***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

I will try .

 

is there any application to control the FAN because the trigger goes to maximum speed

 

Try Silent Option from MSI. That's what I use. The button for fan indeed is made for max fan speeds.

 

Is that a separate application I can grab from the MSI support pages? I'd like to run quieter when just browsing and not needing extra speed or cooling.

 

You should have MSI Gamin Center installed. Using FN+F7 keys you can switch between modes: Green-Comfor-Sport, where green is making least noise and sport is more aggressive profile.

 

I knew about that, but I guess I thought there may be a "silent" mode as he stated. I've switched back and forth many times and the fans sound the same to me in all three modes when I'm just surfing. Would be nice to turn them down even more since it runs so cool and I don't need much clockspeed.

 

mine runs silent all the time don't know what ur talking about -- even on high performance, mine runs silent

 

It's easily noticeable (the noise) when you are in a dead silent area. It doesn't mean the machine is super LOUD, but it is not dead silent haha I get what Porter means.

 

My GT80 purrs like a kitten during normal use...

Under full performance 100% load, it roars like a Lion!!

@Porter - If you are bothered by noise, even the purring of a kitten, I would recommend going outside more often, and re-train your ears from that of a hermit to that of a normal person.

 

Hahaha, for me, the cooling pad is far noisier than the GT80 under normal use.

 

Same for me, I unplugged the cooler fan to check, and most of the noise was the laptop cooler.

So I guess my laptop cooler is purring like a kitten, adding my GT80 fan noise, they are purring like 2 kittens

 

That may be, but I want it even silenter lol.

Maybe on my GT80S the CPU makes more noise or fan profiles are different, or I am just being picky. I can definitely hear a fan noise and hoped while sitting idle I could get it to be either off or at least run even slower yet. More than the noise I just don't want the fan running all day even when its sitting idle.

 

I have MSI Game Center uninstalled, so I only use the MS power plans + XTU for tuning the CPU, where most of the need for cooling is during desktop use - GPU fans only kick-in while gaming.

To keep the fans low speed, I use Balanced Power Plan, that keeps the idle CPU speed under 1ghz, otherwise in the High Performance power plan it stays at 4.0ghz all the time, and heat can build up to the point of needing the fans to run to cool the CPU.

I also run with a -20mV at 4.0ghz -20mv cache @ 34x, which reduces heat generation a bit more.

Recently I have been playing with the cache multiplier, as low as 18x - from 34x stock.

Using the cache multiplier trick I can increase negative voltage offset to -60mV as well, and using that trick I can sustain CPU multiplier of 38x (4 cores) indefinately, where at 34x cache it was 35x max (4 cores).

The idea is to keep heat generation from happening, then you stop the fans.

You could run at a special quiet XTU profile, running the CPU at 4x 35x cores and 34x cache with -100mv, that's my old go to setting for running long batch jobs.

Play around with it, and I am sure you can reduce the fan noise further.

 

Most high end gaming laptops CPU fan will always be running. It's just a requirement when you put that much power in a laptop.

Desktops will run with no fan if you have a huge air cooler, and even water cooling can run idle with no fans and the right radiator - pumps are always going.

Unless you have a ULV CPU in a small laptop, then there might be a range of operation that the fan won't kick on, but even there I see people saying their fans are running.

It might also be your environment. If the fans exhaust is echoing off hard reflection materials, instead of soft aborbing materials, and/or the reflection angle and your ears meet optimally, you will hear the smallest sounds.

Try putting a rug square under your cooler/laptop, change the direction your exhaust fans are pointing, and move any objects behind the laptop that might be reflecting sound back to you.

I have my laptop cooler proping up my laptop at about a 35' angle, which is pushing the air/noise away into the longest distance for reflection, a far wall that the noise likely isn't even reaching.

Play around with placement, and see if that helps too

 

Another trick is to reduce the load created by having lots of tabs open in your browser. With all the animated gifs/flash going these days you need to stop that going on in tabs you aren't active in.

I use flashblock, noscript, and other various tools in Firefox, and in Chrome I use: The Great Suspender or OneTab, Ublock Origin, FlashControl.

Using those, and closing tabs that are using too many resourses stops the higher idle CPU usage, reducing heat generation, stopping the need for the fans to ramp up.

 

oh I have mine running nice and cool. I just read the "silent mode" comment, and as others have said it doesn't really run any quieter, that's all. It's not the noise, I just wanted the fan not working as hard just sitting idle.

 

I don't remember what are my fan tables right now but I think I placed in a way I kick in higher rpms until near 70s or so. It's difficult to know the actual temp because Silent Option only has a bar with colors, but I think I placed it in a way it runs at lower RPMs that don't bother me as much for the 30-60s range, and then kick it up a notch over 60s, more over 70s, and way more if it reaches hot temp.

 

Hey guys my mamba just died after 5 years of good use from a battery expanding and causing the bottom plate to bulge...

I was looking at the sensei wireless... Anyone have any experiences with that mouse or with Steelseries in general?

Any other mouse suggestions?

 

Accessories
Mice, backpacks and other external peripherals forum.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/forums/accessories.17/

 

I wanted to ask fellow gt80 users what mice they use not random ppl on the Internet lol

 

The same NBR people that post in this GT80 forum also post in lots of other forums here on NBR.

And, there are lots of other NBR people that never visit the GT80 forum because they own other makes/models of gaming laptops, they talk about lots of other things, including what kind of mouse they like.

It's a new idea for you, but consider it, post on topic in the threads that are about the particular topical question you have to ask.

Everybody's doing it, come on in, the waters fine.

Spoiler

Mice questions and answers are on topic in the Accessories forum threads.

Accessories
Mice, backpacks and other external peripherals forum.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/forums/accessories.17/

You can find lots of posts already there talking directly about the Mouse question you asked, likely already answered many many times.

"On topic" - What a concept

Here's some now, right on the first page:

New Mouse for gaming and ordinary use.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/new-mouse-for-gaming-and-ordinary-use.787736/#post-10198875

Advice: Wireless Optical Gaming Mouse
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/advice-wireless-optical-gaming-mouse.787092/

Mouse USB Polling Rate - Need software running?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/mouse-usb-polling-rate-need-software-running.787595/

best mouse for 40$ ?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/best-mouse-for-40.786209/

Best Wireless Gaming Mouse? Anything better than G602?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/best-wireless-gaming-mouse-anything-better-than-g602.783290/

See? Mice, Mice, and more Mice, all on topic, and all with people from all over the NBR spectrum of laptop model owners.

You can even start your own thread if you want. It's free.

Random people on the internet are cool man

 

its ok i got the battery out and the bottom plate seems to have righted itself... hoping for least 3 more years of good use at out of it

 

Steam now has a SteamVR Performance test
http://store.steampowered.com/app/323910/

The good news for GT80(S) 980m SLI owners is that with Full OC on both CPU and GPU, the 980m SLI is in the Green.

The bad news is at stock settings it's not in the Green, it's in the Yellow, which is apparently still Capable of running SteamVR titles.

The other details of the test show it's not dropping any frames and it's consistently running over 90fps at stock settings.

The test only uses 1 980m GPU, just like regular VR will.

Spoiler

Tested at 4.0ghz CPU and +135 +300 GPU

Tested at 4.0ghz CPU and Stock GPU settings

Tested at Stock CPU/GPU settings

 

Pascal!!!! We need pascal!!! Why no sli for VR?

 

Yep, as you mentioned It's because it is not using SLI. A single 980m is slightly slower on stock than a 970 which is why we are on the yellow. I tested it forcing SLI and nothing happened because it did not pick my GPU. Other's have reported to be able to run in Cross fire or SLI but so far no luck for me.

On stock it was running without OC between 110 and 130fps. I imagine that with SLI we would have much higher performance.

Steam VR, Vive, nvidia etc all have confirmed that VR indeed will use SLI with different methods, but for now there are no games in VR that use SLI and no development yet to test, so they can't force a "fake" result using SLI if a game won't support it.

Indeed VR SLI will happen.

 

My Area-51 got 8.2/8.3 in that benchmark... LOL

 

I got a 7.3 OC and 6.8 stock with the GT80S with 980's. Interesting to see how much better a true desktop 980 does.

 

That's a nice bump up from the 980m 6.1 OC and 5.6 Stock

We both would get over 11.0 - 980ti class results - if SLI was utilized.

 

11 is the limit is it not? An LN2 overclock could easily test that.

Here's with GPU OC

 

@n=1 980ti got 11, he'd like a Cookie

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/steamvr-performance-test.788566/#post-10206130

 

Anyone observed overheating in battlefild starwars all maxed out in 1920x1080 . One of vga card is hotter about 11 degrees C and when it reach 92 C it is throttling . The game is unplayable in SLI . The worst thing in this laptop is cooling system.

 

Something must be wrong there. I've just tested with Star Wars Battlefront on my 2x980M Titan. After 20mins, both cards were running at about 75c, and each card was only loaded at about 60% usage. This was also at 1080p all settings maxxed. You should not be close to maxing both cards on this game.

 

Is anyone using the 361.91 drivers and noticing constant TDR's under windows when running on battery? When running from the mains power everything is perfectly stable, but from battery I'm getting TDR's literally every minute. Its not a massive issue as I always runs from the mains power, but I was curious if anyone is experiencing the same issue. Win8.1 64bit.

 

I haven't really used battery much, but I was getting them occasionally on AC so I rolled back to an older driver and haven't had one since. I actually tried the last 2 or 3 driver releases and they all did it, when I got to the one I am on I just decided to stay with it for now. It was the December 19th driver I believe.

Eventually I will try one again but I don't want to fight each new release like that.

 

@Quokka
Upscalling 200%, Antyaliasing on ? Drivers 361.91 ?

 

DSR is a waste of resources, I tried it and don't notice any difference on the internal display.

Even with 99% utilization on both 980m's and 100% CPU I don't ever see the temps you are seeing. You should consider contacting your seller / MSI for help re-pasting.

Pretty much mid 70's is the highest GPU temps I see, and mid 80's CPU.

If you are going to load down the GPU/CPU with DSR, run the full fan for max cooling, which I have to assume you aren't doing if you are seeing those high temps. Fan's are for cooling

Do you have your laptop elevated in the rear, with a clear space behind to vent the hot air? If you are venting into a closed area you will feed hot air back into the air intake under the laptop.

If you can, orient your laptop exhaust into free space. I have my laptop at about 35 degrees elevation, and venting into free space, nothing is close enough to reflect heat back to the intakes.

What is your ambient temperature? 70F or 23c is typical.

 

Remember I am majster msi - msi engineer from the past. Probably I know more tips/tricks than them on this model. I am just asking users if they observe such an issue. I am testing some power user features in bios like PEG 3 vs AUTO and etc. All of you you have locked bios with blocked /unvisible options. The problem is only forcing PEG3 ( pci-e 3.0 vs pci-e 2.0).
Playing with forced PEG 3 for both MXMIII is far more smoother - however one of vga is very hot .
Unfortunatelly in all msi gt80 one vga is much hotter :

From 52 minute. In some games it reach 92 degrees and it is throttiling. I don`t belive that somebody has the same temperature on both vga crds .

Update:
In Starwars Battlefront on AUTO settings for PEG it reaches also 92 degrees on 2nd Vga card and it is throttling . SLI in msi gt80 it is not good idea .

 

Has anyone gotten rise of the Tomb Raider maxed out at 60fps? I'm getting 45-50 non-oc

 

Just for information for GentechPC , before you remove vga card first you need to remove battery cable - it is not worth to make shortcircuit on mxmIII and vga card .

Min - 18:30
I hope msi will change cooling module for 980 non m (especially that with thin heat pipes) and unfortunately no ;/ so new model will be throttling when it reaches 92 degrees as weal in games like battlefield star wars.

 

Sorry man, working at MSI doesn't give you a free pass to trash the GT80, especially since most owners here report totally different results.

No throttling for either GPU, and temps that are balanced and not exceeding mid 70's most of the time under 100% usage.

You have something wrong with your unit, get it fixed, and please stop trashing the GT80 in general here. Wait for your unit to get fixed, and then rethink your opinion.

Your experience with working at MSI obviously didn't include experience working with the GT80 series, otherwise you wouldn't have this skewed view from one faulty example.

For any series you can find examples that missed QA and people report them, but that skews the view of the majority of users.

Highly experience people are spending top dollar for the GT80 for over a year now, and if your opinion / experience were the same for the majority of owners, this forum would be full of reports like yours. And, there aren't.

That's good news for you

The overwhelmingly good owner reports on the GT80 for over a year means that after your GT80 gets serviced to fix the cooling, you are going to be very happy with your new GT80

 

Hey buddy, I would say it's worth pulling appart and repasting if you haven't already. I know you have owned it for a while and the conventional stuff dries out. I never tested peg3 but I whised I would have before selling. Have you tested the difference in graphics score between the two settings?

You are referring to the 980m sli right? If not the new 980sli does run a bit hot for my liking too in addition to the power limits.

Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk

 

Have you checked with MSI about this? And see what they say about it?
Perhaps you just need a RMA.

 

SLI scaling is crap in Tomb Raider at the moment. I can get 60fps in some places, but dropping to 40-45 in others. Hopefully some future drivers and/or a game update will help address this. Also, purehair REALLY kills the performance, especially in cutscenes.

 

@hmscott
I have tested 5 of gt80 so just test it ! Just launch battlefront all maxed out scalling 200% play on map with ship fighting and you will see 92 degrees with throttling. Msi now is fighting with nvidia driver stopped responding bla bla ... just see on msi web page and driver version for msi gt80 (probably stable) . We have figured out that also in 4x SSD m2 KINGSTONE there is stability problem freezing/BSOD and msi is swapping it for Toshiba SSD. Probably KINGSTONE firmware failure.

I am in contact with msi engineers (my friends whom I was working with) so please don`t tell me what to do . It is forum for peple who should know that there is a problem. Of course some of you could think guy is talking bull... however I am not. Msi knows that there is a problem but even my friends is asking them for support they firstly don`t see the problem and after 2 weeks they gives poor solution like with old vga drivers. The issue with overheating is a new case.BTW you can swap vga cards, heatsinks, repasting with gelid extreme and phobya 7k thermalpads and so on and you will get around 80 C degrees on main vga and on second 92 C . It is confirmed on 5 msi gt80 in SLI.

 

Which models? Are they the currently shipping Skylake GT80S models, or the Haswell GT80 models?

I have a GT80 SLI-263, Broadwell 5950HQ, and there aren't many of those in the wild, but if you have one of those as part of the 5 then I want to know.

BF didn't interest me during the Beta, but temps never reached what you are seeing.

No other games, or batch jobs I run at 100% CPU / 100% on both GPU's get the temps for GPU out of the 70's for me. When under that kind of load, I run the fans at Full speed using the fan switch.

The Toshiba 128 M.2 SATA drives don't get anywhere near as hot as the M.2 PCIE x4 drives get, but they do fail. I have 1 failed 128GB that only ran a few days before dieing. I moved to MX200 4x500GB M.2's and haven't had any crashing problems.

Thanks for the heads up on the failing PCIE x4 drives, that was a concern of mine with all the heat generation at that part of the GT80 motherboard with 4 M.2 drives + CPU on the other side, 3 M.2's for PCIE/SATA in the GT80S.

You keep digging up failure modes, that noone else is reporting.

Maybe pull back on the hyperbole like:

"SLI in msi gt80 it is not good idea ."

And, just report the fact details without the commentary / guesswork.

Because that comment looks silly in light of others day to day experience with the GT80, you are just wrong, SLI in the GT80 works great.

Stop using DSR 2:1, it's a useless load on the GPU. Really, not helpful in any way, on the 1080p screen there is no perceptible improvement - certainly not worth driving the GPU's hard enough to overheat - again noone else is reporting this.

I run all my games at native 1080p, 100fps, screen at 100hz, and enjoy it immensely and the GPU temps stay in the 70c range.

If you want to push things to ridiculous limits, and cause problems for the MSI engineers, that's up to you, but please don't use it as a flying off point to trash the GT80 in general here.

It's not realistic.

 

I can try testing PEG3, to see how it goes. One GPU indeed is always hotter but for the most part for me has been 70 vs 80, not 90s. Including witcher 3 maxed at 4K. But it does get really hot.

 

I believe part of the problem with one of the GPU sides is that it is mirrored and the heatpipes cool differently. Since both GPUs are identical but heatpipes travel mirrored, one side is always hotter. Do you get to 92 even with turbofan?

 

I am talking about haswell 4720/4980. However gpu is the same like heatsinks . It will be the same problem there. I know that in your model there is a fix for unstability with operating system in some cases BSOD - new intel firmware which is installed automaticaly in service in each unit which came to ERC (service in EU).
About SLI in gt80 yes it is working until it reach 92 ;/ . I will record movie soon . Maybe after that msi will rework this crappy right heatsink .
@ryzeki
Yep turbo fan didn`t help unfortunately. You can play sw battlefield without scalling 200% and you will never reach 92. Just move slider (scalling)on 200% and others options maxed out and you will obtain magic 92 . From 60 fps - vsync on yo will observe 30, 45 fps - throttling.
I don`t want to discus about scalling option I want it to be 200% and I have right for it paying a lot of money for gt80.

 

They only need to add a third fan and move the back ports to the sides so we have dedicated full cooling out the back.

 

Just for clear one thing GT80 SLI-263, Broadwell 5950HQ - it is the same motherboard ms-1812 the just soldered 5950HQ in 4980hq cpu. Skylake version it is a new mainboard ms-1814 which is probably compatible with new Samsung ssd m2 drive . https://www.google.pl/search?q=samsung+950pro+m.2&biw=1536&bih=770&tbm=isch&imgil=zE6etVz2vP2z8M%3A%3B88SoNVZuodutRM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.gizmodo.com.au%252F2015%252F09%252Fsamsungs-950-pro-is-a-massively-fast-super-tiny-ssd%252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=zE6etVz2vP2z8M%3A%2C88SoNVZuodutRM%2C_&usg=__2dwkRfiqDyhSjM3MzoxGxQEaXYw=&ved=0ahUKEwiC38qVnpbLAhUEGZoKHaweBY8QyjcIMw&ei=H7HQVsLTLYSy6ASsvZT4CA#imgrc=zE6etVz2vP2z8M:

However there are known problems also with ms-1814 ... however it is not right topic to talk about it (just for information sabre DAC ).
I don`t want to argue with somebody. You can tell me that on this forum there are users that didn`t noticed problems I talked about. Just belive me every day in ERC (the biggest service center in Europe - msi) in my city , users are sending their notebooks - around 100 per day ! Per day in tyaht 100 pcs there are around 5-8 Gt80 with issues I am talking abaut.