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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

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    it was 80% off on steam -- and Still IS

    and i got it through my friend with cash and he gifted it to me :)
     
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    Nice, wonder if that means we can expect PCMark9 soon and new 3DMark.
     
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    Unlikely
     
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    wow, i never know 3DMark on Steam has achievements... now I just have to buy it.. LOL...
     
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    That's how they get you, lol. :)
     
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    Probably right, perhaps the next PCMark will be so awesome they'll skip 9 and call it PCMark10. :)
     
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    Also how can I best optimize battery life... Is there a quick way to optimize it... there are so many different places for the power plan to be set. Its hard to know what I should set and where...

    theres scm
    theres msi gaming thingy
    theres speed shift
    etc.

    all tend to reset when coming out of sleep for some reason.
     
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    Dragon gaming center uses Intel xtu btw
     
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    image.jpeg Updated dragon gaming center and the new one employs xtu and has a way to change the CPU ratio
     
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    Here is a benchmark w/ 39x cpu overclock VIA DRAGON GAMING CENTER - no other settings were changed

    MAX FAN NOT USED, CPU TEMPS NEVER WENT OVER 77 deg. C

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/10723100
     
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    I would appreciate some input on this... I only seem to be eeking approx. 1.5-2 hr's max.
     
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    Hi guys. How much can I sell a 980m + GPU heatsink + SLI tape ? I only play games single GPU and the second card for me is wasted .
     
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    You're joking lol

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
     
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    I'm not :)

    I play only Warld of tanks :)
     
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    You are killing your resale value for one. Taking out a prime reason to own the laptop is silly. Why did you buy it?

    Sell the GT80 whole, and buy a single GPU model. You can buy a nice mechanical keyboard and external monitor and have cash left over.

    You can't remove a GPU from a GT80 and have everything still work right, the cooling system wouldn't be balanced - physically - without the support of the MXM card / heatpipe / heat exchanger / exhaust.

    Believe it or not you aren't the first one to come up with this idea :)
     
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    That's about right, I get about 3 hours, but with iGPU. I didn't get the laptop for battery use, I have other devices for that, so it never entered into the equation.

    The battey in the GT80 is small in comparison to other large laptops, and the power draw with a OC'd CPU, 2 GPU's, and an 18" screen just can't be fed for long with that small battery.

    If you want more time, the usual needs to be done. Use the Power Saving Plan (set max CPU to 99%), set the MSI Dragon Center to Green Mode. Cut the display brightness down the bare minimum. Turn off BT, Wifi, Ethernet, backlighting, and unplug any USB devices.

    You might try disabling SLI, that might actually save some power by not powering up one of the 980m's.

    Now, just stare at the computer, and don't do anything except time it's fast discharge until it powers off.

    That will give you maximum time on battery. :)
     
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    Here is my best 3dmark run, compare GPU and CPU percentage difference.
    http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/7524442/fs/5708173

    Here is 3 way comparison adding a recent run on 361.75.
    http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/7524442/fs/5708173/fs/7460522

    You are also running a very down rev Nvidia drive, 354.37. 361.75 is working for me on Windows 8.1, not sure how it will be on Windows 10.

    Always use Max fan when benchmarking, there is no reason not to. The hard hitting heat generation of heavy benchmarks will quickly kick you into thermal throttling, even though after the auto fans kick in and 30-60 seconds later the temps drop down into normal range.

    I always run with Max fans for a few minutes before I start benchmarking, to suck all the heat out I can, and provide a reservoir of cool for the benchmark to fill - and not thermal throttle from the initial heat shock. :)

    Auto fans work fine, just remember you need to click the Clock on the hwinfo64 task bar after a couple of minutes to clear the thermal throttling indication, it shouldn't come back during the rest of the test run.
     
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    I have found that running XTU and MSI Afterburner alone give me good enough performance, adding the spice of MSI Dragon Gaming Center doesn't help, so I uninstall it.

    MSI Dragon Gaming Center offers Fan speed readouts, once I saw how fast my fans ran at auto and full speed, I lost interest in keeping it installed :)

    Just don't use EVGA Precision X for GPU OC, it's been killing AW/Clevo LCD's under odd situations - sometimes immediately sometimes after months of use. Also, some other contributing factor exists, because people with Windows 10 and without EVGA Precision X ever being run also had 18" LCD failures.

    So far I don't think any GT80's have had this happen :)
     
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    i play wot and wows too!
     
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    there are different performance modes in the msi control center -- also a high performance mode that seems independent of speed scaling...

    Should I use xtu or the bios or Msi Gaming Center for overclocking?
     
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    Those modes don't touch or do anything more than running XTU / MSI Afterburner, you won't get faster performance with MSI Gaming Center installed than not. You don't need it.

    The BIOS settings are useful if you run an OS that doesn't have an XTU / MSI Afterburner like program or feature - like Linux / Chrome / SteamOS.

    XTU won't load a profile if you crash while running a profile, it won't enable that profile until you go back into XTU and select a profile again. That feature is safer to me than experimenting with it in the BIOS when trying to determine the max stable OC.

    Once you know a stable setting through XTU then you can translate that to the BIOS and uninstall XTU if you like.
     
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    For me I run different OC's during the same boot - I have a standard OC for performance, a benchmark OC for numbers, and a low / tuned setting for long running batch jobs.

    It would be very inconvenient to me to reboot to go into the BIOS and reset all those numbers everytime I wanted to change my OC.

    Does the BIOS allow you to save and select different OC profiles?
     
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    so i should just uninstall the dragon gaming center?

    Also, what about msi help desk do i need that either?
     
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    Well, I would play with both, but eventually uninstall them, and then install XTU/MSI Afterburner - don't have them all installed at the same time.

    Helpdesk doesn't do anything for me on the 1812 model, IDK about on your 1814 model.

    If you aren't supposed to be OC'ing, maybe just running with the Sport mode in MSI Gaming Center isn't a bad idea ;)

    If you are good to OC full on, then yes uninstall the MSI Gaming Center, reboot and install XTU and MSI Afterburner/Rivatuner.
     
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    do shift modes in the gaming center implement the bios oc on red and the stock clocks on green mode?
     
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    rivatuner came on it from xoticpc
     
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    In order for BIOS changes to take effect there needs to be a reboot involved :)

    The modes in MSI Dragon are explained in the docs / help, read them for more details.

    The Sport Mode is a mild OC in CPU and GPU. The other modes are a detune from stock. I think even the middle "Comfort" setting is off from 100% full performance stock values.

    R(ead) T(he) F (docs) M

    RTFM == Read That Fine Manual :eek:
     
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    Did they also install MSI Afterburner? If not, uninstall the standalone Rivatuner, and install the bundle from MSI with upgraded/matching versions - selected to run together :)

    https://gaming.msi.com/features/afterburner
     
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    THe driver disk installed afterburner so i cannoit remember if it was preinstalled
     
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    Afterburner 4.2 / Rivatuner 6.4.1 are the newest download bundle available, check the versions you have installed.
     
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    Corrected
     
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    Looped 3D mark firestrike for 30 min w/ Max fans and 40x overclock (msi gaming center) And no temps were over 75-77C
     
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    To any fellow GT80 owner looking to project to a 4k tv at 60hz, I just received a mini dp to hdmi 2.0 adapter from accell (product no. B086B-012B) and it works great! Hooked it up to a vizio 65 inch 4k and DA:I looked absolutely amazing at a solid 60fps. I'd been looking for one of these adapters for awhile. I ordered directly from accell with no issues. Club 3d apparently makes one as well but it's been listed as out of stock on Amazon for awhile now, just thought I'd pass along my experience.
     
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    Can u pls provide Photos of cord?
     
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    Is there a way to do 3D @60 hz 4K ?
     
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    Figured out why my battery life is not so great -- msi turns off shifting when unplugged but holds previous shift settings and doesn't stop the overclock so it continues running in sports mode without me being able to switch off of it...
     
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    From the accell website product description:
    • 3D video support up to 1080p @120Hz
    Doesn't directly answer your question but I suppose the answer is probably no 3d at 4k 60hz.
     
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    Does it get hot or anything??? I have one like this but its usb to vga and it gets really hot its by a company that goes by something like Jcreate or something like that...
     
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    Just noticed there is a screw missing in the bottom of the laptop :eek:

    image.jpeg
     
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    @pat@XOTICPC

    I am really sorry to be bothering you again but is there any way you guys might be able to send me the screw?

    Thanks!
     
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    Even if oculus doesn't say that the 980m can handle VR, in SLI we definitely can. Also, I used HTC Vive at PAX south this year and it was an amazing experience. I am definitely looking forward to that, and since your link shows it is good/best to use 980m/980 SLI for the Vive, I think we are set :)
     
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    You're coming up a little short...

    Try +135 (maximum) and leave the VRAM at stock +0

    I have found that I can run at +135 +300 this way.

    If I bump up VRAM any more I have to reduce +135 all the way down to +125 with +400 VRAM.

    I get better performance from +135 +300, and I think it might be the power budget for the MXM card, I can increase power to max for GPU Core, but there isn't enough power left to max out the VRAM at the same time.
     
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    Anyone know a quick way to find answers to questions already asked in this forum? It's gotta be annoying people asking the same questions over and over. There should be an established FAQ for this.

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
     
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    +300?

    Does ur browser crash on the forum?
     
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