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The serial number provided in the helpdesk also doesn't work.. -_- any other ideas friend? =)

 

Too bad the optical bay is SATA II... or is it? o:

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Hello my friends!

I'm thinking of getting this laptop, the one with a single GTX980m and I was wondering if in the future I will have the chance to add another GTX980m to it so I can enjoy sli.

I believe the hardware is exactly the same and I will just get an empty mxm slot but I wanted to confirm with you.

What do you think?

Many thanks for the help!

Best regards,
C.

 

cheaper in long run to get it w/ 2x 980m

 

It's better to save more then get it together since they are discounted when purchased this way.
If you buy single GPU later on then the cost will be higher.

 

Thanks!

So it is possible then, isn't it?

I was planning on adding a second GTX980m in maybe 4-5 years, once the cards have a reduced price (for instance, 580m's today cost around 250-300 euros).

Is is true that the i7 5th gen runs a lot cooler?

Many thanks again!

 

after 4-5 years i believe it better to change notebook at all...maybe a couple in the meanwhile...

 

By the way, I see here that the Titan047 model with a single GPU has no SLI capabilities (a second GPU cannot be added):


Standard Titan Non-SLI Components
Only one Titan model has been offered in the U.S. with a single GPU: the GT80 Titan-047. It is no longer listed at MSI and is becoming hard to find. I don't expect it to be available for much longer. According to Xotic PC, it differs in the following ways from the two-GPU SLI models described above:

• Only one M.2 SSD is supported and it comes with a single 128 GB M.2 SSD module. This means you cannot create an internal RAID array at the hardware level.
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• A second GPU cannot be added. This means you cannot convert it to an SLI model---it will always have just one GPU.

However, the model I had in mind is the GT80 2QE with a single GPU and i7 5th gen. Will this one have a second empty MXM slot for future possible SLI?

Thanks!

 

I'm pretty sure it doesn't have heatsink with heatpipes for another gpu. It might be that there is no another connection for MXM card. And if you're planning to add another gpu in 4-5 years then it's not worth to buy with single card. That 980m will be like 580m nowadays. In that time we will have HBM 2.0 memory and new architecture cpus.
I suggest you to wait for a little bit. Maybe MSI will release GT80s with single GTX 980(Desktop).

 

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in 4-5 years we will probably be onto new computers - more likely looking at next 2-3 years

 

Word of warning if you were thinking of picking up Just Cause 3. Nvidia have confirmed that it does not support multi GPUs at all, and would require a patch from the developers to fix. All the JC3 game ready nvidia drivers do is force it to run in single GPU mode. Nice.......

 

I have ran JC3 in SLI using the JC2 SLI compatibility bits. The latest nvidia driver released Monday included an SLI profile so they will both run in SLI.

 

You sure? Nvidia seem to think otherwise:

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/just-cause-3-engine-is-incompatible-with-all-multi-gpu-solutions/

 

Anyway, JC3 is just a piece of ***** IMO
With my respect to the developers.

 

anyone know how to speed up after effects rendering?

 

I ran it in SLI, I didn't play it very long since it was just released on monday but all I did was copy the driver sli bits from JC2 profile into the JC3 profile and both GPU's were running.

 

Cheers - good to know! I've refunded it through Steam for now. Might re-buy it later after a few patches.

In other news, the latest drivers see to finally have a working SLI solution for Fallout 4. Its still not perfect (framerate drop in Diamond city even though both GPUs are only at 70%, and the CPU is also only with all cores at 60-70%) - but its a heck of a lot better than before!

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/just-cause-3-confirmed.765111/page-4#post-10149122

I noticed SLI with JC3 isn't 100% shared across both GPU's. One GPU is loaded into the 90% range, but the other is 35-45% loaded. I was wondering about this, and may have found out why:

SLI-ight Confusion With SLI in Just Cause 3, It’s Definitely Possible, NVIDIA Employee Mispoke
http://wccftech.com/sli-ight-confus...-definitely-possible-nvidia-employee-mispoke/

" What this might mean is that either Hybrid SLI Rendering or SLIAA, where AA effects are offloaded onto the other GPU, is being used. Currently only Single-GPU is supported via the program settings, however AFR can be forced and it likely will result in increased performance, as this game engine is compatible as other games based upon it can attest to.
So no, the SLI profile is not perfect as of yet, but it is possible and a profile is something that NVIDIA has to create and put into the next driver release. To say that the engine is incompatible with Multi-GPU solutions is wrong. The individual in question likely misspoke before actually researching the issue."

 

hey guys
how its going on
anyone experiencing some drop frames in windows 10 with the msi gt80s sli-002
like everything work perfect but sometimes when playing any game(like any game from (league of legends to battlefield 4) you would face 40-50 in one second and then the game will be back to normal,
really driving me nuts
im thinking of returning it because its not worth the money, i bought it from EXPCeStore
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GT80S-T...515012?hash=item21051a1084:g:7i8AAOSwT5tWOXtu
if anyone get it from there and experiencing the same problem

Thanks

 

Network lag induced frame rate drops are a common problem out of the box for laptops with the Killer network hardware, you need to uninstall 2 of the elements in the Killer Suite. "Killer Network Manager" and "Killer Bandwidth Control Filter Driver"

Here is a post where I have the details, look into the Spoiler for images:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...latency-variation-issue.784279/#post-10150218

Network problems are frustrating, but not a good reason to give up on a great computer like the GT80S

Please post some benchmarks and tuning images from XTU, and @GTVEVO has offered to help tune / OC remotely with a new GT80S SLI-002 owner to get the best performance out of the new model(s) - there are BIOS and XTU settings as well as MSI Afterburner tuning that can get you more performance.

Speaking of performance, I have found that uninstalling MSI Game Center, and using Windows Power Plans, XTU, Afterburner directly helps with tuning. You might try uninstalling that as well.

Also, right now MSI doesn't have any uploads for drivers/utilities/BIOS for the new GT80s, but you can use the Win10 x64 section of the Broadwell GT80 to get the latest drivers and utilities:

http://us.msi.com/product/notebook/support/GT80-Titan-SLI-GTX-980M-SLI-5.html#down-utility&Win10 64

That way you can uninstall and reinstall, and upgrade drivers and utilities from there until MSI updates the new GT80S's support areas.

 

@GTVEVO, Even if you experiment on his, I would still appreciate some help tuning mine when i get it as I have never really done much on my Blade Pro (everything is locked down in firmware, software and bios on that thing...)

 

Hi
Is there a link to a tutorial on Overclocking the MSI GT80S Titan SLI 002? I want to increase it to the maximum power limits to test it .

 

Frame rate drops could be from the nvidia drivers or the os. It will be hard to tell without testing each. I would suggest starting with the drivers by rolling back or installing earlier versions and evaluate from there first.

The 002 shouldn't have any issues running everything at acceptable frame rates.

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There isn't anything I have seen yet but for the cpu I would start with xtu and for the gpu's, nvidia inspector.

In the bios you should see an overclock menu if it works the same as the gt72.

You should be able to move up to 4ghz very easily as reported, it's after that where things get questionable and we want to test.

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I ran across your GT80 SLI-263 3dmark11 score posted on Futuremark:
P19948 - Graphics Score 30341 Physics Score 9855 Combined Score 9814

That's a great GPU score, so you had it nicely tuned for GPU, and if you OC the 5950HQ to 41x/42x x 4, you can bring your Physics/Combined scores over 10k - maybe close to 11k, that would bring you up over P20k

What were your GPU settings for that score?

What is up with your GT80 SLI-263?, you didn't mention if you got it working again or not...the 3dmark11 score is from Nov 26...

 

That's my score. It should be under the same username as my forum username. That run wasn't even maxing my GPUs. I was running Prema BIOS which futuremark sees it at 540Mhz, which means theres a 1:1 mapping of what's done in any GPU clocking tool. subtract whatever I had from 540Mhz and that should reveal my GPU overclock. Memory is always set at 1453Mhz.

Unfortunately, as mentioned before, there is a weird bug with SLI notebooks, meaning that CPU scores drop with the physics test, and combined physics test. I don't quite understand it. Disabling SLI solves it completely. Once enabling SLI again, it's back. I don't know what causes it.

I ended up returning it, since I didn't want to wait for it to be repaired etc...

I'm currently laptopless, and don't really know what to do. I have a brand new 500GB EVO that's just sitting in its box doing nothing.

 

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Too bad you couldn't swap it for another GT80 SLI-263, or a SLI-002...it sucks to be without...

Went back and re-read your posts, including the summaries early / later of the GT80.

I will check out disabling SLI and running with one 980m to see how it changes the CPU/Combined scores at some point. Were you running Windows 10, or still on 8.1?

But so far I don't see CPU scores with SLI vs single GPU as a problem, especially when comparing against Mr.Fox's recent PM870 6700k/980 scores, where the 6700K is expected to be higher scoring:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...enix-has-arisen.781814/page-157#post-10151555

With GT80 SLI-263 980m SLI my Total/Graphics/Physics/Combined scores are:
18281 / 23715 / 10893 / 10749
compared to Mr.Fox's PM870 6700k/980:
18325 / 20699 / 13698 / 13539.

That seems about right, 5950HQ 47w @ 4.1ghz vs 6700k 95w @ 4.7ghz.

If I were also running the Prema vbios my Graphics score would be ~30k like yours.

Your Physics / Combined score was how much higher when disabling 1 GPU, and running single GPU?

Do you think it might be a power issue? Dual 330w power adapter might be the real solution, vs an SLI bug?

If you want to stick with the GT80 line, the GT80S 980 SLI is coming soon

 

Humm makes me wonder could there be a problem with the ec firmware like we just discovered on the p870dm-g. If there was massive current throttling with the cpu occuring only during sli operation it very well could be.

Keep in mind with the lower tdp limited cpus you can see some current throttling outside the power limit window.

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Does anyone know the specs for the Bly Ray player in the gt80 002

 

Nvidia really cannot get their drivers right at the moment. Latest drivers 359.06 add good functioning SLI profile for Fallout 4, but at the same time completely breaks SLI on Battlefront....

 

The optical drives don't change often, so it's possible it's still the same one as in the GT80 SLI-263, which is an LG BU20N:
http://www.lg.com/us/burners-drives/lg-BU20N-internal-blu-ray-dvd-drive

The LG BU20N is listed as the newest Blu-ray internal device:
http://www.lg.com/us/blu-ray-burners-and-drives

Please let us know when you get your SLI-002 what model MSI is using now

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I saw suppuort for 75 mhz lcd panel in new nvidia drivers. G sync is comming ?

 

Yay
How exactly does g-sync work?

 

It's not OS dependent. It will do it in every OS.

The laptop will work just fine out of the box, then I'll do something, such as too many runs of 3DM11 or hit a soft power limit or something, and it seems to remember that I did that, and just permanently throttle forever. I hate nVIDIA sometimes (most times)

It drops the physics by about 500-600. It's the difference between getting 28+ fps and 31 fps in the physics test.

I don't know if dual PSU will solve it.

After using the GT80, I'm convinced it's by far the most superior notebook ever released, in terms of real world ergonomics and physical functionality. The cherry mx reds are just so unmatched it's not even funny.

The reason I don't have an 870 is because I don't like Eurocom. This more or less cuts Clevo from my shopping list and leaves Alienware and MSI. The funny thing is Alienware has a close relationship with MSI.

The GT80S with 980 SLI is the epitome of diminishing returns. It is just less than double what I paid for my 263US for marginally more performance (I realize I'm not comparing a brand new price), and so that bothers the hell out of me. I would rather just wait until Pascal or Greenland mobile.

 

Can you verify if the throttling happens after overclocking, as in the notebook performs AS expected before a bunch of tinkering?

 

Yes as soon as I am able to test the 002 we will run a complete line and report our findings along with results. Hopefully if something is found it will give the proof required to justify action.

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Ohh, I meant the 870 and its funny crippled EC.

 

Absolutely

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Don't hold your breath...

You're one of those "well if I wait it will get better" guys aren't cha?

Well this true. If you wait it will get better, but as the computer world is... Your better is usually only marginal difference.

These are laptops restricted to 300W power supplies lol, we're all fools for buying them, but we need them don't we?

So yes, you can wait but there is always going to be something newer and better 6 months later, its a vicious cycle man

 

I'm waiting because we're in a unique spot. As I've explained and many others have, the 7970 was released on 28nm late 2011. It's now 2015 and we're about to get FinFET 16nm/14nm. Not only that, the 980M has been out for 1 year. I've had my Area-51 for about 1 year. Why do I want more of the same? In a sense I've already played with these toys.

On the other hand I need a laptop. Not sure what will be the one to get...

 

I'm more in the same position as you too...

I wanted to get the best I could get for the money, but damn man it is never easy to wait lol.

My NP9370 with Dual 7970Ms.... Both cards died at the same damn time thus, fueling me to want another gaming "slaptop" sooner rather than later. Dude I wish I had the luxury of time ha-ha.

 

Can I know which (jc2) sli profile bits to use please?

 

And, you are forgetting that the first 3-6 months of a new release isn't all fun and games, mixing the Nvidia driver fun we've had due to Windows 10 and lots of new game releases, we'll move into a season of unstable drivers for new Pascal hardware for the desktop and then mobile.

Not to mention that the first releases of Pascal, the first generation, might need tweaking that makes the 2nd or 3rd generation much more livable.

The 980's are going to provide that "normal" bump + of 30% performance increase, and double that headroom through SLI, and it's a real improvement.

You outta get 6-9 months out of it on an accelerated Pascal release, and maybe longer if there are problems.

Given single's before SLI, it might be another 3-6 months before Pascal SLI is released to beat the SLI 980.

But, first we have to see the SLI 980's ship and perform...

How about a nice GT72S 980 for 30-90 days, until the 980 SLI's come into bloom?

 

It's guaranteed to support future generations.

 

Until I see 980s in the GT80 overclocked against overclocked 980Ms, I don't believe the 30% jump means anything to the enthusiast.

I'm cool with dealing through new technology bugs/quirks as long as it's fixed through software.

GT72S doesn't have the Steel Series Cherry MX Red .

I'm aware. That's one of the reasons why I went just buying a GT80 anyway.

 

The GT80 has Red LED's, but Brown MX Switches

This'll fit in the backpack, too bad it's not wireless...

SteelSeries 6Gv2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard - Red Cherry Switches Edition
http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-6Gv2-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B008OQTGBQ

 

There's no clicky sound that the browns have. Are you sure? lol

I'm now super confused as I don't have my GT80 anyway.

 

MSI GT80 Titan a beastly notebook with a Cherry MX keyboard
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8669/msi-gt80-titan-a-beastly-notebook-with-a-cherry-mx-keyboard

" Yesterday MSI announced their latest notebook addition, the GT80 Titan. I'm a bit unsure what to think of the notebook, but it's obviously unique in that it offers a SteelSeries keyboard with Cherry MX Brown switches."

 

Yes, I've read that.

Okay, but the signature difference between red and brown is the clicky sound and feel.

My GT80 did not have that. I'm 101% sure of this.



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