***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

Earlier version 362.00(?) did that with me too, but it didn't freeze when unplugging, it exhibited Nvidia display driver crashes when *booting* on battery and the Nvidia GPU. Transitioning to battery from AC after booting worked fine.

When I am going to run on battery, I switch to the Intel iGPU first, so the Nvidia driver never loads, and I don't see any battery issues therefore with new Nvidia releases.

I haven't tested booting yet into Nvidia, I wouldn't be surprised if it still has the same issues, but IDC because I use the Intel iGPU for better battery life. You should try it.

 

While still on battery power I booted into Windows 8.1, Nvidia GPU's enabled running Nvidia 364.51, and no display driver crashes... it's running fine.

 

Do you have Geforce experience installed? Because it also has some issues with latest update.

 

Yes, I have it installed this time. I used DDU to uninstall the previous driver, and custom installed 364.51 including GFE, I didn't install the Miracast or 3D drivers.

Keeping those 980m's fed really draws power fast. I went from 98% to 53% during those reboots, starting games, and rebooting into Intel I now have 51%.

On Intel iGPU my estimated run time jumped up to 1 hour 31 minutes from 51 minutes when on Nvidia. I am on the Power Saver Windows power plan, I don't have MSI Gaming Center installed.

So I really do recommend switching to Intel iGPU rather than trying to run those 980m's on battery.

 

Just for the record, I am also using prema's v2 vbios for 980m without issues so far.

I honestly don't use the machine on battery but If I have time, I will test it further to see if I can propose a solution.

 

Hello,
to be quick, I was so frustrated with my GT80 (I7 5700HQ 980m SLI) GPU2 temps, reaching in some situation to 85-87c on GPU-2 (without turbo fans)
I started to search how to reduce it, ( Cooling Pad, air sucker, re-pasting) I did them all lol
1-starting with Cooling Pad (Zelman ZM-NC11) ===> Useless, no temps change, I did some modification to supply it with 12v more air but no change, that gave me only more time to reach the max temps
2-the used the Cooling Pad with an air sucker (Opolar) ===> much more better, 2-5c less on GPU2
3-repast with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut without Opolar ===> 1-2 c less (very very disappointed)

now I want to show you some pics, please fill free to advise me,

Opolar in action:


Cover removed:


GPU1 Stock Past:


GPU2 stock Past:



CPU stock Past:

 

Cleaned CPU GPUs:



I think i messed with the repast. I applied as Grizzly recommendation with the spatula :

Cpu repasted:


Gpu2 repasted: the pink pad is the Grizzly thermal Pad Minus 8 1mm



and finally a small Table to resume my tests:



I hope this was clear.
I have also the CLU past but i need some courage to test it, i will try after the Grizzly in dot method

but Im so disappointed all those thinks cost me a lot

Regards.

 

Hmmm It looks like a bit too much paste for my taste. What are your ambient temps? I ask because my highest temps for GPU2 are similar to yours, when I have around 100F ambient temp with limited air flow, and running a demanding game like witcher 3 maxed out. Other than those specific situations, it is rare for me to see over 70s of GPU temps.

I need to repaste with CLU, but I am waiting to see if there will be new GPUs coming in the next 6 months.

Also, where those temps using turbofan or just normal fan speeds?

 

For ambiante temps, i did it with AC on in my room, it was about 23-26c,
My test was wo turbo fun, ( all that is to prevent the fun from kicking, I hate that )
I think i will test with dot method.

 

Alright, definitely use the dot method, and make sure everything is properly screwed (don't destroy the screws! haha). When I am on an AC room, my temps indeed are lower than yours except for CPU which is the same or slightly higher haha. I am using ICD24 though.

 

It's so fraustrating seeing all these issues with the laptop..
Don't know where to start when I get mine..
I hope I won't have many issues with it :/

How exactly do you OC your GT80S screen to a higher refresh rate?

 

Go to the Nvidia control panel (right click on desktop and it's in that menu). From there I think it's under a menu choice called resolutions, then custom resolution. You can change the refresh rate and hit "test". Keep going up until it fails, then back it off a little for safety (and also maybe a nice even number like 90, 100 etc).

 

hey all, I'm about to pull the trigger on this Titan..but my big concern is that I see no mention of GSYNC. I find this hard to believe being its their flagship and its the updated skylake version. Can anyone confirm this? Also, is this thing a good buy? Is no gysnc the deal breaker? I would figure for SLI stutter that gsync would be a perfect match

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152984

 

This model doesn't have G-Sync.

 

I’m not sure about the 970m and 980m models but the 980 one can output to an external G-sync display (like for a 4k 60 hz display). The internal display is only 1080p@60 and can run most games well above 60 fps so gsync would not do anything in that case.

I’ve found gsync really isn’t noticeable (to me) except in the 30-60 range. So if you’re running 90 fps on a 144hz display it would not really be noticeable. Personally, I don’t think gsync would be very useful on such a high end machine.

 

All laptops have issues, the importat thing is having a community working together to fix them. We have managed to overcome a lot of issues from different models and hardware, plus we have the support of great resellers here, as well as being heard by MSI representatives.

It will all boil down to your usage. When you require great mobility using nvidia GPUs on battery, you might encounter some of those newer issues with freezing and crashing. If you use hibernation/sleep a lot, you might find issues with crashing due to nvidia drivers.

But if you mostly use it connected to AC adapter, don't use hibernation/sleep, you won't be encountering most, if any, nvidia issues. Unless they decide to botch new drivers hahaha

Current recommendations are: Disable hibernation/sleep and use the iGPU when on battery. It's a hassle, while we try to find possible solutions, or nvidia works on them.

There is no Gsync internal, so no support with the internal display. You can, however, use gsync on an external monitor. As far as I know gsycn doesn't work with multiple monitors so it will only work on a single monitor. Maybe that will change with drivers.

I don't think it's a deal breaker, honestly. I am extremely happy with my machine so far, and it does seem like a good deal you got there, but I haven't researched enough The good thing is being able to upgrade GPUs to Pascal when they do come out.

 

@HaloGod2012 the 18" panels aren't Nvidia approved for G-sync.

It isn't that they can't do it, they OC nicely all the way to 100hz and above for some, but it takes a process to approve them that hasn't been done.

I haven't noticed a need for G-sync on any games on the GT80, and run mine at 100hz with a 101FPS Limit setting in Rivatuner. Every game runs smoothly.

G-sync is also just another thing for Nvidia to mess up in new drivers. G-sync has been reported to be missing in some new drivers, and best left disabled in others. It's not been consistently available even for those machines that ship with it. Some even think it is on, and then discover it isn't.

The GT80 is powerful enough to run well without it.

 

Thanks everyone , I purchased the model I listed . I'm hoping with some over clocking that these 970m's will scream. As far as pascal , we don't even know if they will keep the same mxm form factor , unless Msi manufactures the GPUs to work for our units ?

 

I think the GT80 came with some sort of guaranteed upgrade two revisions of GPU. If they stand by that you should be able to upgrade the next two gens.

 

Considering that rumors indicate that pascal, for most of their parts except maybe the highest end, will use GDDR5 tech, I am sure we will see MXM GPUs.

Since GT80 and GT72 came with a promise of two generation supports, I don't know if that means Maxwell being one, and Pascal being the second, or pascal being the first upgrade and volta the second?

 

So the Titan arrived , and sadly it's DOA. Horizontal lines and artifacts all over the screen when it boots. I tried cleaning the drivers out and reinstalling , disabling sli, etc. nothing worked . Now it won't even boot to Windows. I RMAd for a refund and ordered another so I didn't have to wait for neweggs long rma process . Hopefully that was just bad luck ! I attached a picture also

 

Very very bad,
Did you try external screen?

 

Yes , and it had the same result , looks like the master 970m is bad . Most likely bad vram. Oh well my new one arrives tomorrow

 

Darn!! There have been a couple such issues reported here before, you did the right thing RMA'ing it and getting another on the way, it's not something you could have easily fixed on your own.

Good luck on Roll #2

 

Check the sli bridge?

 

I am really having a hard time connecting to stuff over HDMI. When I go over 1080p resolutionto my 4K tv it turns green and purple. Even at 1080 it looks blurry like. Or as if there isn't a full color spectrum available

I was pushing to a 1080p tV at a hotel I was at playing a blu Ray for my brother and sister and the frames were laggy snd it said the frame rate not match. I went and lowered the frame rate of the 1080 tv but it did not do anything.

 

I would normally , but the fact that it worked and then went out as soon as I started a game (didn't move or bump the laptop) tells me it's one of the GPUs . Plus I would hate having to open up this thing already and reseat things, it's almost 3 grand , work out of the box !

 

Was the game Witcher 3, by chance? I had a similar event occur after updating my NVIDIA Driver. The screen went to lines just like in your video; So, I rolled it back and it went away. That, was 2 or 3 months ago. You did not mention that it happened when you started a game, before. So, I thought it was something different. It only happened for me with Witcher 3 on the new driver.

 

No it was a benchmark. Anyway just opened up my new unit and ran firestrike, see results below!

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/11377670?

Also load temps for GPU 2 is 85C, and GPU 1 is 73C. Is it normal to have about a 12C difference between them? This is at full load during benching.

 

Well, just like the other Donkies, I just bought an SLI-002 but haven't received it yet. I just wanted everyone to know when to intercept my package.

Hello everyone! I'm G13
First Post Ever: FAIL/SUCCESS?

 

I repasted gpu2, better but still warns warmer than 1, seems like from other posts that this is normal

 

The difference is normal, because the way the cooling is mirrored while the GPUs are not. There is a typical 12 C difference under load, can be lower, or 2C higher sometimes.. That being said, it is a bit high to see 85 on the GPU. I see you repasted, how are temps now?

To give you an idea, right now my ambient temps are on the 80-90s F, and my max GPU2 temp with an overclock of 100/100 after 1.5 hours of the division ultra at unlocked fps.... was 80C. To put into perspective, my GPU1 under the same conditions only got to 67C.

GPUs at the end do get decent cooling, the CPU is the one that requires more attention.

Welcome aboard I hope the machine lives up to your expectations.

As new users, I suggest you disable sleep/hibernation from the get go, just to avoid initial nvidia headaches.

 

the max temp on GPU 2 is about 80C now, still seems very high for a machine this big. Future GPUs will only get cooler so I don't see this is a issue. The throttle temp for these cards is 85C correct? That's what I want to avoid.

 

That's normal, because many GS models go up to 90C.
GT has the best cooling possible among gaming machines.

 

I don't have the laptop yet, but how do you use then Intel GPU (not the nvidia)?
Is it something difficult?
I want to put the laptop in my room for gaming, but my parents are divorced and I'm going to move it quite alot every day.
Should I shut down every time I want to move the laptop? (e.g. - Moving it downstairs/just sitting somewhere different then my room surfing/connecting to a TV and watching a movie.. etc..)

And is it difficult to OC the monitor?
I'm going to play alot of CS:GO with it and high refresh rate is very helpful in that game.

 

Is it that easy?
Right now, on my Alienware 15 (765m) there is no such option, just the 60Hz and different resolutions.

 

There is a button on the laptop that says GPU next to the power button. When you press it, a prompt appears asking you if you want to switch GPUs and it will reboot if you do. After rebooting, you will be using the intel GPU instead of nvidia GPU.

Short moving like relocating from upstairs to downstairs, you don't need to power off nor sleep your laptop. Just unplug, go downstairs and replug. I suggest you put the power option so that closing the lid does nothing, not power off nor sleep.

Only shutdown fully when you are, lets say, leaving the house or long periods of time. If you are going to use the laptop for browsing and moving a lot, might as well use intel GPU the whole time. Your battery lasts longer and you won't crash.

No, it is not difficult to overclock the monitor. You simply create a custom resolution on the nvidia control panel and select the refresh rate. Most users have succesfully reached 100hz or even a bit more, but I recommend trying first smaller speeds, like 75hz.

Note that you cannot overclock the monitor under the intel GPU, which is the reason optimus sytems can't do it like us, because we don't have optimus.

 

Cs:GO and other dx9 games doesn't support custom refresh rate in fullscreen mode(if you OC with nvidia control panel, dont know about other methods), borderless/windowed on windows 8/10 = huge input delay.

 

hey guys. one other thing I noticed, where are the gold cherry MX key caps that came with the older GT80 titans?

 

I'm sure the problems associated with the GT80s series will be fixed.... Eventually.

But I really appreciate warning me about hibernation. I did read this but 669 pages is a lot to go through. And also, I think switching to the on board video card isn't that bad of an idea when you don't need all that processing power.

On an interesting note I think I will be buying 64 GB of that 2800 MHz DDR4 PC4 22400 260-pin G.Skill.
Never used 16GB modules before and this is my first intel. I'm pretty excited. Any opinions on that memory? Plz reply.

 

Hey GT80 users,

I bought SLI-258 - customized from ebay around 7 months ago.

i have some questions regarding it.

1) since I have upgraded to windows 10 my touchpad is not working as a num pad. It only works as a touchpad

2) Since last month Everytime I start my laptop screen goes black and i have to hold power button to let it off and start again.

3) Since the beginning it had habit of screen freeze and then i had to hold the power button to off it it and start again.

4) Can I connect 144hz monitor with the laptop. Please suggest me a good monitor and cable.

5) A couple of months earlier it stucked on MSI logo and then I had to reinstall the os again. Since than I dont have nahmic, killer network and all MSi applications, Please guide me how I can get them back.

Thanks and Regards,
N

 

I cannot update the vbios on mine

 

New WHQL is out anybody?

 

Added image of issue... having driver crashes constantly and I also cannot find where to get latest skylake drivers... been running on the originals for soo long

 

Did you disable in device manager the cards first?

 

I tried that too. With skylake it says I don't have to disable...
http://www.msi.com/files/pdf/VBIOS_flash_sop_for_Skylake.pdf

 

why cant I update intel drivers either? it says the computer does not meet minimum requirements for the software...

 

364.72 is running ok for me so far, but MSI Afterburner wouldn't allow me to apply OC profile and Rivatuner wouldn't show most of the data I usually display through OSD, until I quit MS Afterburner and restarted Run As Administrator, then everything worked fine.

 

Sleep & Hibernation?

 

I don't use them myself, and I recommend turning off Hibernation and not using Sleep to avoid the disappointment of trying to get them to work on Windows.

If you constantly update Windows, and continually upgrade the Nvidia driver, even if you get Hibernation / Sleep to work once, it will break soon enough - it's a waste of time.

Run As Administrator cmd window:

powercfg -h off

That will also disable Fast Startup, and Shutdown will be real now. All good things.