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PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13D8&SUBSYS_11331462

 

Let's move this to a Conversation / PM, and I will ask that these posts get moved from the thread into that PM, I will set it up and invite you.

Sorry to everyone else for the clutter.

 

This is the one that appears 10.18.13.5435

 

The discussion regarding Intel Management Engine has been moved to a separate thread, to allow easier reading for those experiencing issues. You can find it here

 

The same. Nvidia 354.35

 

Now 364.51 is WHQL

 

anyone here that has gt80s titan 6QE tried the newest Nvidia driver 364.51?

 

Unstable as always

 

And I believe the latest drivers are causing a wealth of issues for numerous users including Desktop users. Nvidia needs to get their act together for stable drivers. we don't need a new driver every day

 

The 364.51 BETA has been working fine on my GT80 SLI-263

I haven't tried the WHQL yet, but it should be the same, since they didn't change the rev number.

 

Did you test it without AC connected?

 

That's not gonna be a config I use for mobile.

I switch to the Intel iGPU for battery, so no.

You'll need to test that functionality

 

Yes, but i want something stable too atleast in the basic things

 

So far so good, in the basic things for me, for 1 day.

You can always DDU uninstall what you have, install 364.51 fresh, and run your own test needs, and if it's not good, DDU it and reinstall the fallback version you are using.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...n-owners-lounge.769092/page-654#post-10216522

Sometimes ya gotta take the arrows in the back, to get the brew in the pub later

 

Thank God I ask first Mine is stable in nvidia driver 361.91

 

Hey guys, i can't seem to get any driver beyond 359.00 installed, i'm trying to download the newest 364.51 i believe i have updated Vbios for my 980m's.

but i doubt thats the issue. maybe? anyhow How can i get these drivers to install, i've reverted back to 359.00

Please advise.

Also i've tried atleast 2-3 versions previous to 364.51

 

Prem's vbios 1.x isn't compatible with recent Nvidia driver's, he has a 2.x series now that works, so if you have the Prema vbios PM him with your issues.

If you have the Svet vbios, check with him.

If you have updated the vbios from a newer MSI laptop then roll back to the latest vbios download for your model.

The same rollback to original stock vbios advice can work no matter what you updated to.

I am on version 84.04.48.00.29 which can be downloaded here:
https://us.msi.com/Notebook/support/GT80-Titan-SLI-GTX-980M-SLI-5.html#down-firmware

 

i am indeed using Prema's vbios, now if i can only remember how to revert vbios...

or find Prema's newest vbios haha

 

The Eurocom X7 Extreme uses Dual 970M and 980M in their support web the last drivers is 353.62 causality? i don't think so. I thought AMD was the worth

 

You can find the new Prema's vbios and explanation here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-or-no-gsync-fix-for-361-and-new-base.787553/

Contact prema and donate so you can use his tools to easily flash your GPUs. the newest tools don't need you to do anything except click an exe and be done with it.

You can also use the oficial MSI vbios, the latest ones over the support page should work.

As you can see, everyone including us users, can certify that nvidia'353.62 are the best drivers they released last year, and they have dropped the ball consistently hahaha

Everyone exaggerates of course, including me. And people bash AMD even more with the drivers. But as you can see, more is not better. AMD releases drivers in a less consistent matter, but they are almost similar in issues/fixes over the period of a year.

 

Hey guys.

Im considering upgrading my vBios to the prema mode.
I can see on his website that the bios should work with any MXM 980m card of similar VRAM. However I can only find the 980m 8gb version.'
I have the 4gb version in SLI. Does that mean that it will not be compatible? Is there a 4gb version somewhere?
Here is the link of the bios: https://biosmods.wordpress.com/gtx9/
Thanks!

 

980M 4GB SLI? Never seen that.

 

It is best to contact Prema directly to ask for guidance. Indeed it is not common to see the 4GB version in SLI but it does exists.

 

My bad. Just checked. Its in fact 8gig. Thanks!

Would you recommend flashing to Prema?

 

Do you think to overclock?

 

Yes I am. But would it be no difference in performance on stock clocks?

 

After the last microsoft update, my MSI software for ocing was corrupted and i Uninstalled it. I cannot raise the memory clock in MSI Afterburner either. I have boot problem where it is ready to log me in and just keeps paging for a full minute. Didn't do this before... Games won't accept the lcd oc and it starts flickering or turns half light grey, half darker grey

 

Can you remove said updates and test again - or use a system restore point?

 

reinstall nvidia drivers with DDU. Use only the last stable ones you know. I don't use MSI afterburner for OC, I use nvidia inspector, so I didn't notice anything with the latest MS update.

 

The nvidia 362 drivers broke my memory overclock in MSI afterburner, before I bothered to fix it they came out with the latest drivers 364.51 and those fixed the overclocking issue I had. Granted I am on 980 desktop GPUs so maybe that doesn't help you at all.

 

Also when I hook up to my 4K tv visas HDMI it shows native res as 1080p. When I try to bump it up, it turns purple and green....

 

This is a long shot but did "Stereoscopic 3D" get enabled the last time you installed drivers?

For some reason my GT80 every single driver enables it by default causing weird issues (like Far Cry Primal was orange). I just go disable it and everything works fine then, Odd it would enable it though, never had that problem on any laptop before.

 

Did not install 3D vision stuff...

 

Check out my video!

 

Hey guys, have any of you played the new Hitman? I am having a problem with the newest WHQL drivers where every time I load into the Paris map, the game freezes. When I alt out, it says that my drivers stopped working. The odd thing is that my screen doesn't go black for a few seconds nor does my brightness go all the way up. Hitman just freezes. Has anyone else had this problem?

 

Gonna get my GT80S-002 in mid June (*EXCITED*), planning on doing a few stuff as soon as I recieve the beast.
I see OCing CPU to 4.0GHz is the best option, aswell as the memory clock for GPU.
Recommended nvidia driver is 353.62
And I heard you can OC the monitor to 100Hz.

Please guide me on:
-How to stably OC the GPU and CPU, I just wouant it to be most effecient without actually damaging the hardware.\
-OC monitor refresh rate, this is very important for competitive CSGO and I cant afford a gaming monitor right now
- flash perma vbios (or any other thing you recommend)
-and basicaly anything you recommend to do as soon as I get the laptop?
(EDIT): -And anything else I need to know?

THX, I'm here from page 300 more or less, so I'm really lost already xD

SPECS:
i7-6820HK
SLI-980m
IC-Diamond paste
32GB Kingston DDR4 2400Mhz
Raid 0 - 2x 512GB Samsung 950 Pro NVMe
NO m.2 SSD.
1TB stock HDD

 

Yeah, it's really tough to grok everything without having hands on and trying things out - you have a minds eye view without real world feedback.

So until you have it, it may not work like you think it does. But, it's good to read it all before asking questions, at least you have a basic reference to frame your questions.

June is a long way away, and given MSI's proclivity to release a new GT80 at the drop of a CPU, chipset, GPU, you are likely looking at exactly the time of an announcement for a new series of GT80S's.

I wouldn't therefore get too attached to a particular model GT80S, by June it might be a GT80K (Kabylake) or GT80P (Pascal), or both GT80PK

Plus, who knows, another SLI Pascal contender could come around that time too, and then we all need to re-evaluate our interests and plans.

A couple of quick notes...

Prema won't be doing a firmware for the MSI stuff any longer, at least not as things sit now. He is focusing on Clevo/Sagar.

Svet is the guy for MSI firmware, here is his contact thread, up to 189 pages!:

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=148273.0

I wouldn't bother getting it re-pasted until you receive it and test it out.

Re-pasting without checking the original install can cause several things to be missed - not limited to physical cooling system problems - what if the heatpipe/heatplate/exhaust are faulty? If you re-paste first MSI can blame you for the fault / damage.

Run load tests to check the original paste job and it's cooling first, as a frame of reference with which to compare the re-paste - did it help or not? It's common sense, but many miss it.

The TDP for CPU is limited. Even if you can get 4.2ghz stable, 45w won't let it run far under load, you will get power throttling if not thermal throttling.

4.00ghz is reasonable and works fine. Long job runs are good to pre-set to 35x on all 4 cores, that way you get better throughput over time. Leaving it on 4.0ghz forces the CPU to make the clocking decision, and it usually selects 33x.

Those CPU comments work for all 45w-47w CPU's, the Haswell, the Broadwell, and the Skylake. They all have around the same limits and resulting performance.

Have fun, and keep reading

 

Won't pascal be out by them?

 

I have never seen it clock down

Mine stays at 4 ghz

 

You haven't done anything to consume enough power to push the TDP high enough to power throttle, or you haven't been paying attention to the hwinfo64 readings when doing so.

Set your CPU to 4.0ghz, High Performance, Start hwinfo64 to watch cores multi's and power draw, download p95v285.win64.zip and run it for all 8 cores with large or small FFT.

You probably want to turn on Full Fan before starting prime95

Watch your clock multi's drop, thermal throttling may briefly turn to Yes - but should clear "Current Thermal Throttle" after the CPU power throttles, and after a couple of minutes try turning off Full Fan.

Now you have seen power throttling and perhaps brief thermal throttling on your GT80S at 4.0ghz.

Next, try setting the 4 Cores to 32x or 33x, either way you will see where the CPU settles on a long prime95 run. You want to set the core/cache multi just at or above long term stable multi, to squeeze maximum throughput out of the CPU - the more instructions per second can run, the short the run will be.

Please post a screen shot including hwinfo CPU multi / power lines w/prime95 window.

Spoiler: Example(s)

First prime95 Large FFT run at 40x, dropped down to 30x

Trying to find a stable 4x multi, it looks like for the prime95 Large FFT run that 32x x4 is a good starting point. It hovers around 32x/31x, at least it's better than downclocking to 30x. I took this shot just as most of the cores dropped to 31x, then they all bounced back to 32x, averaging to 31.5x

Notice how the actual core temps are very low, it's power throttling that is causing the downclock.

prime95 is a good test example because it's easily available. It is a good test for many hardware issues, yet won't do any damage as the CPU / chipset will downclock while power throttling and thermal throttling.

 

what about stress test with intel xtu

 

Try prime95 first, then try XTU Stress test (not Benchmark), and contrast their power throttling abilities. Please post results.

 

Hi all,

First post on this forum, had my gt80 (4720, 2x980m) for a few months now but only recently I've gotten around to some reconfiguring to really make it 'mine', eventually got it to multiboot with Win8.1/Win10/Linux options. (needed the fallback to Win8.1 for checking out Oculus Rift pre-0.8 SDK stuff mostly, quite happy with Win10 performance for gaming and dev).

I have been playing some with Ether cryptocurrency mining, since from time to time those GPUs are sitting there idle, and since I completely missed the bitcoin mining boom a while ago that's something that I wanted to check off on my 'done that' list . (yes I realize Nvidia isn't a very cost effective choice for ethminer) Went the Linux way (Windows just didn't seem the way to go after some attempts). This isn't the most friendly laptop for installing even Ubuntu it seems (the open source nouveau driver freezes being the main culprit), but after some trial and error i have both 980m GPUs busy hashing. I settled on the 352 drivers provided with the official Nvidia CUDA 7 deb package recommended for Ubuntu 14.04, but newer drivers (361 from the graphics-drivers ppa) seemed to work great too, if you don't need the cuda module.

So here's my question: I'm bit uneasy leaving the ether mining on for prolonged periods of time - on auto fan setting the temps seem to be about 75-82C, leaving the fan on turbo helps bring that down by about 10 degrees. What's the word on the gt80 cooling robustness for this kind of operation, I realize this is still a laptop albeit with a loud fan.. Is it a no-no or are people happily running marathons with the machine's GPUs at 100% with no problem as you would with a desktop?

 

Oh come on.. I've been waiting since last early 2015/end 2014 to buy this laptop.
Only have this chance to get it to me in june, otherwise I'm gonna need to wait anothe year until I'm back in the states.

I don't mind the power and having a better setup, it's still a beast and as long as it can run Metro Redux, Witcher 3, Fallout 4 and CS:GO as well as possible (1080p) I don't mind it. that's enough for me.

 

It's up to you. I am the one that always says buy when you are ready, don't wait for the next big thing.

But, I gotta say in your specific case, at that time - June - it's gonna be pretty clear that another much higher performing GPU is right around the corner, maybe even available at that time.

If the Pascal GT80 is releasing close to June, before / after, it's gotta be worth checking out.

If you were getting it now, I'd say go for it, you gain 3 - 6 months of gaming, but in June, it might release right after you purchase.

Let us know how it works out

 

What about the 2-gen upgrade?
I've already waited for the GT80S edition/desktop 980, which we saw the pricing (vs. performance) of.
I have a health issue and I'm studying for now so for the next year more or less I will not be comming back to the states and this might be the only chance to get a laptop until then, so i'm going for it..

 

Sounds good, I am sure you will enjoy it

 

AAAHHHH!!!
Just my last question!!!
I forgot to ask what do you think of Windows 10???
I really like Windows 7 right now and never tried Windows 10? is an "upgrade" to win10 good? any performance boosts? ease of use? or should I just stick with good-ol' Windows 7? )


and IC-DIAMOND vs CLU?

 

Hey guys, I have a problem. I uninstalled my nvidia drivers through DDU and now my nvidia control panel isn't showing up. Does anyone have any ideas as to why? By the way, I just reinstalled them by downloading the newest drivers from the nvidia website.

 

Don't get him started on Windows 10!!!!

I think it depends on your situation. Since you said you really like Windows 7, I would recommend you stick with it unless you really need a feature of 10. Or if you like to have the latest and don't mind playing with things trying to see how they work.

I didn't like 7 much, 8 was a little better for me, and I like 10 best. I haven't found anything I couldn't get running on 10 except the MSI software silent option fan control software and not sure if they are updating it or not since it's been many months since the GT80S came out and no fix yet.

Unfortunately MS is making it harder to run a clean OS without them spying on you but many of the nannies can be defeated easily at this point.