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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

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    It's the OS 10 teething issues again, Windows 8.1 works fine, but I still remove it due to variations in Nvidia drivers causing problems over time - then I either can't use the current driver, or need to disable hibernation again - until Nvidia puts out a driver that works.

    Leaving hibernation / sleep / pagefile off all the time works best for me.

    It's not the GT80, and that review was uninformed - they shouldn't have taken off points for what is clearly an OS/driver issue due to Windows 10 newness.
     
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    Ok guys for whatever reason UPS wasnt able to deliver the TIM, but they did deliver the Opolar Side vacuum coolers . And heres a teaser..
    Despite them seeming Gimicky ... With the Gelid on the CPU and GPU in Bf4 on ultra Caspian Border-Dragon Valley and many others.. The Temps are not getting any higher than 58c on the GPU and the CPU is around 61-62c
    Right now GPU is at 32c idle and CPU is 36c Ambient in the house is 75F
    :)
    This is using the Coolers on the Thermal modes they have. And one attached to each side of the laptop - Side vents. Not the backs. Will play with that next.

    **And this is with NO cooler underneath. Just sitting the lappy on the desk **
     
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    Promising results, keep us posted! I hadn't heard of those coolers but I am willing to give them a try.
     
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    Nice...
    Is this the vacuum?:
    http://www.amazon.com/LC05-Cooling-Auto-Temp-Detection-Compatible/dp/B00XKU47Y2
    Pictures?
     
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    Sooo i use 2 laptop coolers for my gt80s, but i dont think it really does help THAT much..I mean it does help my cpu and gpu, never go above 80C. I use the coolermater notepal ergo stand III and a LB1 High performance qosimo x505 both purchased on amazon.

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    The cooler from LB1 is not really 18"inch but the gt80s rubber feet slide right into the LB1 cooler and the Eero III supports it.
     
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    Hi guys!
    I have GT80 with i7 5700 and GTX970M sli, and i'm wondering about getting higher OC results. In stock I can't go any further than 135 mhz for a clock and +0.25 mv voltage. So, I want to flash my GPU's with a modified vBios. I found an unlocked vbios for MXM GTX970M 6 gb, but I don't will it work on my MSI. Anybody tryed to flash modded vbios on your GT80?
     
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    I have a GT80 SLI-263 which has had the driver issues mentioned on here (constant video card resets, hard freezes, boot then reboot after a few mins, etc) and sent it in for service to MSI. Has anyone on here sent theirs in to MSI for this issue? Any luck with MSI fixing the issue?
     
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    A lot have this problem, its related to win10 not to gt80.
     
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    Had those issues.
     
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    I am experiencing it in Win 8.1. Sometime the computer will run fine for a while. Most times it get caught in a loop where I get about 2 minutes or so of usage, then a black screen, then it recovers to the desktop with a little balloon indicating that the display adapter stopped responding then recovered (don't remember the exact wording). Sometimes it will even get a hard freeze. I have tried everything I could find in this 566+ page thread. Disabling sleep and hibernate seems to lessen, but not eliminate this issue. I have even tried changing the drivers for the intel management engine(they have different ones on their support page for win10 (11.0.0.1146) and win8.1/7 (10.0.30.1054) and I tried them both as well as a later one from intel themselves). I have tried many versions of the geforce driver and had the most stability (but not complete) with 353.62 (still got a few Event ID 14s). So I have come to the conclusion that this must be hardware related in that these card have very slim margins when they test them for errors and the card is probably getting overheated enough to where some internal part of a chip is failing.
     
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    Experienced everything you are saying. Make sure to not install the Intel Management Engine.
     
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    Tried fresh images without IME and with IME (all three versions I mentioned).
     
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    Well, I don't believe it's from overheating. I had CLU when it was still going on. So, if CLU won't prevent it, you're kind of screwed at this point. You might have to e-mail MSI or Intel.
     
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    I actually have it RMAed and in MSI's hands. I was more looking for anyone who might have sent theirs in on this issue and how did it go? Did MSI say 'can't reproduce' or 'use driver from website' or some other unacceptable answer? I am at my wits end with trying software fixes. I truly believe it is hardware related. I have two Alienware m18x's , an aorus laptop, two razer blade 14's and I keep geforce experience up to date with the drivers on all of those and don't have any sleep, black screen or driver stopped responding issues with those (well maybe an occasional one, but very rare).
     
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    Have had issues like those on my blade pro - after downgrading from ten or upgrading I had to factory reset it TWICE to fix it.

    Razer couldn't reproduce the issues with my blade pro so they always wiped it and sent it back to me
     
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    The issues persisted for me whether it was wiped clean or not. I even broke the RAID. It ended up dying anyway, and it's sad because the GT80 is the best laptop for practical use. Oh well, back to AW I went. Paid $220 less and got it brand new, but 8GB less, no 2x128GB, no mechanical keyboard and worse CPU. Eh...
     
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    So I am guessing that it has to be some hardware minor difference within the video card? Any technical insight on this theory?
     
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    Thousands of multiple returned AW laptops, going back many times over years, and you have 1 GT80 fail (after pulling it apart and repasting), and give up?

    You don't see many GT80's going back for service, @hoofhearted can't even get 1 person to respond about how their GT80 RMA went... it's rare.

    Why not get another GT80? Why go back to the AW, which do fail repeatedly?
     
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    I don't have another because of the price. That one GT80 I bought was my one-shot that I was willing to give.

    With the AW, I know how to avoid the issue.

    As far as getting others to be vocal, this community isn't exactly what I'd call enthusiastic about passionate examination.

    It's been how long and we still have no clear answer on how the 6820HK overclocks, and word of mouth for the 6920HQ that it turbo's >28 seconds.

    Not to mention the 980 desktop clocks, TDP, voltage, throttling and exported BIOS' to be modded.

    I'd suspect there are more GT80s in the hands of those that aren't part of this community. That goes for Alienware too (that one is obvious).

    Clevo is a completely different beast and it's clear that's where the real party is at.

    How many @ NBRforums own the 263?
     
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    Hey guys,
    anyone here ever had a problem with a deformed face plate? I have a GT80s and noticed that there is some kind of warping in the middle.. I uploaded a picture of it too...
    bend.jpg
     
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    Mine is flat, but I have had is mis-fit / seat before. Try sliding it to the right again, and align it to seat better sliding back to the left to lock it in. :)
     
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    Thanks for the reply, I assume for sliding it into position I have to remove a few screws from the back? I don't really want to void my warranty..yet.
     
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    Oh, you haven't opened it yet :)

    I thought you had and were having trouble getting it reseated...it must be a hurried assembly technician didn't seat it correctly.

    There are 2 screws on the back with little icons next to them in the plastic - showing the rectangle of the top panel next to them. One has a Void Warranty sticker over it, but MSI says you are ok to open to replace/add Storage/Memory, but if you mess it up it's not covered under warranty.

    gt80 bottom view remove 2 screws to slide and remove top panel.JPG

    Be careful while you have the top panel off, don't drop anything into it, or spill liquid it... lots of open solder joints and parts are protected by the top panel.

    I leave my screws out, as I do from time to time slide it open and swap out 2.5" and M.2 drives - while powered off. But, if you don't plan on going in and out often, I would recommend putting the screws right back in after you get the top panel well seated.
     
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    Ok, thanks for the instructions. I just got an email from MSI and I am supposed to send it to one of their service centers... I might just do that, while I'm still under warranty. Thanks again for the help!
     
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    That's a good idea, I always recommend people use their warranty rather than taking it upon themselves to fix a problem. We paid for the warranty, and for a 100% acceptable working laptop, so we should let MSI make it so :)

    In this case it is a very simple fix, just loosen 2 screws, reseat the lid, and tighten the screws again. That's about as simple a handy work fix can get. But, if you aren't comfortable with it, definately take up MSI's offer to fix it for you.

    Be sure and look around your laptop for other issues, so you can get them all fixed at once. Both cosmetic and functional issues - run a few benchmarks and games for a few hours to make sure the CPU/GPU/etc are stable.

    If you run into any problems it's good to get them all fixed up under the 1st / single RMA.

    Good luck, and please come back and let us know how it works out, and how long it took MSI to ship/fix/ship it back to you.
     
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    I did some minor research on hard drives, SSDs, HDDs, m.2, SATA, and more of that sort.
    From what I've found, the m.2 in the GT80s is SATA III and runs just like the 2.5' SSDs available, just smaller and more compact.
    I'm trying to figure out what drives I will get with my GT80s without blowing major $$$.

    Right now I'm actually thinking of the 2TB Samsung 950pro 2.5', because I have storage problems and I want a fast drive, but I've been wondering how are the m.2 ssds compared to it, maybe i'll get 2TB HDD and 500GB extra m.2 SSD
     
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    I tried the 2TB HDD, and it's too slow, 125MB/sec slow.

    The 2.5" bay in the GT80S is SATA III, so you could use a 2TB SSD @ 550MB/sec, that's the same as the SATA III M.2 drives.

    The M.2 PCIE x4 drives are almost exactly 2x the cost of the same size M.2 SATA drives... it's way too expensive.

    I haven't looked in the GT80S bay's yet, so IDK if you can run SATA III M.2 drives in all 3 bays, but that would be cheapest way to go right now.

    I would wait for the new gen M.2 SATA III and PCIE x4 drives to ship... 1TB in M.2 2280 form factor.
     
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    Didn't know there were so many M.2 slots in GT80S, thought only 1.
    Sad thing is right now my transfer speed is less than 50MB :/
     
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    3 M.2's in the GT80s, 4 M.2's in the GT80...

    50MB/sec? SATA 1.5? :)
     
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    4 slots that you can make as raid zero, to get 4x transfer speed :D 2gb lol
     
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    yes, possibly because his harddrive is either very old, or hes reading off directly from what windows tells him when hes copying bunch of small files, which HDD is terrible at small files even if its sequential read unless its copied at multi-threaded.
     
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    Well, I bought the exact same machine last month and it devours everything I throw at it from Skyrim to all other games from my Steam account and I have no complaints, when that time comes I will just upgrade it! Awesome gaming my friends, I know I am!
     
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    It's also a very flexible base to work from in the future too :)
     
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    And this my friend is the truth! The fact of the matter is that this is a portable desktop replacement with great potential. And although i really don't do rendering or heavy technical work which would require upgrades to it's full capability it is reassuring to know that further on I can bring it up to 32 gigs of ram or upgrade it's GPU as well. Yes, this is a very worthwhile investment which should more than enough suit my needs for a few years.
     
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    Hey guys, i got a question to ask.

    I recently reformatted my GT80 from a USB recovery that was made the moment the machine has turned on.

    Everything went smoothly except for my partitions.

    My Raid OS drive got split into to C:OS Drive and D :Data

    same with my HDD which is E :Data and F:Local Data

    Theyre both empty, i think theyre the recovery partitions, how do i go about removing them?
     
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    The partitions may have been hidden partitions originally...You can hide them again by going to Disk Management/right click on the drive letter of the partition you wish to hide/select Change drive letters and paths/select remove....Hope this helps :)
     
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    Best to make sure that your HDs & SSDs are configured the way you want them before reinstalling your games and other software, otherwise, if you make a mistake and have to restore again it will double the time and work required. Good luck! ;)
     
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    think its been confirmed the Oculus developers kit works with the GT80, any word on the HTC Vive? also, if anybody has the Oculus dev kit, would love to hear if the new SLI (one GFX card for each eye) functionality is working yet.
     
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    Cooler master sf-19 v2
    http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16834982315
    Available and in stock
     
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    Looking to add two more m.2 ssd's to my titain 80. Do i need to match the size and make of the two that are already installed?
     
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    If you want to create a raid zero with 4 ssd then yes must be the same size, if not then your raid will be 4x smallest ssd,
    But you can create another raid zero with only 2 new ssd.
    Please correct me if I am wrong.
     
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    So nobody flashed 970m\980m with custom vBios? I'm wondering, can I use a usual custom vbios for 6 gb 970M, or GT80 has specific version of 970M GPU?
     
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    A bunch of is did there is an entire thread noted gt80 test and tune. You Might have to go a few pages back but some great info in there.

    Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
     
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    Check this https://biosmods.wordpress.com
    U can use 970m 6gb clevo it's mxm gpu the same as gt80's
     
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    Nothing restricts the MSI system/cards compared to any others so anything you read that has been done to 9x0 series cards can be done on MSI systems.
     
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    flash at your own risk of course. i had no problem flashing back and forth b/w my custom 980m vbios and stock, then for a while my second video card would not flash at all, kept getting errors. after much sweating have finally flashed them both back to stock and don't mess with it anymore. oddly, nvidia inspector now lists my vbios for both cards as modified even though they are back to stock and can't go over the 135 threshold anymore.
     
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    Up to 64 actually on the skylake model
     
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    Your case seems a bit different. The issues with drivers crashing causing a hard boot was/is related to how sleep works and it is fixed by disabling hybrid shutdown on both Win 8.1 and 10. But your issues seem to stem further than that.

    I didn't send my machine to MSI as my issues were fixed, but aside from a full hard OS reinstall from scratch and updating to the latest BIOS, vbios and EC Firmware, I don't know what to suggest. Hopefully MSI can find the issue and fix it for you. Make sure to follow up with them and give them as much info as possible, specially ways to reproduce errors.
     
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