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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. last_rule

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    Having serious issues with my wifi.. ever since i set up the laptop im getting random disconnect and reconnects. yes ive updatetd all of my drivers
     
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    Is there any way to switch between integrated and discrete graphics outside of windows?

    I'm looking to dual boot Windows/Linux (windows for gaming only). I don't want to boot into windows, enable discrete then reboot every time I want to game.

    I looked in the bios but couldn't find it.
     
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    If you updated the driver to the latest Killer Suite and are still having random disconnects, it might be someone else's wireless router is near your routers center channel.

    Use the Killer Wireless Manager, part of the Killer Network Manager, to look at what else is on the air near you, and move your router center channel to a clearer spot. Default is channel 1 or 6, 11 is usually clearest.

    killer wifi landscape view.JPG

    Boost your power if you can, and move the router closer to where you operate. If the router is really close already, try dropping the power to the lowest setting too.

    Set your Power Plan advanced options for wireless to Maximum Performance on AC/Battery.

    Set Device Manager wireless adapter settings to not disable / turn off the power adapter to save power.

    Make sure you have the latest driver from Killer, not from MSI, and download and install the correct Bluetooth package as well:
    http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads

    Be sure and run the Killer Network Manager Settings automatic speed test, so that your Upload/Download speeds are known for calculations by the packet driver filter.

    That's about all you can do. If you are still getting disconnects, try another router. File a bug report with Rivet Software support and let them know about the router(s) that won't keep a connection with the 1525/1535.
     
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    Guess I'm not up with all the DVD/Bluray software! :p
     
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    Ask MSI via a support request, and let us know what they say :)
     
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    mneumann Newbie

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    Hey guys, my GT80 Titan power switch seems to have completely died. It worked fine yesterday and today it does nothing. Any ideas what is most likely the problem? I think I'm still under warranty so I will have to send it in I guess
     
  7. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    Disconnect the AC adapter, and make sure the power cable is securely plugged into the transformer part. Reconnect the AC adapter and try powering on the system again.
     
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    mneumann Newbie

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    I tried that first thing, thinking the battery must have just ran out and the plug was unplugged. Everything seems to be just the way I left it the night before, plugged in tight and ready to go. I'm nervous thinking about the cost of the repairs if my warranty is up. I bought it thru powernotebooks.com and they emailed me the receipt and I cannot find it anywhere. I seem to have myself set up for a problem lol. Now that powernotebooks.com is out of business I have no way to get a copy of my receipt.
     
  9. last_rule

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    Go register your device immediately on MSI.com. if it's still under warranty then you're good.
     
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    I registered it on msi.com and it says I still have warranty, but I guessed at the purchase date since I cannot find my receipt. I will call them ASAP to make sure I can get it in for service. Thank you all for the help !
     
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    Yep did the trick.
     
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    is there anywway to fix cpu heat issue ?? i have try reduce cpu clock speed i work but i lose about 15 fps in games
     
  13. Lumlx

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    What temps are you getting during gaming and what game you're playing?
     
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    all games when i start the game cpu heat up quckly to 80 c and fan speed up
    and the gpu in some games like black ops 3 and dragon age inquision gpu temp reach 77c
    is that mean i should repaste cpu and gpu or its normal?
     
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    any try external gpu over thundebolt on this laptop ?? is it safe
     
  16. hmscott

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    Which model GT80 do you have? I have a GT80 SLI-263.

    How old is it? How long have you been gaming on it? Do you Overclock?

    You can reduce the temps a bit, especially between high load sections of the game, but using the Balanced Performance Power plan, it downclocks the CPU when not under load, allowing it to cool down - running High Performance mode will run the CPU at full clock rate all the time.

    If you have played with the Nvidia 3D Global/game settings, try changing "Power Management Mode" to "Adaptive", that will allow the GPU to downclock when not under load. You need to reboot after making that change for it to take effect. This will reduce benchmark numbers, but likely be fine for gaming - check, you can always return it to "Prefer Maximum Performance" later.
     
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    i dont know the model but its gt80 2qe 4th cpu generation
     
  18. hmscott

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    What CPU model?, assuming SLI 980m's (?). Helpful for suggestions for reducing temps.

    You can use MSI Afterburner + Rivatuner to set the GPU Core and Memory speeds, and use Rivatuner to Limit FPS.

    It doesn't take much limiting of FPS to reduce temps far enough to stop major throttling.

    If you are running your display at 60hz, set the FPS Limit to 61fps, and that should kick the temps down far enough.

    If the game FPS is higher than 60hz, you can set the display hz to the average FPS, and set FPS Limit to hz+1 to cut off the runaway FPS in some sections, dropping frames generating heat, but not much advantage to gameplay.

    There are other tricks, like for CPU intensive games, limit the active cores for those games to 4 from 8 - the Hyperthreaded cores aren't really helping much, but generate a lot of heat.

    You can use Processor Affinity to set the active cores for Steam (before starting the game) to the "even" cores, like 0,2,4,8, and uncheck the "odd" cores like 1,3,5,7.

    Those 2 methods will reduce CPU temp, and allow you to OC your GPU's to provide the performance needed in GPU intensive games too.

    Please come back and let us know what you figure out works best for you :)
     
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    CARL JONES Notebook Consultant

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    Hi guys I just got My MSI GT80S TITAN SLI-012 with 6th Gen Intel Skylake Core i7 Processor, Some specs : 18.4" Full HD (1920 x 1080) Wide View Matte Display, 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Memory, Super RAID 4 256GB SSD (PCIE Gen3x 4) [128GB x 2] + 1TB 7200RPM Hard Drive, Blu-ray Burner, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M SLI 12GB GDDR5 Graphics Card, Microsoft Windows 10 Multi-language, Mechanical Cherry MX Brown Switch, Red backlight Steel Series Keyboard, but I bet you guys know all that LOL.

    I have lots of questions and need help setting up. Any help will be appreciated because I am finally making the move from console (Playstation 4 ) to PC gaming and decided to go all out. I researched hundreds of laptops and this is the best for the money. I did well because I do know a bit about notebooks just not much about "PC GAMING" and after seeing the specs on this and watching lots of you-tube I saw this thing is a real beast!

    So I'm ready to learn so no **** talking ok...
     
  20. abdullahq8

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    its works now very well thank you
     
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    Just tested it again and it seems to have charged some - wondering if it dropped 20% while asleep over night? Kinda weird considering it has ddr4 ram.
     
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    Although the sleep state consumes very little power, I wouldn't be surprised if this is normal on the GT80. Can you reproduce that 20% loss overnight consistently?
     
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    Idk will look tomorrow :p
     
  24. hmscott

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    Your GT80S shouldn't be dropping 22% in battery when shutdown overnight.

    I don't have any battery drop overnight when shutdown, GT80 SLI-263.

    Try disabling Hibernation, don't use sleep, and turn off the Charger+ option in the BIOS (needs to be turned off there, don't just disable the Windows MSI Charger+ app).

    In a Run As Administrator cmd window:

    powercfg /h off

    Then reboot, and when you shutdown, it's a real shutdown, not a hybrid one, so there should be no power drain on your battery.

    If you still have battery drain, try disconnecting all of your USB devices, leaving the GT80S USB ports empty overnight, there might be a firmware bug with allowing power on the USB ports after power off shutdown.
     
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    Shutdown = no. I agree.
     
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    Shutdown = power off = no battery loss :)
     
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    Definitely not a 20% loss. :vbwink: On sleep, I don't know what we'd be looking at.
     
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    power to usb ports when off is already off in bios -- came that way saying that it shouldn't be left on and could cause an over-discharge. Already had the supercharger application uninstalled. Not sure the keyboard is turning off when the computer goes to sleep/lid is shut?
     
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    If you are closing the lid to shut it off, it might be going to sleep or hibernating.

    Again, disable hibernation and don't use sleep, disconnect all USB devices from laptop, and shutdown within Windows. Do all of this to test to see if the battery discharging overnight when shutdown stops.

    After you verify it's stopped discharging, then you can turn on / plug in one thing at a time to find out what is causing the discharge.

    Shutdown in Windows with the lid up, for once to test. You will find the keyboard and trackpad unresponsive - if you don't use Hibernation/Sleep - and only the Power button will respond.
     
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    it is going to sleep when i shut it. However, i have never seen a 20% discharge during sleep
     
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    i use sleep between classes a lot so 20% is a big deal
     
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    Went to sleep at around 4:00 am last night -- put laptop to sleep and packed it up. This morning (8:00 ish) opened up laptop, and it showed only 88% charge

    image.jpeg

    What might cause this?
    I even disabled the blue ray in device manager. Nothing plugged into USB and USB charge+ disabled...

    @MSIGeno
     
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    System component (EC circuit) drains battery even when it's turned off.
     
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    whats the ec circuit? Does it do it when the computer is off as well?--does this have to do with the "ec reset" issues i have read about? Should I always keep the laptop charged above a certain point?
     
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    Wait, so you left it plugged in over night, and it lost charge?? Or did you leave it unplugged, and off the charger?

    It was left in Sleep mode?, or powered off with Hibernation/Sleep disabled?

    There is a BIOS option to turn off the EC after battery charge reaches full (100% or where it stops when conditioning). At least in my GT80 SLI-263 BIOS.

    Disabling things in Windows Device driver won't help, it's still plugged in, you just disabled control of it through Windows. :)

    I haven't used sleep for such a long time I don't even recall how much the normal discharge was, but I know it was significant. What is it for your Razer?

    Anyone else use Sleep mode on the GT80 over night and have a reading for their battery loss?

    I think most people leave it plugged in overnight to keep charged for the next day. The only time I recall checking sleep mode battery loss % was during trips with long delays between usage and AC plug-in time.
     
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    sleep mode, unplugged

    razer probably lost like 1-2% at most -- if it stayed asleep. Razer devices have a habit of randomly deciding to wake up and overheat in ur backpack
     
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    1-2% seems low, or a short time, I used to get 5%-10% with Macbook Pro's, more if a full 24 hours.

    To be fair, almost every laptop that I used sleep with has woken up in my backpack and generated lots of heat :)

    You should report the high battery usage under sleep to MSI.

    How much memory do you have? 2 or 4 sticks? Try taking out the 2 under the top panel, and see what the difference in battery drop overnight is.
     
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  38. ryzeki

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    The razer is also using optimus which completely shuts down the dGPU unless needed, while GT80 keeps both dgpus alive during sleep. Of course they are in low power mode but you still have considerably more power consumption out of the GT80 than the razer.

    Sleep is made to last only a couple of days at best, no matter what you do. I suggest you shutdown instead of sleep, and disable hibernation, as those two systems were needed when SSDs were not common and people wanted faster boots. Something that is not an issue at hand. Sleep is only for emergenices when working with some files, but even then.... windows 10 might just install and update without you noticing and reboot your machine anyways.
     
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    I don't use sleep mode or hibernate anymore, at least on purpose, I simply shutoff when not in use. Bootup times are a few seconds, and it's always a nice and clean boot, and avoids any issues like you're fighting now.

    Not saying it's a "fix" for the issue you're having, but it did resolve a lot of issues for me that I used to have. Nowadays I prefer a nice quick clean boot each time.
     
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    webcam drivers please webcam isnt even being recognized
     
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    Please refer to the first post here since it has been answered.
     
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    This happened to me, I disabled Webcam, and it's a Hidden device in Device Manager. You can look at Hidden devices, or load/run MSI SCM and click to enable Webcam:
    MSI SCM Webcam enable.jpg
    Here is what the Webcam looks like when it is enabled and shows up in Device Manager:
    GT80 SLI-263 Webcan in Device Manager.JPG
    You can also access via Fn +F6 , described here:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...us-owners-lounge.785384/page-67#post-10204133

    Oh yeah, please stop double posting to both GT80(S) threads with the same question. Both are read, this one more than the other, if that helps.
     
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    Anyone buy from amazon and not get a promo code? just curious about the process
     
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    Has anyone tried to replace the microphone spdif connectors? My microphone spdif connector has stopped working due to carelessness. Was looking to replace the connector but it does not appear easy to access.


    Is there a guide showing how to access those connectors?
     
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    So I had a guy try to tell me that the MSI GT80 -009 SLI doesnt have "real" SLI, he said somtimes they use a booster box to fake it. Is this true or is he just blowing **** in my face because he doesnt know wtf hes talking about.
     
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    Well ask him if that's a "real" SLI bridge and why the hell when it's disconnected nothing seems to work right.. Seems like a lot of work for potential lawsuits. I also had a guy tell me the 980m's aren't 8GB cards. He refused to believe it. Understandable.. I think MSI and ASUS are the only 2 manufacturing them with that much vram.
     
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    Most of the asus laptops I have seen are only 4 gb vram
     
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    Their highest end G752 has 8gb. It's about 3200 bucks. Kind of a waste when the GT80 comes with an extra card for 200 more lol
     
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    How often do you observe issue during surfing over internet :"Display driver stopped responding and has recovered" ? During maxload/gaming issue doesn`t appear.
     
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    It might be a problematic Nvidia driver, there have been many recently.

    Try uninstalling the Nvidia driver with DDU - run it and it will ask to reboot in Safe Mode to uninstall, when it reboots, install the recently release 361.91 - Custom, Clean, only select Video Driver, HD Audio, and Physx - don't install the 3D / Miracast / Geforce Experience.

    Here is the DDU 15.7.4.1 download:
    http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

    Nvidia driver download, set your GPU, Windows release - download 361.91:
    http://www.geforce.com/drivers
     
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