***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

Then please make it clear that under normal use the GT80 is running fine, for me even up to 100fps + 100hz screen + Ultra settings with everything enabled.

Only 200% DSR is doing the overheating for you, right?

If you insist on breaking your GT80, knowing DSR 200% is the only thing that will do it, then that's up to you

I don't think your efforts are going to amount to anything with MSI, except for them to issue new firmware to stop it from happening.

Which means MSI will pre-throttle / reduce the top end performance to stop over temp with DSR 200% scaling.

Which will likely reduce performance earlier than needed, and reduce performance for all other games.

MSI won't RMA the heatsinks retroactively in the Haswell GT80's, and the only thing they can do is to cap performance via firmware, which would be bad for all of us.

Please stop pursuing this with MSI, as MSI is not the root cause of the problem.

Pursue this with Nvida / Pandemic Studios / Pandemic Studios

 

The GT80s Skylake Edition is the only topic worth considering for 90% of the new owners visiting here; that's the GT80S release they will have available for purchase.

The GT80S Skylake Edition is the predominant model being shipped and available for purchase.

Maybe include a line saying these problems are tested for GT80 Haswell models, not GT80S Skylake models, so as to not unduly alarm new potential owners. It's not considerate of their need for reliable info before they purchase.

The comments you are making will unduly scare off potential GT80S owners.

Implying your MSI work background makes you an authority on the subject to lend weight to your rash public comments is irresponsible, and certainly a termination offense if you were still working for MSI.

You are making unduly alarming comments based on a single game running DSR, and pushing it past the limit that doesn't apply to anything else anyone else has reported over the last year for the GT80 Haswell / Broadwell / Skylake models.

What you should be saying, IMHO, is a warning to not use DSR with SWBF, it unduly loads the GT80 Haswell model GPU's causing them to enter the throttling zone. And, running with normal resolution doesn't have any problems what so ever.

That's being responsible with informative help, not being an alarmist using a single non-typical case to declare "SLI in msi gt80 it is not good idea .", that's being ludicrous.

What you have been doing is running into a Theater full of people, and yelling "Fire"!!

That's not cool. Considering you should have added, "...only if you start a Fire.".

 

It should be noted that years ago Nvidia put in detection for some GPU benchmarks that would aggravate utilization of their GPU's over and above normal gaming use that could burn out Nvidia GPU's.

Nvidia put in vbios limits for those app's utilization to stop the abuse and protect their Nvidia card buyers from destroying their GPU's.

Star Wars Battlefront II + DSR are the root cause problem with what @majster msi is seeing.

It's a good idea to avoid DSR with Star Wars Battlefront II until Nvidia / SWBFII Developer fixes the problem.

It's likely any laptop running DSR with Star Wars Battlefront is going to heat up their Nvidia GPU, generate unusually high temperatures, and throttle.

Beware

 

majster msi - Its extremely frustrating that it was not until later posts that you bothered to explain you were running in DSR. Your earlier posts have the potential to unduly worry GT80 owners, and you are doing nothing but sowing unfounded fears. Surprise surprise, running DSR on a laptop with a native 1080p res is going to push it hard, not surprising since the GT80 is designed around pushing out good framerates at 1080p. If you are going to push it has hard as you have been doing, then at the very least runs the fans at max via the hardware button on the laptop or fan control software.

 

I used to be able to dsr on my gt80s without overheating - was some lag though. Also dsr is supposed to replace anti aliasing making it easier to run stuff in some cases while improving overall quality

My CPU is what keeps throttling or messing up at 200% res on battlefront random lag glitches when turning and passing objects.

 

The msi website lists the gt80s as having HDMI 2.0 - does this mean it can output 4K at 60 fps?

 

Wow, so what do you think changed? Driver? SWBFII update? OC settings?

 

I was going to test this for you but I don't have any HDMI 2.0 displays. I have two 4k and a 2.5k display, only one has a HDMI 1.4 connection. I can get 37 hz out of that one The rest are DP connections and can get 60 hz on the 4k's and 150 hz on the 2.5k.

 

This was from before the crash.

 

I have a Sony 850C - it only has HDMI ports and I think all are 1.4... I'd it possible to combine 2 ports to make it 60 HZ?

 

Wow, so what do you think changed? Driver? SWBFII update? OC settings?

 

Nvr mind they are 2.0

Not sure 2.0 supports 60 fps full under though and the tv has native 120 refresh rate...

Can I do 3D on it?

Spoiler: Spoiler (tv specs)

Quick Specs

• 4K Ultra HD providing 4x the resolution of 1080p
• 4K X-Reality PRO picture engine for best picture from any source
• TRILUMINOS Display reproduces highly accurate color and clarity
• Motionflow XR 960
• 120Hz native rehresh rate
• ClearAudio+ Digital Sound Processing (DSP)
• Audio Power Output : 10W+10W
• Speaker Configuration : 2ch, Full Range (30 x 80 mm) x 2
• HDMI 2.0 means 4K content at 60p is possible
• Future proofed with HEVC codec for support of future 4K content
• Built-in Wi-Fi
• Screen Mirroring - Miracast
• Active 3D
• 2 USB ports, 4 HDMI inputs, Component 1 (hybrid)
• Google Cast
• Android TV
• TV only: 57 1/4 x 33 1/4 x 3 1/8 (9/16) inches
• TV with stand: 57 1/4 x 35 1/8 x 10 1/2 inches

 

Lowering CPU oc helped a little but still not fix issue - I think it was a CPU issue but could be more to it...

 

Try running at stock CPU/GPU again like when you first tried DSR, am I recalling correctly that was the case? You tried DSR before OC?

 

I tried dsr at high performance 41x CPU but CPU was unstable so I had to drop it to 40x which had slightly better results

 

Can't, my laptop, the personal property of a sentient geek, got run over by a 200 pound robot...

 

And, what I was suggesting was running at stock speeds, 36x for the 6820HK? That might reduce the heat generated and throttling caused enough to make it playable with DSR.

Oh yeah, how are the GPU temps on your GT80S 980m's running DSR in SWBFII?

 

Not now

After RMA.

Asimov's 1st Law - subsection A - do not do harm or allow harm to personal property of sentient being... need to add that...

 

I think they were 85-87 C but I didn't run it for very long

 

Updated

 

M.2 SATA 1TB's are available and shipping

1 tb m2 2280 drives
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/1-tb-m2-2280-drives.786502/page-7#post-10209724

Sandisk X400 1TB M.2 2280 SATA SSD Solid State Drive - SD8SN8U-1T00-1122 - $279
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sandisk-X40...142573?hash=item1eac1602ed:g:5AMAAOSwuAVWzmsI

And, more sellers are showing up now in Google search:
https://www.google.com/search?q=SD8SN8U-1T00-1122&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

 

I saw that earlier and ordered 3 from ebay. This upgrade failed for me a few weeks ago when I ordered from amazon and got the wrong drives. We shall see this time. I will report back the performance downgrade from the PCIe drives and if RAID will work across both SATA and PCIe M.2 slots (on GT80S version).

 

@dAdE0H0 got one already and likes it, I hope he posts some performance numbers...
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/1-tb-m2-2280-drives.786502/page-8#post-10210839

At $279 for the M.2 version, it's cheaper than the 2.5" 7mm version by few bucks

SanDisk X400 SSD SATA 2.5" 7mm 1TB
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-X400-SSD-SATA-2-5/dp/B0195B30KG

You could get 1 of those 2.5" X400 1TB's too, and do a 4x RAID0

 

I have a 2TB SSD in that slot, and I already tried, you cannot RAID with the 2.5". The M.2 I am not sure about.

 

Ok guys I tried to update my Bios and looked at that SOP...I DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING THAT. I love gaming PCs. but why is it so complicated to just update your PC? Will I have to pay someone to do this? I know how to DL and install software and do other things with a PC but this is some next level stuff at least for me. I thought that I was pretty good with PCs and can do some stuff but I have never did this Bios thing and I'm having issues with my PC. with my Sony I went to the website selected my model and stuff DLed and installed. never this...HELP!!!!

 

It's not complicated. Simply download the BIOS package, unzip it to an USB flash drive.
Boot to BIOS, go to next page and run IN-BIOS updater. It will search for the USB flash drive and the file will be accepted to proceed.

If you are not sure, go through the procedure first and then ask if you are stuck.

 

Oh man, I want to get a loan only to RAID 0 four of those drives.

 

I tried but did not work, it must be because I use win10

 

When I did the 4x RAID0 of M600/Evo 850/MX200 you hit the limit of the chipset to transfer data. I only got ~1825MB/sec instead of the over 2200MB/sec I hoped for.

But, 1825MB/sec is faster than the 1650MB/sec I was getting with 2x RAID0, so it's still an improvement

The GT80S could do a bit better if it had 4x M.2, but it only has 3x M.2, and apparently the 2.5" bay won't RAID0 with the M.2's per @Porter so that's that.

Still, 4x 1TB M.2 + 1TB 2.5" = 5TB is awesome

4x 1TB M.2 + 2TB 2.5" = 6TB is even more so

It's too bad the 4TB 2.5" drives are about $2000, because 8TB is even more bigger

 

I am also in windows 10 with silent option fully working for me.

 

Can you do me a favor, and tell me if there really is a "silent" option that you have or is it just the "green" option that I have in my dragon center?

From conversations on here, I see them as totally different things. The "green" option I have, is absolutely no quieter than turbo mode, while surfng and just doing basic tasks. Which ironically the only time I would even care to have it a little quieter. It may be quieter while gaming, but why would i play games in such a gimped mode?

A true "silent" option is when the fans run lower speed or off, and the cpu runs a few degrees hotter, in exchange for a quieter system (like a library, or surfing with the wife right next to you). I had this on past laptops, I think my Gigabyte had a nice implementation of this, maybe my lenovo did too I can't remember.

I'm sorry but the whole "runs hotter is worse" comments don't sit well with me. Usability has to have some influence otherwise the fans should be on max all the time if that is truely all that matters! Plus I think most laptops I've had, ran 20-40C hotter and I never heard any complaints about longevity on those! (Sager/Lenovo/Alienware/Gigabyte to name a few)

 

With silent option I mean this https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=255972.0

I have it tweaked in advanced settings, so that fans kick in nearly at the end of the curve. That way it stays mostly silent during non heavy use. The whole "runs hotter is worse" are just... well, for protection. The equipment is made to run under those settings anyways, and it won't run better or or worse as long as you are within the expected temps. It is actually "worse" for equipment to have a high delta of temps between idle and running, if the delta is cooled quickly.

I have had many hot running laptops, hotter than the GT80, that still work today and are over 6 years old.

 

you are using the application dragon gaming center? Because for me not had much use and uninstalled it, now I do not understand how silent option works for u, because I change the speed of the FAN for it and nothing happens

 

I do not use the dragon gaming center, I use the software silent option and choose the advanced options, and made my own fan speed table based on temperatures.

And it does work, but changing the slider of +20% speed does nothing because it not instantaneous, it means it will raise its max speed by 20%. If previously you ran at around 50% when gaming, it should now run at 70%. It does not mean you add 20% to all temperature points, like with Idle.

I have set mine to run at 90% speed when at the max temp, then 70% on the previous step, and then lower like 40s to 30s on the rest, so that it is not noisy unless it gets hot. I noticed that the highest speed triggers around the 70 degrees or so. It would be cool if we could modify the temps as well to fully customize it.

 

Can we use SD Card instead?

 

Hi

Does anyone know how I can safely remove the keys from the mechanical keyboard? Mine are getting pretty grubby and need a good clean.

I never received the removal tool that I was told is included in the box, I attempted to contact MSI support for a tool but they were not helpful and fobbed me off.

Any ideas?

Thanks

 

WASD Wire Keycap Puller Tool
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index....accessories/wasd-wire-keycap-puller-tool.html
http://www.amazon.com/WASD-Keyboards-Wire-Keycap-Puller/dp/B00AZCGF7K

A few more choices:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...puters&field-keywords=Keyboards+Keycap+Puller

 

Yes you can replace with standard key caps. These are the ones I got that came with the keycap remover. The reason I got them was because they are red, show the backlight through them and are textured.

They are not the highest quality, the letters are not as nice as I would have liked and the backlight bleeds through the keys beyond just the letters. They do sit perfectly level with other keys and the textures makes it easy to stay centered on WASD.

http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Replacement-Mechanical-RBKC18-RE/dp/B00T6P9X0S

 

Thank you for the quick replies I've just ordered a filo puller from Amazon for £3

Thanks guys

 

FYI the 362.00 drivers are running fine for me on my GT80. Temps the same a previous versions, and the performance seems similar also. So far the following games STILL have issues with SLI scaling (not fully resolved):

- Just Cause 3.
- Rise of the Tomb Raider.
- Far Cry Primal.
- X-COM 2 (cover icons missing since previous driver release, but SLI scaling is much better).
- Fallout 4

In all these games, I'm getting dips below 60FPS even though both cards are not being fully used. CPU load is also below max. Very playable in all cases, but not as it should be of course.

 

Hi all!

Does somebody has the bare bone of this system?

http://www.xoticpc.com/force-msi-1814-xx-xxx-dual-970m-6820.html

And can the laptop run with only 1 video card?

 

I haven't seen a lot of people offering the non-MSI branded model (such as we offer that GT80 as the Force model). I don't know if it is possible to purchase one without the 2nd graphics card in there, I don't think I have seen anything other than the SLI models available.

 

MSI did not release barebone for all current platforms.
The last release was for the Haswell.

 

But says... Intel Skylake i7-6820HK ?

 

Hey all, I have a simple question. Has anyone tried out the latest drivers? (364.47) I have heard some people are having issues such as restart loops, and I want to make sure that they are safe to update to before updating to them. Has anyone here updated to them? If so, have you had any issues with updating?

 

It's too early to try, at least for me. I let it go for most of a week, watching the feedback forum at Nvidia before deciding whether to spend time on trying a new Nvidia driver.

364.47 is already looking pretty bad for many. Already 15 pages of posts, that's way more posts way faster than any other recent driver release.

Official 364.47 Game Ready WHQL Display Driver Feedback Thread (Released 3/7/16)
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...y-driver-feedback-thread-released-3-7-16-/15/

362.00 is working great for me on all games, most of my games have full balanced SLI as well, and playing for hours it's stable at my OC of +135 +300.

I would recommend 362.00, and pass on the 364.47 release, even without trying it, which I likely won't.

If you have any of the new games the driver was released to support, you will likely want to try them, so let us know how it works out

Tom Clancy's The Division & Need For Speed Game Ready Driver Released
(Tom Clancy's The Division, Need For Speed, Hitman, and Ashes of the Singularity)
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/tom-clancys-the-division-game-ready-drivers-released

And, already a response from Nvidia on the wide spread install problems for multiple monitors, with a workaround:

Spoiler

"Installation issues with GeForce driver version 364.47
Answer ID 4054 | Published 03/07/2016 09:28 AM | Updated 03/07/2016 09:35 AM
Installation issues with GeForce driver version 364.47
We have received reports of some users having issues installing today's Game Ready Driver, version 364.47.

Initial investigation suggests the issue is isolated to multiple-monitor configurations. Should you experience issues, you can either disconnect one monitor during the driver installation (and reconnect once completed) or you can uninstall the driver through Windows Safe-Mode and revert to a previous version.

Our driver team is actively investigating the issue and we will have more information shortly."
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4054

 

just confirming these work for 980M and 970M MXM 3.0B cards.

 

Just for information. In some revisions of motherboards in gt80 for example 607-18121-020 (i7 4980hq model) haptic feedback doesn`t work. There is no connector on mainboard for device. Even when connector is soldered haptic feedback doesn`t work. Seems to be working only with it 4720 motherboard revision.

 

My 4980hq MB did work so maybe only the early version. However I took the device out and pulled the wires off the back of the motor by accident so just never ordered another one. I resourced mine from an HTC cell phone

Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk

 

Right, it was just some of the first versions of the GT80 that have the connector on the motherboard. The newer ones will have a spot where the haptic motor fits in the case laid out for it, but there is no point where it connects anymore.