezels forsure. The alienware area-51m is looking tempting
     
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    404 on my side.

    Dead due to the non standard MXM gpu format on the incoming RTX cards?
     
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    From there:
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    That is more or less like the 1080 in the 16L13, and the heatsink image from the GT75 doesn't seem all that different, wait for more images/reviews is what I would say..

    And why is MSI dead? Because no more GPU's from MSI into Clevos/Alienwares/MSI(not supposed to have them)/Whatever?

    Like any other manufacturer is even caring about MXM upgradeability :/
     
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    Does seem "much", I would say some 8mm wider , and it lost the small "wing" on the right side, but the inverted die compared to the more normal MXM is more similar to the 16L13 than to what the 1070/other MXM GPU's look like, I doubt MSI will redesign the GT75 mobo(to re-locate the MXM slot), given that they keep basic chassis formats for a long, long time.
     
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    3rd? 4th?

    The GT75 has been around for exactly 1 GPU generation.
     
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    I was thinking about this too. GT73 technically lasted a single gen, and was suceeded by the better GT75 variation. It's a good design and until there is something to improve, it will remain for a while.
     
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    Hi,

    I own a new MSI GT75 Titan( coming from GT73VR).

    Please, I need a screenshot of the EC RAM from RW Everything from a GT75 Titan (not VR) equipped with a 1080.

    Thank you
     
  16. JeanLegi

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    MSI should stop sli for gt Series except gt83 and put in an 3rd Fan to Support cooling of the gpu and cpu. And then we have some nice taptops. But lets See what will Happen.
     
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    And where would you put that 3rd fan exhaust?

    The center back is used for IO ports, and on the sides there is no space to mount then without re-designing a lot of the chassis if not everything..
     
  18. JeanLegi

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    My thoughts so far would be to move the gpu to the open space for the second gpu new mainboard layout i think is possible to get free space at the current location of the gpu.
    remove the second fan exhaust on the marked side to get some space for the i/o ports.
    put the 10GB LAN Adapter next to the cpu or a little nearer to the cpu.
    put the fan at the location of the gpu und create an larger exhaust from the left to the middle (maybe active cooling for the 10Gb chip possible).
    the hs from the gpu could get directly to the current fan and to the middle fan same for the cpu.
    and in my dreams the cooling for the nvme ssd is connected as well to the fan.

    thoughts.jpg
     
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    To me it looks like this new RTX 2070 / 2080 MXM layout has different mounting points and the card itself would interfere with the CPU and RAM if attempted to fit in the current GT73 / GT75 / WT75. So my guess is they moved the MXM slot on the new GT75 slightly towards the fan.

    Hopefully the reason why the GT63 / GT83 refresh has not been announced yet is because they are making a RTX 2070 MXM card for those models that fits the existing flipped GTX 1080 form factor used. If that were the case such a card could also work in the Tornado F5 and WT75 (with a new heatsink) in theory. It looks like GDDR6 cannot be packed as tightly as GDDR5, so likely the current GTX 1070 form factor would not work for anything more than a RTX 2060.

    Just theories but I am hopeful we can at least get a RTX 2070 as an upgrade option in a few months.
     
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    I am pretty sure the GT83 is DOA. the RTX2070 does not allow "sli" or nvlink, so it won't go into GT83, and I am not sure they want/can put dual RTX2080s there.
     
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    the new free-sync support seems to work with the games i tested so far. CoD BO 3 and AC Origins.
    - G-Sync Pendulum is working
     
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  22. low9

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    Nobody?

    I just want to know what is written in the E3 register. I have a 230w PSU and in my case, it's "20".

    Please, any help would be appreciated !
     
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    Sorry, in these cases we depend on owners with the particular model you have. since you have a 230w PSU, you are using a GTx 1070?
     
  24. Falkentyne

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    PSU has nothing to do with this. It's video card + CPU only.

    1070 should be "20" in GT75 Titan (it's 80 in GT75VR Kaby, 90 in GT73VR Kabylake, 10 in GT73VR Skylake, 7820HK models)
    1080 should be 21, but if the EC has the old SKU's, 91 may even work.
    91 in GT75VR and GT73VR (Kabylake), 11 in GT73VR skylake).
     
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    If your machine comes with a 240W PSU then it is not using the GTX1080, or so it seems from most manufacturers (at least MSI). Meaning all lower end GPUs shipped with 240w PSU and only the higher end put the 330W. I don't think there is a GT7X model with a 1080 and a 240w PSU. I could be entirely wrong tho.

    You can use a 80w PSU if you wanted, of course it wouldn't be able to drive the system when taxed, but you could charge the battery at least :p my comment was more akin to... if you have a 240w psu you have a 1070 which means you have a 20 in your register for a GT75.

    You are the master of registers for all of these machines, I am glad you can help other users :)
     
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  26. JeanLegi

    JeanLegi Notebook Evangelist

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    Nope your are right mate!
    GT75VR with 1080 330W
    GT75VR with SLI 1070 2x230W
    GT75VR with 1070 230W

    geez.. saw the new spec on the global MSI hompage.. god damn it :D
    @Ultra Male more then enough ports for you? ;)

    1x M.2 SSD slot (NVMe PCIe Gen3)
    2x M.2 SSD Combo slot (NVMe PCIe Gen3 / SATA)
    2xx M.2 SSD slot (NVMe PCIe Gen3) , support Intel M.2 NVMe SSD Device only
    1x 2.5" SATA HDD
     
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    Thank you man ! Battery doesn't seem to drain anymore with my 330w PSU.

    BTW, the i7 8850h performs really well : 1364cb score
     
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    Finally decided to upgrade myself from my GP73. Got my new GT75 with the 8750H, and a GTX1080. The -056 configuration. It isn't perfect, but I love the other details of it so far.
    The single stick of 16GB of ram seems stupid to me.
    The keyboard is amazing.
    The cooling system on this thing is beastly.
    The screen is the same exact one as my GP73, but it is very high quality.
    Just love the laptop for sure. I have now had quite a few MSI laptops, and can say this and the GT80 were my favorites. The keyboards on these are amazing with the very tactile feel of the keys and the feedback I get from them.

    I ordered another stick of ram today. Anyone done a board flip on this particular laptop? The memory is on that side of the motherboard, and I need to get to it to either fill that side, or take the existing stick out and get it into the rear slots.
     
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  29. maxsilver

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    I have the same model as you do. It's an awesome machine, and with a bit of tweaking I find it to be close to perfect.

    I successfully replaced the 1 stick of 16GB of ram on the back side of the motherboard. Instead of placing my 2 new 2x8 GB stick of Kingston Hyper X memory back in those slots, I placed them in the easy to access slots on the front of the motherboard. Whatever you do don't put the new ram stick in the rear of the board, as it will mean you have a do another full teardown if you have any issues with the new memory.

    The job wasn't super hard by any means, but a bit nerve wracking given the amount of disassembly required. Make sure you have a good quality thermal paste replacement on hand. You will need precision screwdrivers at minimum for disassembly, and ideally you will have some plastic disassembly tools available as well for removing the various plastic bits. While you have everything apart it's also worthwhile to take a good close look at the thermal pads on the gpu and cpu as well, might as well replace any damaged pads at this juncture.

    With undervolts on the cpu (I use Intel XTU) and gpu (using MSI Afterburner) I am able to keep the machine cool and quiet, even while gaming. I find if you keep the fans below 3000 RPM noise levels are perfectly reasonable.
     
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    I just got 2x32GB Samsung RAM. M471A4G43MB1 CTD 2666V
    Currently I have 4x16GB Kingston KVR26S19D8 installed so I was considering taking out 2 and replacing them with the 2x32GB.
    I was wondering would it be possible to mix these memory. And if so what would be the memory settings?

    I tried putting them in but gut a strange message in Windows. It can see that I have 96GB of RAM, but it only allows me to use 64GB, the rest is reserver.

    Any tips would be appreciated.
    Andreas
     
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    Simple answer: Manual: Maximum up to 64 GB.
     
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    Then, GT75 8Sx: 128GB Max Capacity...
     
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  33. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    Would one of you guys who has the GTX 1080 , get me the part number for the 6 pin cable that is connect from the gpu to the motherboard.

    I thought I was getting one from my seller.

    I need the part number so it can be easy for me to order from MSI when I go inquire on it. Thanks in advance.
     
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    good luck
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    Just picked up a GT75VR 7RF anyone here have one and if so what does your temps look like under load? I'm a bit worried my cpu is running a bit to hot... thanks!
     
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  36. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

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    Edited: Wrong Thread , But I did just upgraded from a gtx 1070 to a gtx 1080 so my information is valid. lol

    What kind of Temps are you getting? My system idles 36 - 40 Celsius. And when I play some games , it hit mid 60-70 Celsius. I made a custom laptop cooler that it sits on. It has 3 120MM fans cooling the laptop. :D

    I upgraded my GPU to GTX 1080 (with no power connector), along with all new heat sinks.

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    Is that on sport mode? And what processor are you running, I have the 7820HK and a 1080 as well? Under the Heavensward Benchmark I seen my cpu hitting 80ish with Titan Cooler boost, with it off I've seen it spike to 95ish, I think my cpus max temp is 100 ><, video card ran 87ish? I think mine must have a problem.... because I'm not idling that low.
     

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    I have the same CPU and in comfort mode.
     
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    You change the paste? The Factory paste is sometimes dry like an desert.
     
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    I haven't opened it up yet due to the factory seal, I bought it off ebay from another guy and registered it today on MSI they lady on the phone told me I have a year warranty on it? I'm guessing ether clogged up (I blew it out but no dust) or like your saying thermal is dry as hell, if I disable the turbo boost though temps are good, I know its still doing updates and stuff to so no way to know the real idle till it settles down but I still feel its a bit to hot, I had it on my cooling pad to but I don't have the nice 120mm fans like Rengsey above.
     
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    I bought mine off ebay too, but a GT73VR with GTX 1070, but upgraded to a GTX 1080. I don't care for warranty lol. What I noticed is that you might have a single copper heat pipe for VRAM cooling. I upgraded to a two heat pipe. Maybe that helps too ?



    Look at the heat pipe for VRAM. Does your have one or two heat pipe?

    Before upgrade :

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    Upgraded:

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    Two pipes, copper, looks like your upgraded picture. I went ahead and went in and redid the thermal past on it, it seems to be doing better so far, under 50%ish cpu load I'm running 74cish, under load in a game in never went past 82c on sport mode with turboboost running.

    At work I have the Cooler Master NotePal U3 Plus I used to use for my Alienware M18XR2 (rest its soul, gave me 6 years of good service :p) that I might have to modify into something like you have setup with 3x 120mm fans haha.
     
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    I still have mine, I had a 980m running good temps in it but I think my board finally gave up the ghost or that slot is damaged, it won't boot with the card in and I tried a older 5870 in its place and the bios doesn't detect it. Back to the msi though, when your gaming on yours do you have a 4k screen and run in those resolutions or do you have the 120hz 1920x1080? And I'm considering repasting my 1080 as well, I assume I just voided my warranty doing the cpu repaste lol. Also nice on the cooling pad! What fans are you using and what do you use to power the fans? Also did you replace any of the paste / thermal pads in your msi, I assume you did when you did he heatpipe change?
     
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    Remember to also consider ambient temps when you compare your temperatures. Right now I barely get to 70 celsius when gaming, but I am like at 5 celisius ambient temps.

    My max GPU temps have always been in the 80s even in the worst case (GTX1080) like 81, and mostly when pushing 4K gaming. My CPU is usually around 60-70 depending how bad the game needs CPU, but on summer.... I easily got 85 celisus or 90 even, with ambient temps of 37 celsius (100F).

    Besides repasting, remember to undervolt.
     
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    I'd add that I would recommend to always undervolt CPU / GPU and tune for desired performance first, to not only get good baseline readings to compare should you then re-paste, but you might find that software tuning like that will be enough to reduce temperatures to stop thermal throttling.

    If you aren't thermal throttling there really isn't a good reason to re-paste and risk damage or mishap from physically tearing apart your perfectly good working laptop. :)
     
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    I redid the thermal paste on the processor and it seems to have helped quit a bit, when I have the laptop in comfort shift mode the processor under load hottest it hit was 82c, ambient temp in this room is probably 23c ish but the place I'll mainly be using it will have ambient temps of 20c. Graphics card under load though was hitting 85c-86c? I haven't redone the paste on it yet but I know doing the CPU dropped it from hitting the 90's etc. Can I use the msi software to undervolt?
     
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    Easy to use software would probably be Intel XTU and Throttlestop.

    Advanced settings (particularly when you know what you are doing) will be directly in BIOS, but those two will still have the intended effect. As far as I know, no MSI software for the laptop allows undervolting, just basic overclocking.

    I would recommend not using MSI Dragon Center if you are using Throttlestop or intel XTU. There will be conflicts withing settings.
     
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    I try to turn enable fast boot
    But keep restore to disable setting after I save bios config
    What fast boot function?

    Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
     
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    That's what I had with the MSI GT73VR Titan Pro as well. On the GT75 the setting sticks. It's actually even enabled by default.
     
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