***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

I thought the new GT80S's didn't support Intel iGPU? It doesn't exist, so it doesn't show up as a device - so the software won't install, and you can't switch to it.

 

Ok

 

I don't use them myself, and I recommend turning off Hibernation and not using Sleep to avoid the disappointment of trying to get them to work on Windows.

If you constantly update Windows, and continually upgrade the Nvidia driver, even if you get Hibernation / Sleep to work once, it will break soon enough - it's a waste of time.

Run As Administrator cmd window:

powercfg -h off

That will also disable Fast Startup, and Shutdown will be real now. All good things.

 

Why Sleep and Hibernation working good with 354.35 or 353.62 the problem is nvidia dont blame to Microsoft

 

Speaking of drivers, I've been told by the MSi service to stick to the drivers available on their website, do you know if this is a real advice, or not? I've installed previously the last NVidia drivers (the one available 3 weeks ago, don't remember the version number tho), and it turned to be very unstable (got the "Driver crashed" heaps of times)

Or maybe there is a proper way to install them?

Cheers!

(oh and hello everyone )

 

Ironjer, I didn't assign blame, I suggested to you to not to waste time trying to get hibernation/sleep to work.

This is from many years of exasperation at having it work, then not having it work. Sometime it's a Microsoft Update that breaks it, and sometimes it's an Nvidia driver update that breaks it.

MS / Nvidia / ATI have all been contributors to the problem. It's hard enough getting a combination to work, without worrying about blame

I am only suggesting you give up on Hibernation and Sleep because they are the #1 problems with new OS releases and new GPU driver releases.

If you can live without Hibernation and Sleep, you can enjoy the benefits of new game support and run the latest driver from Nvidia and ATI.

That's really the goal for me, run the latest GPU driver.

Hibernation and Sleep aren't a priority once you learn to live without them.

If you want to live with old GPU drivers to get Hibernation and Sleep to work, that's your choice.

My choice is to learn how to live without Hibernation and Sleep, so I can run the latest GPU drivers. I did this years ago, and it's still working great for me.

Have fun

 

For support from MSI, you want to be running the latest that they make available for your model on their support page for your laptop.

For support for newest games and GPU features, run the latest driver from Nvidia.

I use DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) to uninstall the previous driver in Safe Mode, then after reboot I install the latest driver downloaded directly from Nvidia.

I don't use GFE for driver updates, only for game profile update.

I also don't install all the Nvidia packages, as I don't use 3D or Miracast I don't install those. Often I will not use GFE either, so I leave out that install as well.

Experiment with it a bit on your own to find out what works best for you.

 

Thanks for your response Scott!!

I've just downloaded DDU to try removing properly these drivers. What are please GFE and nVidia packages?

Oh BTW, how do you get such good score in 3DMark11? Did you tweak or OCed your graphic cards? and do you yourself run the latest nVidia drivers?

 

The Nvidia driver installer will install a number of individual packages depending on your hardware.

For me it will offer to install the Video driver, 3D Vision, HD Audio, Miracast, Geforce Experience (GFE), and Physx driver.

Today for the 364.72 driver I only installed the Video driver, HD Audio, GFE, and Physx:


You will see the options to install by selecting Custom Install instead of Express install when running the Nvidia installer.

Then you can uncheck the boxes of the ones you don't want installed.

Also, check "Clean Install" box at bottom of that list of packages available to install.

And, don't forget to reconfigure your Nvidia Control Panel customizations, like custom resolution and 3D global/application settings.

 

Sweet as, thanks for the help Scott!!

 

Windows 10 Hibernation Off Sleep Off in Battery Only you will get freeze freeze freeze with the last one. Good job again NVIDIA.

 

what about software that only supports igpu? like rendering stuff?

 

clean install never works for me... I ALWAYS run ddu.

 

Yeah, that has been that way for the last few releases. Be sure to let Nvidia know again via Feedback on their site for that driver, in the forum and via bug reporting form.

If your GT80 will let you switch to Intel iGPU before going onto battery, that's optimal anyway.

 

Check your Device Manager, if you don't have an Intel GPU showing in Display Adapters, then that software isn't going to see it either.

Mine shows 2 980m's when switched to Discrete GPU's, the Intel GPU doesn't show up until I switch to iGPU and reboot:

Spoiler

Most CPU only rendering software don't need to see the iGPU, as it uses the CPU and not the iGPU for rendering.

 

only 2 980m

 

And, you can't switch using the "GPU switch" on the GT80S, so the iGPU is not accessible.

The GT80S 980 SLI owners report the same thing, no switching to iGPU available.

 

May be reinstall the SCM software?

 

Intel iGPU access is not available on the GT80S Skylake models, so reinstalling SCM won't help. The iGPU / dGPU switch has been reassigned in the GT80S. Check your model manual pdf for details.

The GT80 Haswell / Broadwell models have the iGPU switch option.

 

yeah but i havent had any really bad sleep/hibernation issues yet

 

And, that's the problem, the Sleep / Hibernation issues were always random for me as well.

I wouldn't have problems for many OS updates / Nvidia drivers, and then out of the blue it would start failing for no apparent reason - no changes or installs recently. Very frustrating

It's better to organize your workflow such that you aren't dependent on Sleep / Hibernation at all.

It can take a while to figure this out - better to stop using something that isn't consistently reliable, but for some they just can let it go, and frustrate themselves to exasperation - maybe they switch to OSX or Linux

For gaming Windows 7/8.1 is still best.

For work stuff I use Linux / OSX mostly when I can as it reflects the servers / services I am supporting.

I don't use sleep or hibernation in OSX or Linux

I do use a lot of VM's, which I can save in current state, which is something I use all the time.

 

GT80S Skylake doesn't use IGD anymore, it uses PEG exclusively.

 

Officially nvidia is not supporting the mobile gpus for vr. This is shown in the latest update... should i upgrade

 

Do you have a desktop system? Perhaps that's your best alternative to get into VR scene other than swapping out your gaming NB unless you are prepared to lose few hundred of dollars to sell the existing one and then pay more to get a brand new laptop.

Seems like just GTX 980 and GTX 980 SLI with VR support on the official page, but not sure about the mobile versions however 980M has the capacity to handle VR at reasonable level.
https://gaming.msi.com/promotion/vr-ready

 

No desktop just this laptop... By any chance do you know where I might be able to "swap it"?

 

You meant swap it free of charge? Or upgrade it with a lot of fees?

 

upgrade to a new unit...or swap gpu's

 

It's strange, steamVR test says that 980m sli laptops are Vive ready. At first i had the Vr Capable Result (medium: 5.5) with default drivers, now i updated to 362.00 version and i had Vr Ready (Very High 8.5 that is better than some desktop equipped with single 980 gpu i've seen posted on many forums with an 8.1 result). Someone updated GPUs or DDR3 Ram to DDR4 ?

 

Anyone else besides me having troubles with NVIDIA drivers causing Kernel has recovered errors on GT80 2QE?
I'm more or less stuck on 353.62. The 356 series gave me errors in games and 362.00 upwards gives Kernel black screens with 364 upwards giving full system lockups.
I did use DDU as advised.

On an unrelated note, I was thinking of cleaning my keyboard keys, but have no idea how to actually detach them in the first place? Help appreciated

 

All us are in the same boat. Read the thread

 

I'm a bit confused from reading the thread.
My GT80 is always plugged into AC, not running on battery at all (unless it does automatically at times?)
I also do not use hibernation or sleep as far as I am aware

And its also strange that after upgrading to higher drivers, it works fine initially until I shut down the system for the night and boot it up the next day (still on AC) and then get issues just toying around with windows explorer

 

Did you disabled fast boot in bios?

 

Hibernation / Fast Startup are running unless you turn them off. Whether you use them or not, they have automatic functions running. At shutdown it's not a real shutdown, it's a soft one, for Fast Startup.

In a Windows cmd shell Run As Administrator:

powercfg /h off

That will turn off Hibernation and disable Fast Startup, and your Shutdowns will be normal full power off shutdowns - which means your next start will be a cold boot from scratch.

That should help with the Nvidia issues, and save you space on your C drive by deleting the hidden hyberfil.sys file - the size of RAM installed.

You should then be able to run the latest Nvidia driver download from Nvidia, keep doing the DDU and Custom / Clean install from the Nvidia installer downloaded directly from Nvidia.

You may also need to do a chkdsk, right click on your C drive and select Properties, Tools, Error checking, and if it asks to schedule a check at next boot - agree and then reboot to do the check immediately.

You can also check your system integrity, in a Windows cmd shell Run As Administrator:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/929833

If you can't repair something, create a bootable USB flash drive with the Windows installer from Microsoft, boot on it and run Repair System.

Hopefully it's just the Hibernation mucking things up.

 

Great, thank you very much for the overall summary, I'll give that a try
And I'll also check BIOS if I missed something in terms of fast boot if that's relevant.

So just to check, after disabling hibernation, checking file integrity and then upgrading to the most recent nvidia driver, it should work fine with no issues whilst on AC? But not work on battery if I read some posts correctly?

 

The BIOS fastboot isn't related to the Windows Fast Startup. The BIOS fastboot just ignores some POST tests and does quick initialization POST for quicker exit to OS.

You are correct, except it might be ok on Battery if you boot on AC first and then unplug AC and run on battery... for me it only causes problems when booting cold while on battery when dGPU is selected. I use iGPU on battery anyway, so it's not a bother for me.

I haven't tried booting cold on battery 364.72 yet, so it might work, cross fingers

 

Driver has been tuned, and will be tuned further.
Nvidia has always been good at this.

 

my HTC Vive arrives on April 5th can't wait to use it with my Haswell GT80 (980m SLI). Will let you guys know how it runs. I was set to get my Rift by today as well, but I cancelled it early last week. All in for the Vive.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/46jn3f/my_first_vive_pre_testing_with_970m_asus_g751j/

This guy said that Htc VIVE also works well with a 970m.

 

I need to clean mine too!

no horrible issues with the second to latest drivers here.

 

I'm thinking of upgrading to pascal when it comes out. Whether or not I get a new model...well that just depends....

 

Awesome, thank you for sharing.

This part is also worth noting.

 

Any idea how to actually detach the keys from the keyboard safely? I tried gently pulling but didn't get anywhere with that

 

A keypuller sure helps!
http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Steel-Wire-Puller/dp/B00TAUJDJK

And silver backlightable WASD keys too
http://www.amazon.com/AGPtek®-Electroplating-Transparent-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B00SB6YD2Q

 

http://www.techradar.com/news/mobil...hese-notebooks-are-ready-for-the-rift-1317951

Here msi gt80 2QE Titan 980m sli (I7-4720HQ) is listed as one of the five best notebook to play Oculus Rift and Htc Vive.

 

Ahh so can't do it manually... here I was thinking that after cleaning I could pop on those golden keys too
Ah well, shopping time.

Thanks!

 

In the metal box with the Gold or Red metal MSI keycaps, there is a "finger puller", a Ring with 2 prongs on it, that's the supplied key puller, go for it

Spoiler

 

Pull my finger...

 

Hey, I am about to update to the new nvidia drivers (364.72) and I just want to know if they work okay. The GT80 has had a fair amount of issues with drivers in the past so I just want to check in with you guys and make sure these drivers work with the GT80. Thanks.

 

With no sleep no hibernation no fast boot and WITH AC connected no problems

 

I do the same exact thing with my laptop, in that case I should be fine.