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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

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    The CPU doesn't make enough of a difference from the slowest to the fastest in the GT80S series to really worry about it - the GPU performance is the same across all the 980m SLI models, and OC'ing the GPU's will get you far more performance FPS improvement than any CPU upgrade - if that were even possible.

    You can't upgrade the CPU because it's soldered. :)

    The GPU's are promised to be upgradeable as new Nvidia generations are released - 2 generations are what MSI promised. We assume they mean Pascal and Volta, but I haven't seen it specifically stated.

    The best way to improve performance of your SLI-001 is to read the early posts when that model was released, and read forward as the new owners discovered the OC potential and published their results.

    Congrats on the GT80, it's an awesome laptop for gaming, even at stock speeds :)
     
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    It says it works in Device Manager. Sorry I didn't answer that earlier, I guess I didn't see it. The only reason I am pursuing this is to try and fix the problem with my computer booting into the BIOS sometimes. It doesn't happen often and isn't major, but it's just something I wanna get fixed.
     
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    If the Intel MEI is working, then you can move on to another possible cause, which you should work with MSI to find.

    It's usually something to do with the boot volume not showing up at boot time, then the computer doesn't have anywhere to go other than the BIOS.

    My GT80 SLI-263 has already had 1 of the M.2 SSD's fail, and I tried to get MSI to replace it without shipping the whole GT80, but they declined.

    I had to break the RAID to find the bad/flaky drive, which went from flaky to dead in only a couple of weeks.

    Maybe backup your stuff to make sure you don't lose it, and then split the RAID to find the failing drive, if that is the root cause.

    Good luck :)
     
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    Thanks - especially for the search tip.

    I am upgrading from an Asus ROG G750JZ (i7 4700HQ, 24gig ram, GTX 880m), so I'm not expecting night and day differences, but this should be a pretty good bump.
     
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    Can you check the BIOS & EC version? Update them if they are outdated.
     
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    4720HQ is still plenty strong :) and you should see a nice bump in performance specially in SLI enabled games. All the way up to 100% more performance in some games :)
     
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    How does your device mgr looks like right now? Do you have exclamation on the Intel ME device?
     
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    I just did a BIOS update, and it seemed to fix my problem. I have done several shutdowns, and I have had no problems. I'll let you guys know if the shutdown problem comes back, but I am sure glad that the shutdown issue is resolved for now.
     
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    There are no caution marks of any sort in the device manager.
     
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    Cool, please keep us posted. Hopefully that's it.
     
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    Will do.
     
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    Well I got it! And boy am I happy! I got the MSI backpack and some MSI Steel Series Red Headphones/Mic and an MSI mouse and a $50 gift card and free shipping and NO SALES TAX.... All for duhn Duhn DUHN.... $2595 oooooou yeah!

    So far Workin good. Although my new *cough* super bad ass ddr4 G.Skill 2800mhz memory hasn't gotten in yet. I'm about to have 64GB of more cushin'for the push'n fellas. Might as well with this monster. Tried to USB boot w/ SANDISK CRUzER but found out they don't boot very well.
    Anyone try that G.Skill 2800mhz 16Gb modules? Sorry it's so long.

    **Update** Thx for all the acclaims. U sure make me feel welcome.
     
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    @G13 - Nice! Hopefully that beast treats you well. What are you going to be doing on it?
     
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    Are my raid drives failing?
    I get this message in event viewer that the raid zero had to be reset???
     
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    I haven't seen many complaints about GT80S PCIE x4 RAID0, but other brands have been having problems with RAID0 on Windows 10.

    Didn't a "large" Windows 10 Update just debut?

    Maybe "rollback", if you can?

    Or, hunt down updated drivers...
     
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    ProStar - hopefully as many different areas as I can.
    I became perm. disabled so I'm hopeing to prove I'm not useless through 'work' w/ my hands.

    2D/3D model/animation - Games - Video Editing/AfterFX - etc.
    But unfortunately my dad is having me learn Lightwave 3D bcuz it uses diff words than Maya for the same things.
    BTW Almost bought a prostar-- very interesting models they have & worth serious consideration.
     
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    *I'm sorry guys, is this technically spamming?*
    So hey I'm about to put Windows 7 on here but I was thinking, should I do a multiboot of Win 7 and Win 8 what do you think?
    I dread all the partitioning involved... Let's get this show on the road already! Game time DANGIT!
    *Answer - yes*
     
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    Could that error in your event log be coming from the IRST software if you’re using that? Does the IRST actually show any issues in it or is it only the Windows event log?

    No idea if this pertains in your situation or not since it was on past laptops, but I have seen RAID errors from the Intel Rapid Storage Technology driver although I never actually had any problems. My final solution was to remove IRST completely and leave it off. No more messing with errors and in my cases at least I never really had any problems. I remember using RAID 1 once and having to do a verify almost every boot, which took forever since it was a couple large drives. I’d seen similar errors on RAID 0 which were never a real problem either.
     
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    Hi . I found a opportunity to acquire an MSI GT80 Titan SLI 2QE Broadwell in liquidation , and the truth is I am very disappointed .

    On the one hand the temperatures are awful ( playing The Division Both CPU and GPU2 exceed 90 ° C ) and the noise level is really terrible (especially if I compare With the Asus G751JY Also I have at home or my old Msi GT72 2QE) .

    Panel quality is regular, and I also have a dead pixel in the lower left corner.

    Worth try to make a repaste or improvement is very small ??
     
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    The paste application may very well be the core issue with the temps, but if you're having all of those issues, you have the option to contact MSI about warranty service, as well as speak with the seller about these issues.
     
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    Was that with max fan setting or just normal fan operation?

    I'm not super familiar with that exact version but I would expect the cooling to be much better than that so a repaste may help a bunch.

    Noise, especially with max fan, will be loud yes. While the cooling is top notch, the noise is the compromise you have to take with it. At least it's not the super high pitched whiney fan noise you get from thin and light gaming laptops, and when running cool it shouldn't throttle like some do.
     
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    I had a similar issue with Call Of Duty Black Ops 3, i tried to set shift mode to green in the MSI dragon gaming center and now it remains at maximum 60° with every game (i never bought the division). In the sport setting, set for default, it can reach 85° or over.
     
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    Seems to be just event viewer and seems separate from irst... Would I lose anything by unjnstalli it
     
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    Definitely repaste. I tremendously disagree with the screen, but your temps for the GPUs are high. The CPU temps sadly might be normal, but a good repaste and undervolting should help you keep those in check so that you don't throttle. CPU throttling occurs I believe at around 95 degrees.

    My GPUs running the divisions usually reach 78 C for the hottest one, running all ultra/maxed. My CPU also reaches the 90s in this game. Most other games rarely go beyond 80 degrees.

    As for the screen, try overclocking it. I run mine at 100hz and it's awesome :) (which is part of the reason why the CPU gets pushed harder.

    Which version of the GT80 do you have?
     
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    So games that requires a desktop 970 and an i7 cpu in the recommended requirements don't work, i wanted to buy doom i can not install even that.
     
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    Hello guys, does anyone know where it is possible to buy replacement parts like the front panel please ? Thx
     
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    There should NOT be any game that forces you to a particular hardware. Recommended specs are not the minimum specs to run a game, and even that should be up to the player. Devs cannot possibly code a game for specific hardware level because GPUs are not linerarly representative of a power level.

    For example, older Kepler GPUs like the desktop 780Ti pack a punch, but due to the architecture, there might be games where a 970 can overcome it, and others where the 780ti definitely comes out on top. If the devs forced you to arbitrarily 970 or better, how can they gauge that?

    Some games tried to do it via CPU cores, and/or memory size in your GPU. But most have been patched out.

    As far as I remember, Doom is not out yet, it's a demo/alpha right? And I am not sure you can mess with settings (I think it auto selects settings depending on your manufacturer and model so it's hard to compare GPUs performance at all). I would suggest to wait until the full game comes out. 980m is around 15% slower than a 970, so it makes little sense to block 980m users, if a mild overclock will give the same performance. Worst case, we can mod the game to run.

    Basically, there should not be games that "require" specifically a 970. It's silly.

    Maybe try asking resellers to see if they can help out. It's a good question.
     
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    So, whats the current verdict - should I upgrade my GT80 (i7-4720HQ 2x980M) from Win8.1 to Win10, or are there still issues with drivers / hardware that I should be aware of?

    Everything is running just fine at the moment, with the most recent WHQL GPU drivers. Alternatively should I just stick with the "if it ain't broke don't try and fix it" approach instead?
     
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    Are you working good with hibernation and sleep?
     
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    sigh, still waiting on my HTC Vive, was in the first 5 minutes on the pre-order, and have been assured it will arrive before the end of april whatever that means. meanwhile, my new dilemma is to choose to keep my haswell 980m sli titan or this new MSI Dominator Dragon Edition with the 980 GTX. Newegg had too good an open box deal to pass up. I want to test VR on both. Already know I would miss the mechanical keyboard terribly, but the CPU upgrade wouldn't been too bad...
     
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    Windows 8.1 is stable, games from a wide range of genres are supported without issue, updates can be ignored for the most part - keeping MS out of our sock drawers - hardware drivers are available and stable, stuff just runs - kinda boring if you like life and death tragedy with your OS ;)

    DX11 performance on Nvidia is still way better than DX12 performance on Nvidia so no reason to upgrade to Windows 10 for DX12 games.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...c-but-only-win10.788098/page-16#post-10235758

    Physx scores drop from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10, so no advantage there.

    Nvidia drivers seem to have the most deleterious effect on Windows 10 users, while on Windows 8.1 I have been able to run every Nvidia driver update without problems for me - ignoring Battery mode for Nvidia GPU's, but I use iGPU on battery.

    I can't think of a single reason to move to Windows 10.

    At this point I may just forgo the Windows 10 upgrade completely, and leave this laptop on Windows 8.1 for the long haul.

    If Windows 10 Pro comes with my next laptop, I will roll-back to Windows 8.1 Pro as allowed by license. Windows 10 offers nothing I want or need.

    I think Windows 10 is turning into a No Op, and can be ignored for the foreseeable future.
     
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    Nope, turned them off as they were indeed causing issues since the last few drivers releases.
     
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    I've been running win10 without any particular mayor issues for a while, but I don't think it's an upgrade. Maybe in a year or two when actual good DX12 games come out?

    Anyways if you are happy, keep 8. Win 10 is not really better, and it does boot slower at least for me, but other than that, the experience is very similar. I simply never returned to 8 because I haven't been using my laptop as much to care to return haha.
     
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    Well, the 980 is about 20-30% faster than a 980m. I don't think the CPU will be of much influence either, but definitely try it out. I also want a Vive, but I need to wait some months before buying it :)
     
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    I updated Windows 10 month back in my GT80, gaming wise all good. But the major issue I am facing - Start menu/cortana/icons in task-bar freezes randomly. Select/Right-click-nothing works until I reboot. Tried with hibernation off also,no luck. Not sure if its really Nvidia driver related issue or Windows 10 bug. Any suggestion guys??
     
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    nVidia this happens in 7 and 8.1 too with any drivers upper 353.62 specially when you have hibernation and sleep activated.
     
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    well, my SLI-001 arrived. It rolled through the windows 10 update without issue and seems to work well when using wifi or plugged in via LAN, but I'm having some major issues if I tether with PDANET (tethering software). Initially it wouldn't work at all, but I disabled the Qualcom bandwidth control in the PDANET adapter settings which seemed to help, but there is still a TON of delay compared to my old ASUS ROG (running 7 pro). I am guessing it is some type of issue with the Killer software suite or something along those lines. Anyone ever have a similar issue or a suggested fix?

    I'm not a huge fan of Win 8 / 10, so has there been much luck running these on Windows 7 Pro, or is that not advised?
     
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    Windows 8.1 may give better results overall, and with Classic Menu it looks just like Windows 7 - you can turn off as much of the Tiled crap and uninstall it as you like - CCleaner can remove the Metro Apps.

    I would have recommended using MSI BurnRecovery first, before anything else - including upgrading to Windows 10. That way you have a copy of the Recovery Volume so you can regenerate the out of the box OS install when needed.

    You can still do that, but you may need to undo the Upgrade, and then do the BurnRecovery Flash drive - 32GB USB 3.0 minimum size.

    Have you been reading these forum threads? Because there are endless complaints about Windows 10 :)

    The Killer Suite drivers were updated a lot after Windows 10 released, and only recently - 4 months? - came out with a release that fixed the last bug that caused issues. Download and install the latest version.
    http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads

    To stop the odd lag, go into the Network Manager Settings, and run the upload/download speed test to set the base values so it can compute things correctly, otherwise the defaults are off enough to cause problems.
    killer manager settings automatic Speed setting now available.JPG

    Roll back to Windows 8.1, turn off Hibernation, paging, don't use sleep, update to the latest Nvidia driver 364.71, and update all your other drivers.

    I use this tool from IOBit, and it has saved me a lot of time. Normally I would do it all by hand, but after running this for a few months, it's doing it better than I can :)

    IOBit Driver Booster
    http://www.iobit.com/en/driver-booster.php

    It will find all the little things we usually miss.
    driver booster run.JPG

    Turn off Hibernation by using a Windows cmd Windows Run As Administrator:

    powercfg /h off

    Reboot, and from now on your boot/shutdown will be real. This helps with shutdown issues and boot up problems.

    Congrats on your new GT80, Have fun :)
     
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    This has been very helpful, particularly regarding Windows 10. I will avoid upgrading for now.

    I'm having issues with the Network Adaptor disconnecting intermittently, and I suspect the Killer driver. I updated from the site as you suggest, and I'm trying the IOBit tool. Thanks! Fingers crossed.
     
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    Nvidia not release pascal at gtc?????
     
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    There's a LOT of pages. lol. I've been working on them, and read reports indicating 10 is gtg - hence the upgrade. It still runs well outside of the PDANet issue, and I am not sure if that is a Win10 specific issue or not.

    Is 7 an option on these, or are there bugs and missing drivers? I would like the option of 7 Pro.

    I also tried to update the speed via the killer software (with updated drivers) and it failed, citing that it was unable to accurately measure the speed.
     
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    What, you've been hiding under an Armadillo? ;)

    Nvidia released the Tesla P100 - Datacenter edition.

    Nothing for us gaming peasants, yet...
     
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    Not sure I'm microstuttering could occur in Vr though ... Many programs seem to be focused on single GPU Vr
     
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    Wonder why? Maybe they have a stockpile of chips with ddr5x and some with hbm2 and they are going to decide which to sell based on what amd does... Lol
     
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    We try to stay away from armadillos in Texas--- they tend to carry diseases
     
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    Interesting, sounds like an interesting bug for Rivet, file a bug report. Try it a couple of more times. Also, disable wireless when testing Ethernet, and disable Ethernet when testing Wireless.

    For 7 driver availability, check on the MSI site for your model, there should be a drop down to select which Windows version to view for download for drivers, utilities, etc.

    When you say PDANET, are you trying to connect to the internet through your phone as a Hotspot?

    Might be too slow / unreliable to get a reading through that...
     
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    Yeah, I think I got 6.3 with 1 GPU, should work, don't care :)
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Read about the event, watch the Keynote(s), you will see the future :)

    Far more important than the gaming GPU's, makes them more money, keeps them ahead of Intel, and assures their financial success - so they can keep shipping faster gaming GPU's!
     
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