***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

I am thinking of buying the GT80 spec with the dual GTX 980M GPUs in it. Will it be possible to upgrade the GPUs to a pair of GTX 980 later on? Or, is the upgrade possible only within the M class of GPUs?

 

MSI has only discussed MXM GPU upgrades for "next generation" GPU's, which we all assume is the Pascal series, and the Volta series.

So far MSI has said there will be no MXM GPU upgrades within the same generation.

So you can't start with a 2 x 965m and then later upgrade to a 2 x 980m. And, if you got a single GPU GT80, you can't upgrade to SLI.

Things might change, but the only upgrade path mentioned by MSI so far would let you upgrade from 980m to "1080m".

 

So Pascal MXM GPUs can be capable with actual MXM systems ? I dont' know if there are different models of MXM mudules.

 

Noone outside MSI knows for sure, we are all waiting to find out about Pascal first from Nvidia, and then hopefully soon after we will find out what options MSI will offer for an upgrade.

Apparently MSI thinks they can offer an MXM upgrade for 2 generations.

Perhaps MSI worked this out with Nvidia before hand; I would assume so since making that kind of promise and not being able to keep it would be costly to MSI.

 

Well MSI promised 2 generation support, and from all the news so far, Pascal will still be based around GDDR5 so an MXM interface is most likely a given. Maybe next year with the advent or HBM2 we might not be as lucky, but Pascal should work.

Also, the cost of desktop 980 as to upgrade, might be a little to high for the performance achieved. So it is best to wait for Pascal and then upgrade

 

Agreed. Right out of the gate/on a new purchase it's a little more cost effective, but an upgrade well after the matter can be rather costly.

 

This was mentioned a while back (around page 400 or something) but I'm wondering about the refresh rate of this laptop. It comes factory at 60 Hz, but I'm skeptical. While I don't own the MSI GT80, I do own a similar laptop by CyberPower. It's the same chassis and I'm going to assume the same display as well. I was messing around in the nVidia settings, and I managed to crank up the refresh rate to 120 Hz. I don't know if it's actually achieving 120 Hz, but there is a noticeable difference between the two settings. I tried to crank it up to 240 Hz for ****s and giggles but that's when I started to damage the screen. Luckily, the damage was temporary, but I'm worried that 120 Hz may also damage the screen, but I'm not sure. Basically, at 240 Hz the screen starting flickering and the edges started to fade to black. I had to force my laptop to shut off so no more damage could incur. When I turned it back on, the screen slowly faded back to normal. However, the left half portion of the screen was slightly lighter than the right portion, but that also slowly faded back to normal.

I'm not looking to damage my screen, but 120 Hz seems to work just fine for now. It's also hard to go back to 60 Hz after you experience 120 Hz. I'm afraid to try for higher after I went all the way to 240. Has anybody else overclocked their display on this?

Edit: Suspiciously enough, at 129 Hz the screen starts to have sync issues. It's almost as if the screen is designed to go up to 120 Hz. I wonder why the factory default is only 60 then.

 

I updated to the latest nvidia drivers, SteamVR result is a bit changed (from 8.5 to 8.8) :
Before (362.00)

After (364.72)

GeForce Experience always says that:

 

I can't go over 100 he without losing pixels

 

That's odd. Maybe Cyberpower did amp up the display. I think my laptop is closer to the GT80S Titan, however, but they should use the same type of display. I guess not.

 

Mine IS a gt80S

 

These new drivers (364.72) are not good for me. This morning, just turned on the pc, i had a black screen for a moment and than an error message concerning the driver who had stopped working and was recovered.

 

There is a thread talking about 364.72, and you can help by giving your feedback there, and maybe get some ideas to get it working for you.

nVIDIA GeForce Drivers v364.72 Findings & Fixes
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-geforce-drivers-v364-72-findings-fixes.789930/

 

Hey Guys anybody have an .ISO with the original Windows 8.1 MSI? i deleted all my partitions without backup

 

I'm looking to get a cooler for my new GT80S, is the cm storm SF19 V2 the best for this size? I cant imagine the temps on these is good for the long run. (up to 80's on the GPU peak temp of 96C CPU when benching). Normal gaming doesn't get the temps this high but they are higher than what I'm used to.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master...qid=1459694056&sr=8-1&keywords=cm+storm+sf+19

 

The only problem I have with this laptop is that I can't use ALT codes. Has anybody found a workaround? (ie ALT + 0151 = —)

 

You don't need a cooling pad, not effective, buy an air sucker, much more better, Opolar, i tested one, http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00X...rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2404317562&pf_rd_i=mobile and got -5c with just one
With a cooling pas i got nothing.

 

I would think a pad would work best, when I lift the back end of my laptop an inch I see temps drop. So with an elevated pad and two 140mm fans blowing air, it should be 10C+ difference I would assume. I already ordered the SF19 V2, we will see how it works

 

Hey gents, so I did the steamVR test and compared it to the results on the previous page, mine doesn't mention two GPU's. But when I check they Nvidia control panel it is definitely showing the two 980m GPU's.

Any suggestions?

 

You need to add the command line parameter -multigpu through Steam "Set Launch Options":

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GT80 SLI 980m + CPU/GPU OC

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Please post results here too:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/steamvr-performance-test.788566/

Update: new Nvidia 364.72 VR optimizations + boost clock stability improvements helped bump up my SteamVR Score from 9.5 to 9.8 !

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Thanks for the information hmscott. Question then, should I be entering this string in the properties of all my steam games? I play Assetto Corsa and Arma3.

My results were significantly improved, but I didn't get the same Average Fidelity score as you posted above. 8.4 vs the 9.5 as shown.

Thanks for not flaming an old man with minimal idea about these things

 

If you are running stock, then 8.4 is a good score, well into the Green zone

You can use the Windows system tool, "snipping tool", to grab a shot of the results, with the details area opened up.

The -multigpu command line flag/switch is only for SteamVR Performance tool.

SLI support is through SLI Profiles, gained through Nvidia Driver Updates and Geforce Experience (GFE).

For games without individual SLI profiles, there are people that post hacks that use other profile settings.

I don't have either of those games, but google around and you should find more supporting info to enable SLI if not through the driver. Here is an example of hacking it, before Nvidia driver 332.21 shipped Assetto Corsa SLI profile
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/540947/assetto-corsa-sli-profile/

Assetto Corsa – New nVidia V332.21 driver with optimised SLI profiles.
http://www.bsimracing.com/assetto-corsa-new-nvidia-driver-with-optimised-sli-profiles/


Arma3 is CPU bound, so SLI isn't realized with current available CPU's
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/807708/arma-3-sli-support-/
https://www.reddit.com/r/arma/comments/2slg14/performance_with_sli/

The newest Nvidia driver 364.72 is working aok for me on my GT80 SLI-263 since release, but if I were you I wouldn't chance it, as there are lots of reports from people - mostly with GTX6xxx GPU's - burning out their GPU's... wild.

I have played a number of games, batch jobs, and normal day to day use, and my GPU's are performing normally, dropping clock as load goes away and increasing clock within normal limits during load. My temps are fine too.

362.00 seems to be the one everyone is backing up to, but so far, all the recent drivers have been aok for the GT80 SLI-263.

I use DDU in Safe Mode to remove the previous Nvidia drivers, and boot into normal mode to install the latest driver using Custom=>Clean install, and I don't install 3D or Miracast drivers, just the Video Driver, HD Audio, Geforce Experience (GFE), and Physx, then reboot before using it.

There is one kink in the new 364.72, you need to run MSI Afterburner the first time As Administrator, same for monitoring programs, at least for me the Rivatuner OSD data in games halved (less detail shown), and I couldn't OC. After Ran As Administrator the first time to set OC, I haven't had to do that again, through many days of use and reboots in between, it was weird.

The other thing I haven't tried: booting on battery into Nvidia GPU's - which caused problems in the last few drivers. If you boot on AC you can switch to Battery with Nvidia GPU's enabled, otherwise I switch to Intel iGPU mode for battery use.

Lots of fun stuff

 

Top info! I have much to read up about thanks.

I will get on to that over the next two nights and come back with my results.

Thanks for your time.

 

I have a quick question. This is gonna sound kinda odd, but can someone with the latest BIOS (E1812IMS.119) check what version of the Intel management engine firmware they have? I have already checked with one person, and we have different versions of the Management Engine firmware even though we are on the same BIOS. I just want to see if I have the latest version of the ME firmware.

 

Regular BIOS flash will not update the ME even though the BIOS ROM file contains the newest version.

 

ME FW Version 9.1.20.1035 here

 

That's what I thought. I am having a problem with my management engine and have been contacting MSI support on it. The person I am talking to there wants me to flash to the newest BIOS even though I have been on it for awhile now. I am pretty sure that flashing the same BIOS won't do anything and I just want to see if everyone on the newest BIOS has the same management engine firmware or not. I know Scott (the person who I mentioned earlier had a different management engine firmware version but the same BIOS) had a different version from me, but maybe that's a coincidence or something.

 

what version do you have?

 

I have version 9.1.30.1008 and I hmscott had version 9.1.26.1006. Ironjer, are you on the same BIOS as me?

 

yeah, look my singnature.

omg this is odd.

I can't remember what version i had before to upgrade just remember was old.

 

wait my cpu is 4th generation. do you have the 5th?

 

Maybe updating the Management Engine Firmware isn't tied to updating the BIOS. Maybe it's tied to the Intel Management Engine driver under drivers in MSI support for the GT80. I don't know, I'm just guessing. Could you tell me what version your Intel Management Engine Components and Intel Management Engine Interface are? You find the version for components by going to "Programs and Features" and looking for the IMEC (Intel Management Engine Components.) It should show you the version when you click on it. Now, to check the IMEI (Intel Management Engine Interface,) go to your device manager and click on the arrow next to the system devices tab. Next, scroll down until you see "Intel(R) Management Engine Interface". Next, right click on it and go to properties. From there go to the driver tab and it should tell you the driver version. My IMEC version is 11.0.0.67 and my IMEI version is 11.0.0.1181.

 

Yes, I have the 5th. I don't know if that has anything to do with Intel Management Engine, but I could very well be wrong. Sorry I didn't see you had a 4th gen i7 until after I posted the wall of text above.

 

You need ask to somebody with the same generation.

The software may be different of firmware in fact you can uninstall and install any version but the firmware is other thing.

 

In that case, can anyone with the same BIOS version as me (E1812IMS.119) and an i7 5950HQ tell me their Intel Management Engine Firmware version?

 

Is it the intel Management Engine interface? Mine says 11.0.0.1146
Mine is the 4720HQ version though.

 

We are talking about firmware you can see it in the system information in bios

 

So I have been talking to MSI support, and I asked what version of the Management Engine Firmware the BIOS has. He said it had version 11, which is odd since nobody I checked with has that version of the ME Firmware. If someone has the chance, could they try updating to the newest BIOS version even if they already have it? I have been talking to hmscott, and he said that MSI could've added a newer version of the ME Firmware to the BIOS version without changing the version number of the BIOS. I will likely update to it soon, but I just want to make sure that it does actually update the Management Engine firmware. If anyone has the chance to update to the newest BIOS (even if they already have it) from the support page for the GT80, that would be very much appreciated.

 

All of E1814IMS.108, 10C, 10E, and 110 have ME 11.0.0.1180 inside.

 

And, here is one of the points of confusion.

As you just did, the MSI guy may also be quoting current 6th Generation GT80S BIOS contents, not the 5th Generation GT80 SLI-263 we both have.

Our E1812IMS.119 BIOS which is for the GT80 SLI-263, which we both have, has the 9.x.x.x series.

My IMEI is working, I am not going to futz around with this.

I recommend to everyone to get more specific info from MSI. Specify which generation BIOS, what ME it contains, and exactly the link they are using.

There are a number of download repositories inside MSI worldwide, and they often differ as to freshness.

 

1814 isn't the same as 1812.
E1812IMS.119 has ME v9.1.30.1008.

So driver-wise, each model needs to use their own ME driver.

 

I downloaded and installed the E1812IMS.119 when it first came out, and my ME version is 9.1.26.1006, which is working fine for me.

That's why I said I have seen mfgr's issue the same BIOS version with new associated firmware payloads, like ME / RAID firmware versions.

Which is why @SizeDrip has a newer ME version yet the same BIOS version I have.

So it's entirely possible that an even newer E1812IMS.119 has the ME series 11.x.x.x version, but I suggested to him that due to all the variables, that he get the exact version of each element and the exact download link that they are using for reference.

He already had an RMA due to IMEI issues with the BIOS, and I am trying to help him avoid another RMA.

 

Scott, 1812 does not have ME v11 so it's not possible, but as for the drivers, I see MSI placed v10 for Win8.x and v11 for Win10 so this is a bit strange.

So here we have
ME segment in the BIOS which is v9.1.xx.xxxx.
ME Driver which we have both v10.x & v11.x.

@SizeDrip, can you try the v10.x instead?
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That's another point of confusion. Usually you try to match up the ME / RAID Windows versions to match the series in the BIOS, there are exceptions, but it's not typical.

I would suggest he try the 9.x.x.x series, either from Intel, or another support download from MSI.

But....

Since @SizeDrip has already had an MSI RMA related to ME versions, I suggested he stop taking advice from the forum, and follow MSI's instructions as an extension of his RMA ticket.

Let MSI get it working.

If @SizeDrip 's Device Manager entry from IMEI isn't showing working then it's a problem, otherwise if it says it's working - I wouldn't worry about it.

 

I actually have doubts about RMA service for this issue, and wonder what they would do to resolve this.

Possibly the following.
- Change MB, and update BIOS.
- Reload OS to factory defaults.

Update:
I checked with MSI and they advised that the use of ME driver is fine for its designated OS.
So it is v11 for Win10 and v10 for Win8.x.

 

Sorry to be the simpleton here, going through the last few pages it is clear you guys are on another level to me as far as my knowledge of squeezing the most out of my GT80s.

Is there anything I should be aware of regarding this beastly laptop to ensure I am getting the full potential? Any tips or suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

 

So let me get this straight. The current BIOS I have has the newest version of the Management Engine firmware for my specific variant of the GT80 (SLI-263) In that case, Flashing the same BIOS would be useless it sounds like. I feel like I should do a driver roll back on the Intel Management Engine Interface as updating that driver is what caused the problem in the first place, but scott has advised against doing that. If it is confirmed that I actually have the newest ME firmware for my specific GT80 variant, I can let the support person know as I have a feeling they don't know what version of the ME FW the newest BIOS is supposed to have for my specific GT80 variant.

 

I advised not doing a driver Rollback, but instead to uninstall your driver, reboot, and install the one you want to try.

I also recommended not using a Restore Point that is more than a month old, as it may cause problems with other things updated since.

I gave very good instructions via PM to avoid doing what you are doing now, filling up the general forum with these posts repeating all the same stuff.

Please re-read my responses, or go directly with MSI - which was my last recommendation.

I didn't say MSI was wrong, I said to confirm all the specifics of the details to make sure you and MSI are sync'd up according to the specifics of the model GT80, version of the BIOS, version of the BIOS ME, and version of the Windows ME Components and Driver.

Does your IMEI Device Manager entry show it's working? You never answered that question. Does it work, or show it is not working? Why are you pursuing this? What is the problem showing?

If it is working, stop futzing with IMEI, and you can move on to enjoying your laptop.

 

There's no need to flash your ME and MSI does not offer such support to update ME.
It can be done but it's not done through normal process.

 

Hello,

I have just purchased a GT80 SLI-001. I was after the dual 980m's, but the CPU and ram could use a slight push. Is it possible to upgrade the CPU or are these soldered directly to the board?

If soldered, is there any other difference from the SLI-001 motherboard from any of the newer GT80 models (in case I want to just keep an eye out for a replacement motherboard with an upgraded CPU).
Thanks.