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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

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    unlikely 20" is too big just like how 12" is too small (razer stealth..lol)
     
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    The 20" OLED screen would fit perfectly with the laptop case size required to give room for 2 x 220w Pascal GPU's + Kabylake K 5ghz Desktop CPU - and fit all the boards from the Vortex II

    Bam!! the GT80V Vortex II Edition :confused:
     
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    Yeah, they really dragged out the releases...
     
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    have 2 extra keys i keep trying to trade but not enough rep to trade them :(

    Trying to get some graphically intensive games so I can show off the gt80s once i get it...

    Trying to trade:
    Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn
    Hitman: Absolution - Elite Edition

    anyone want to trade for them :(
     
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    Same vBios and display driver version. I wonder, how do i update the Iris Pro iGPU?

    I know updating Bios and EC Firmware is really risky :mad: i have no experience on this, Is it easy enough to follow through?

    Yep, only on battery. Machine runs perfectly fine when on AC.
     
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    It does the same thing on battery switched to Intel GPU or Nvidia GPU's?

    The firmware for Intel is the chipset driver, you can download the latest one for Windows 8.1 from Intel - the automatic driver updater software from Intel doesn't work - it won't find the latest.

    Also download the latest Intel GPU driver for your CPU/iGPU CPU combo. For me it's the Intel 6200.

    The instructions for upgrading the EC, BIOS, vbios are in the words around the download for each of them - highlighted hypertext you click on. Then when you read the first pdf, you check out what kind of package format your download is after unpacking and compare to the options in the pdf, then from there that pdf links to download another pdf, and you follow those instructions specific to your download - yeah.

    It's risky if you don't follow instructions well, but even so the install apps and bins are checked preparing for flashing, so it's pretty hard to mess it up - unless you are impatient or loose power - don't kick out the AC cord and don't run without a battery :)

    You shouldn't be having problems on battery like you are, it might be a hardware issue on battery - maybe now is the time to involve MSI support and file a ticket with them so they can help you through debugging and then if they decide to RMA you are set to get it fixed.

    Hopefully you have already registered yourself and your laptop - you get 3 months free warranty extension if you register within a certain time of purchase... 14 days? You need to have a photo jpeg of your receipt to prove purchase as part of the registration:
    https://register.msi.com/home/login

    Then when you are logged in, and registered your laptop, you can file a support request for that registered laptop - and start the debugging process with MSI which may/may not lead to RMA.

    MSI can walk you through the updating of the EC, BIOS, vbios and if you aren't comfortable doing it they will RMA it to do it for you.

    Please let us know how it works out :)
     
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    It's fine when im on iGPU.

    Whats the steps for upgrading the iGPU/Processor? Just download then install? No need to uninstall and other stuff like graphics drivers?
     
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    If it's working fine when you are on iGPU, then you don't need to do any updates :)

    Did you uninstall MSI Dragon Center? That F's with GPU scaling.
     
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    I did, it made things slightly better. The only time i get freezes now is when im doing something that requires graphical power on battery. (Watching videos etc...)

    Any ideas?
     
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    Hmmm, I never use battery as a regular thing, but the few times my power cord dropped out and I was only browsing / video streaming I didn't notice until the battery warnings came up :)

    Let me check again now...
     
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    Witcher 3...I get 80-90 fps in 2K DSR with ultra settings...looks unbelievable!!!
     
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    Ok, here's a quick update. It worked fine after I pulled the power cord, watched video's, started games, etc.

    Then I rebooted while still on battery, and now I am seeing what you are seeing - the Nvidia driver is dieing and restarting - black screen - every 30 seconds or so. :(

    So, for me it doesn't matter, I run on iGPU on battery, and the 361.43 driver is working fine on AC, but for anyone wanting to use battery while on Nvidia GPU's, this is annoying - black screen restart 5x+ while writing this post :)
     
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    Ok, back booted on AC power... Phew... what a nightmarish 20 minute hell that was :D

    @Risechi - What was the latest Nvidia driver that doesn't serially crash on Battery?
     
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    And I did confirm that rolling from 361.43 back to 359.06 did indeed fix the problem on my older Alienware m18x with GTX 680 SLI. It was BSODing every minute or so, even on a fresh boot. However my Razer Blade 14 with 970m does not exhibit this behavior. I wonder if it is something to do with SLI and battery.
     
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    Yes I am pretty sure it does alter sli properties as it was released to fix sli studder in the battlefront game. That's the on thing that it does fix while it breaks everything else.

    Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
     
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    I had a crash on battery.... I think I will just wait it out until nvidia fixes it haha.
     
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    I have a GT80 Titan from 2015.
    24gb of ram
    250gb SSD RAID
    1TB SATA DATA DRIVE
    SLI GTX980m

    Will I be able to upgrade to non "mobile" version of GPU, by that I mean the new desktop strenght mobile GPU (ex, SLI 980) ?
     
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    Not sure. Personally I would recommend you upgrade to new high end Pascal GPUs instead. 980 SLI might or might not work, and I don't think anyone has tried it.
     
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    It's a LOT of expense for a small gain at the moment, I agree that waiting is a better option.
     
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    Does anybody know if the new GT80s models with Skylake processors will support eGPUs over the Thunderbolt 3 port?
     
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    what game looks best on the GT80?

    Metro Reduxes (if so which)?
    Far Cry 3?
    Middle Earth Shadow of Mordor?
    Bioshock Infinite?
    Ryse: Son of Rome?

    I can only get one
     
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    Are there any older, working graphics drivers that doesn't cause issues with sleep or hibernation? I don't have any issues with crashes or BSODs, but it would be super nice to be able to use either. Sleep works for short periods of time, but after a while, it'll end up stuck at a black screen after powering back on. Hibernation just powers off the machine at the MSI logo as it starts trying to resume and ends up being a restart. What's weird is that even though full hibernation is completely nonfunctional, hybrid sleep works flawlessly, and even has the nice side benefit of keeping my XTU settings active when restarting.
     
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    Middle Earth Shadow of Mordor

    And, Just Cause 3, but you already have that one :)

    MESoM gives 120+ FPS with everything enabled on Ultra. I set the Display to 100 FPS, Limit FPS to 101 in RivaTuner, and disable Vsync in MESoM.

    All the others are good too, but if I had to pick one from the list, its MESoM.

    But, as always, make a long list and only buy when on Sale on Steam or Humble Bundle, or another Steam Code buy - Cheap :)
     
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    Not on Windows 10, but on Windows 8.1, maybe - although I always disable Hibernation/Pagefile/Sleep, so I couldn't recommend a particular version. Just keep DDU uninstalling, and install each release going backward until you have success, then let us all know :)

    For me I prefer the latest games support over using sleep. I'm even keeping 361.43 that doesn't work on Battery, because I use battery so seldom and when I do I use the Intel GPU for power saving.
     
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    Don't have JC 3 - just a coupon
     
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    Nah, get Just Cause 3, Just a Coupon's a bore... :rolleyes:
     
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    No money lol I only have $15 coupon and 1 tf2 key
     
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    They got haptics device today! :D
     
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    My parents don't really support me playing or buying video games so I'm in my own
     
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    Oddly enogh my razer is on the latest driver with no problems
     
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    I prefer sleep over latest optimization But I guess that really depends on the user
     
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    Well apparently only bioshock is under 15$ on Amazon :(
     
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    Even after booting on battery / off AC?
     
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    Both the BioShock series and Metro series go on sale as a bundle often, for very cheap, I wouldn't buy a single - wait for / look for the bundle. Otherwise when you go to purchase the rest on bundle you will be over paying for the item you already have.
     
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    same here. I have a Razer Blade 14 with 970m card and it has absolutely no issues on the latest driver (361.43) with sleep. My GT80 is still in RMAland :(.
     
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    Well it doesn't like world of warships
     
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    Wait till you buy a new game release that has a game optimized Nvidia driver released with it - SLI config included.

    You will go without "Sleep" :cool:
     
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    I don't play as much games as most of my friends u know.... I do robotics and stuff on it to. I have to CAD the robot before I build it.
     
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    That's cool, PC's are multi-functional, but if you are mostly doing CAD work, an Nvidia Quadro M series GPU would have been a much better choice.

    I don't think CAD programs support SLI either.

    MSI hasn't made a Workstation version of the GT80 but they have a Workstation class series, the WT72:
    http://www.newegg.com/Mobile-Workstations/Category/ID-445

    I wish you would have mentioned CAD when you were first talking about what laptop to get...
     
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    980m can handle cad easy
     
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    read online that industry cards only offer 1-2% more cad performance than gtx cards and cost 10x more $$
     
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    WT72 costs even more than the GT80 and has lower performance and isn't as cool looking... I also play video games on my laptop and the Quadro's cannot do that at all...
     
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    "As I'd hoped to relate in my original post, I'd long thought Quadros were unbeatable in every kinds of graphics applications, as you seem to do, but my subsequent comparisons of Quadro (3) and Geforce (1) cards in my use and in analysis of specifications and benchmarks of many, many others tells a very complex- hence the length of this post- and different story, mainly that graphics applications are consistently shifting to an emphasis on 3D performance and there are many other systems factors affecting the total experience. You write, " nothing from the consumer graphics beats the qudro 4000 and above in dcc" but I'd appreciate seeing hard evidence or good descriptions of your experience of that statement as I saw many Geforce GTX cards- even some 8800GT's that surpassed the Quadro 4000 in 2D and especially 3D benchmarks. That said, I'm still open to the possibility that I haven't optimized my FX 4800- which by the way surpassed some Quadro 4000's in 2D benchmarks, and I may well find when doing my 6,000 part Solidworks assembly that Quadro's are "unbeatable." So far, the numbers say otherwise."

    Companies don't like using gaming cards so they pay more for 'workstation' cards. Us consumers don't need to waste money to change the names of our cards.

    SolidWorks supports SLI
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/386333-33-quadro-geforce-autocad-solidworks-sketchup
     
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    Check out modeling at 3:15:

    GTX 980M VS QUADRO K5100M


    A 3100 might be more reasonably priced:

    Quadro K3100M vs Quadro K5100M
     
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    If i remember right the new quadros are based on the same architecture as the titan and are even MORE expensive than before... still not cost effective... That and they cannot play video games AT ALL
     
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    The gaming GPU's don't have the high precision math's the CAD / Modeling software uses. You can't do high end work on Gaming GPU's, it just won't work.

    It's a racket, but Nvidia has locked out the Gaming GPU's from doing professional CAD and modeling.

    It's unfortunate, but that's the way it is.

    There is no work around to get Gaming GPU's to do the double precision floating point work as fast as the Quadro / Tesla GPU's do.
     
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    You would never buy a WT72 K5100M for gaming, but then again you would never buy a GT80S 980m for CAD / Modeling...

    The Dell 7000/5000/3000 series is the new workstation model, those are going to be for rendering / modeling - expensive because they are new, but maybe a used 6800 / 6000 series would work.









     
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