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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. _JMiLLY_

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    Alright guys, I have two questions about peripherals here. I already have Astro A50s that I use with my Xbox and PC, but I am looking for a non wireless headset specifically for my computer.

    1st question: I have an external sound card, the sound blaster x-fi surround 5.1 Pro. If I were to buy the Astro A40s, would I be able to skip on buying the mixamp bundle considering and use this sound card as my amp?

    2 question: What are your recommendations for a gaming headset? Willing to spend around $150-$250 on another headset.

    Thanks, you are all always great help!
     
  2. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    Do you have a screenshot of the anomaly? What were you running when the issue occurred?

    You have to get G-Sync models in order to get smooth experience with FPS, otherwise those non-G-sync panels won't please you at all.
     
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    decided to return the 29th anniversary dominator G72S with the 980X. As nice as it was (G-sync impressed) the mechanical keyboard would be missed. plus with my base stations now properly installed i haven't had any glitches with my Vive for the last two days. Seems to play every game I throw out it in VR without a sweat. only using a minor overclock of 100core, 150 memory with it. restored vbios to stock.
     
  4. hmscott

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    So you are saying you kept the GT80 980m SLI and returned the GT72S 980 desktop single GPU?

    Good choice :)

    Your post signature still says: Current Notebook: Razer Blade Gaming Laptop
     
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    I use my screen overclocked at 100hz and I have no problems with shooters or response time nor input lag so far.
     
  6. Ironjer

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    Guys where can find The original .iso Windows 8.1 for this notebook?
     
  7. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    Please contact MSI tech support team directly to purchase the recovery discs.
     
  8. rayShow162

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    Hey Guys,
    i brought the MSI GT80 with the i7-4720HQ and SLI 980M for under 2000€. It will arrive next Week. So i´ve got some questions.
    1. Ist the i7 fourth Generation powerfull enough for the next years?
    2. Is it correct that MSi will provide MXM Support for the next two Generations?
    3. When it will arrive. How should i proceed?
    Update Firmware, Bios, Upgrade to Windows 10, Install Drivers?
    4. Should i replace the Thermal Compound with high quality

    I hope you will answer my questions. Thanks in advance.
     
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  9. ZoOLf

    ZoOLf Notebook Consultant

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    Hii you will be happy with it
    To be quick.

    1- i think yes
    2- that what msi said, yes.
    3- you can update every think, for win10 as you like, there is who dont like it etc etc, as me i have win 10 i like it, i use O&O shutup10 to stop telemetry cortana etc etc, but with win 10 we have problem with sleep and hibernation foctions.
    4- i think there is no need, i did a remplacement with thermal grizzly kryo and minus pad 8 no gain... Same themp.

    I hope i replied to your interrogations

    Regards.

    By the way did any one tested ashes of the singularity with dx12 and sli? I got a bad perf 24fps :s
     
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    Welcome to the boards and to the owner's thread of the GT80 :)

    I'm sure you will find this model fascinating :D I shall try my best to answer your questions.

    1) Yes, definitely. If recent benchmarks show anything, people with even older 2nd gen CPUs are fine for gaming. The core i7 4720hq runs at up to 3.6ghz quad core, that's plenty fast for gaming as it is :) I have no problems running any game so far and it will definitely work for years to come.

    2) We don't know if it means support for two total generations (meaning 980m and new 1080m) or two additional generations (1080m and 1180m for example). I am at least confident it will support 1080m. The reason we don't know if future generations are a sure thing, is because we don't know if MXM will disappear for the new generations after Pascal.

    3) I'd say you should definitely get the latest VBIOS, BIOS and EC firmware. In my opinion it is a must have, because I did encounter an issue where sometimes it wouldn't boot properly and the screen would remain black. That was fixed with updates and now always boots because it does a PCIe retry function. Windows 10 does work with the model and I have run that for a while now. That being said, I did have a lot of problems when updating because Sound Blaster Cinema 2 is no longer suported, but I prefered it over Nahimic, so I had to update everything, then downgrade realtek drivers until the last version that supports Sound Blaster, then launch Sound Blaster in compatibility mode.

    Heavily recommended: Disable Hibernation/sleep. These currently cause crashing issues with nvidia drivers, because nvidia broke their drivers after 353.62.

    Use windows 10 only if you have reason to, or you want to. For me the only reason I am using it is for DX12, but no game has come out that uses it so far, except Tomb Raider, and it doesn't support SLI in DX12 so it's useless hahaha :)

    4) I will say yes. If you are confident with repasting, you should definitely be careful and try your best, specially for the CPU. I also would recommend you to undervolt your CPU after trying it out. The GPUs tend to have much better cooling than the CPU.

    Things you should know: It is normal that one GPU has higher temp than the other. This is in part because the GPUs have a mirrored heatsink arrangement with the pipes, but the GPUs themselves are both on the same side/direction, so one GPU can run around 8 to 10 degrees higher. Normal temps I have seen with many users and in my case, have the GPU temps about 65 GPU1 and 75 GPU2 celsius. If a game is very demanding, GPU temps can rise more and reach the 80s for GPU2.

    CPU temps are on the hot side, running up to 80s for regular games and can reach 90s on the demanding games. This is why it's recommended to repaste. So far this has not affected me though.

    After everything is updated and set, run some benchmarks to check your scores and temps. We recommend also having Hwmonitor for temps/utilizations, MSI Afterburner and MSI's Silent Option for additional fan control.
     
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    Does it support SLI? DX12 so far has been underwhelming, and it is also known that nvidia does not have much benefit on DX12 as AMD so maybe your performance is what we are supposed to get? I haven't tried it. Is there a benchmark around or do you have to buy it?
     
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    Yes i tested it on dx12, i checked multi gpu on option, in the summary for the bench i can see
    Gpu1 980m
    Gpu2 980m
    But the perf its like single gpu lol 24-27 fps
    Msibafterburner dont works for dx12 to monitor the gpus usage and temps.
    With hwmonitor i see usage gpu1 70 as gpu2 76
    I have GOG version, its have integrated bench.
     
  13. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    It is powerful enough for many years, but the GPU is probably about two years.
    You can update the BIOS, EC firmware, and drivers when the unit arrive, but please also be sure to make recovery discs for future use (just in case you want to upgrade to a better SSD).
    Finally, you can upgrade the thermal compound to IC diamond which can help with a few degrees.
     
  14. psimoon

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    I have a GT80 SLI 980M Broadwell that has been plagued kernel video driver crashes with the last several Nvidia drivers. The odd thing I noticed was that they only seem to occur when I am on battery. This morning I booted up without being plugged into AC and I had two in about one min. Then I plugged in the charger and have not had one for the last 3 hours. I have disconnected the charger, but have not had one occur. So maybe it is random, but I do know that I have not had one while plugged up, only while unplugged.

    It seems odd that this is happening only on battery for me and seems to go away when I plug up.

    I have sleep and hibernation off.

    The other odd thing is that I have set close lid to do nothing, but when I close the lid, it shuts down/tries to sleep. when I open the lid it boots from scratch. It seems that the power settings are not saving from boot to boot.
     
  15. mason2smart

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    Hey guys, i was thinking of buying some sort of external battery pack to plug into the back of my laptop...
    Is there some sort of standard connector i could use? I haven't found any battery packs with a 4 pin connector yet...
     
  16. mason2smart

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    where did u get your footer from? I asked xotic for one and they ignored me...
     
  17. rayShow162

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    Thank you for all the answers. Another question i have is abbout the oc Potential. How Good can i overclock The gpus? I Think for The Next Years it is Not necassary but then.
     
  18. mason2smart

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    You can overclock the HK to 3.9 ghz
    And the GPU can overclock +135,+300
     
  19. rayShow162

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    Ok thanks.
    Does my GT80 support GSYNC and has it Thermal compound paste or a pad?
    Thanks in advance
     
  20. ZoOLf

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    Gsync is not supported by SLI,
    The MXM card have thermal past for the gpu, and pad for the Vram.
     
  21. rayShow162

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    Ok good to know. Where can i find the unlocked vbios for this cards?
     
  22. GTVEVO

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    Say what? The P870dmg is sli and gsync at 75fps native 1080p or 60fps at 2160p

    Maybe he meant to say there are no 18 inch gsync pannels at this time.


    However if you use an external monitor that supports gsync it will work so FYI.

    Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
     
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    So is the current nvidia driver not safe or wise to use if you are on a Windows 10 system?

    I just bought my machine and it only had a windows 10 option so I am considering returning and waiting further if nvidia's drivers are so wonky that it can actually be dangerous to update them in Windows 10 for sli setups
     
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    Any thoughts on this???
     
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    I also bought my gt80 with win 10, i got some problems with previous driver, but now its perfect if my pc is on direct boot ( not woke from sleep)
     
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    which model?
    I have a -002 and im perfectly fine on the latest drivers... ;)
     
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    SILENT FAN CONTROL DOESN"T WORK ON MY COMPUTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I picked up the -002 version and definitely liking it so far.

    The screen is definitely solid even though there's no gsync. I was able to get the monitor up to 100hz without any artifacts so far in testing.

    Ugh bad news about Silent Fan Control not working...Are there are any other ways to try to control fan monitoring? It'd be nice to have another option rather than 100% full fans for programs that don't need 100% but could use more than default.

    Good to hear that it should be safe to try the new nvidia drivers. I made sure to disable sleep and hibernation right away.
     
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    does ur screen sometimes get stuck black when waking up at 100 hz?
     
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    Any thoughts on using an external battery to lengthen the battery life of the laptop?
     
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    Anybody has seen Windows 10 activate every boot? Sometime won't without internet. Is this happening just to me? Keeps asking me for verify my identity too. I made clean install The same result.
     
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    wipe it. duh.
     
  33. Ironjer

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    Working in.

    Remember i dont have the original OS my RAID arrange was deleted.
     
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    Are there any other programs that can modify fan control besides the Silent Option app which doesn't appear to work with the Windows 10 + Skylake combo? I assume the answer is probably now but was curious.

    Looking at the MSI forums some people are saying to try "Dragon Center" (not Dragon Gaming Center) which evidently is out for the MSI Vortex but looks like some laptop owners have been able to use that successfully with the Window 10 + Skylake combo. I may give that a shot as this laptop is a winner for me if I can have proper fan control.
     
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    Go to a site like cheapdigitaldownload and find a cheap is product key download a trial of Windows 10 and activate it
     
  37. ryzeki

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    Happens to me every other time there are updates or something. Since I use an external cd key because I have win 8.1 pro, I just place my cd key again and it gets fixed. Microsoft really dropped the ball there haha.
     
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    I never thought about it, but it would only work if you want very low performance, as it only provides around 3.5A at 19v. Are you in a place where you can't charge your laptop every 2 hours? I haven't seen an external battery with the 4 pin connector. Probably because the 4 pin connector means lots of power. The only thing I have seen people use are inverters to user the AC adapter while on a car etc.

    Maybe you will need to contact whomever made Silent Option to make an updated version that your PC can use. The only other method is to directly write hex values to the EC but you would need to know a ton of info, from the address of the memory where to write, to the values, and probably will have to write it every time you boot.
     
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    I can confirm that the Dragon Center app that is listed for Vortex does work on the GT80s (custom fan settings and all).

    Just ran a stress test for 5 minutes at 3.87ghz where Max Temp was 77F and avg was 60 with the custom fan settings. Is that about right for these Skylake processors (my last laptop was Haswell and they seemed to run a little hotter)?
     
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    Can u provide a link?
     
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    Well I just want to extend battery life... Provide a sort of trickle charge.

    After all, since I have the -002 model I cannot disable discrete mode and am forced to constantly run on a minimum of one GPU
     
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    What's the mah of the internal battery?
     
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    I don't see a custom fan setting there seems like the same software as before
     
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    never mind rebooted and the control thing popped up... SO weird how it recognizes laptop and still shows color modifications for the cortex desktop. ALSO ITS MINIMUM OVERCLOCK IN SPORTS MODE IS 4 GHZ --- I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO RUN STABLY AT ANYTHING OVER 3.8 GHZ? IS THIS DANGEROUS DOES THIS ACTUALLY OVERCLOCK TO 4 GHZ?

    DOES THE EXISTANCE OF THE LED COLOR CHANGER PROVE IT COULD THEORETICALLY CHANGE COLORS?

    Thanks,
    Mason
     
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    As to the LED Color Changer, those settings will not have any impact on the Laptop. In essence, this is a Vortex app that has a number of Vortex only features, but it does allow laptop fan control as well as let you run a few diagnostics.

    As to the sport mode, my experience is that if you use the Dragon Control Manger that came with our laptop to set the sport mode, the machine will shift to the 3.87ghz overclock rather than the 4.0 ghz overclock. I had similar concerns.

    Other method would be to just handle overclocking in the intel xtu (which is also how I checked which sport overclock mode was in effect).
     
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    The 2 applications don't mesh gaming center continually crashes

    Hey guys check out my new footer!
     
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    So the MSI GT80 supports GSync on an external Monitor. Thanks for the info
     
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    As long as the monitor supports it also, then sure. Systems that have the video out ports routed to the NVidia card/chip should typically offer G-Sync with any G-Sync compatible monitor.
     
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