***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

Still did u guys see the screen flex --- it was HORRIBLE

 

And, please start editing your posts to add new content, instead of starting a chain of replies to your own posts...thanks

 

No, really, the news is:

STOP RE-POSTING THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN POSTED

READ A THREAD BEFORE POSTING

STOP REPLYING TO YOUR RECENT POSTS TO ADD INFO YOU CAN EDIT IN TO THE PREVIOUS POST

 

Dude, you didn't even go 1 page back, the posting of that video was the first post on the previous page...

 

Not on my phone it wasn't

 

That would be cruel to us students

 

The GT83 hasn't really changed over the GT80S, so that screen flex is the same as your current laptop... he just applied pressure in the wrong place too quickly, watch it again and try that same motion on your GT80S lid.

 

That would be cruel to us students

 

Well I can't say much since my hinges are misaligned some and I am trying not to stress them

 

That's how it works, sell out old stock to the students during Back to School, and then put the rest under the tree during the Holiday Season in December", then announce the fun new stuff in Jan/Feb, ship in Mar/April.

 

Geez man, RMA your laptop and get it fixed

 

There's your problem, get a tablet

 

There are no 18.4" 4k Displays, Asus had a custom 18" 4K display made for the GX800VG, probably will be exclusive to Asus.

 

So far, it's a very cool piece of technology. there is not that many games out right now, but it's been very entertaining. Until creative ideas hit the stride, it feels like good for arcade fun type of games, or puzzles. Definitely a cool system for non-gamers as it is rather intuitive. I will introduce it to a lot of friends and family and see how they react.

I haven't used virtual desktop (if that's a different software) but you can use the mouse/keyboard on the computer to select stuff in-game, because the person wearing the helmet can't type as fast etc. there is a virtual keyboard that you can type on, and you can browse the web on it.

The resolution is not that good in my opinion. we need higher res. Or maybe it's the way things are rendered. At any rate, we need way more GPU power to ensure super smooth gaming with good graphics. Most games so far are rather simple in graphics to ensure high framerate. I am sure my 980m is being pushed despite them being rather simple games.

 

Crud.

 

Seems more like an optimization problem in my opinion...

 

You can't optimize a display to be higher resolution

It's going to be a few revisions, upgrades in gpu power, display technology, and input technology, before we can "live" in VR and do day to day tasks with the same ease as we do day to day tasks now using the displays of our phones, tablets, PC's.

 

So things look pixelated?

 

No it's like looking at 720p scaled to 1080 because the system can't run it at 1080p or the game itself is 720p like the steam Vr test that didn't even fill the screen.

 

The VR Standard is 970 performance, that's what the RX480 performance is as well, sold to fit the VR Standard.

If all apps are built to that standard, it's gonna be what you are seeing now moving forward

I hope they roll out a VR X Standard requiring 1080ti SLI cards as a minimum, and really crank up the headsets to 5k @ 120hz.

 

Looks aliased/lower resolution.

 

Y'all should check this out! Microsoft is actually releasing a Vr platform!

 

Thanks for fixing it
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There is no Microsoft info in your attachment, it is a screenshot of a post in this forum, and it doesn't mention Microsoft.

 

oops wrong app grabbed safari and not my email lol.

 

It was sounding interesting, and then "Windows 10", oh well - I remembered, it's Microsoft, so nothing from them comes without a Windows 10 Upgrade Requirement.

I can do without it

 

I found an interesting article today... http://videocardz.com/60853/nvidia-to-offer-desktop-graphics-in-notebooks
Wonder what this means for MSI's upgrade plan.

 

It only means they will be named differently. Notebook GPUs will still be MXM modules for the time being. You won't go out and purchase a desktop 1080 and put it on your laptop. It all simply means that if your laptop says it has a GTX 1080, it will have the same cores, ROPs, TMUs, etc etc, just most likely reduced memory and core clocks with adjusted voltage and limits for TDP.

Which means your GTX 1080 on a laptop won't necessarily perform the same on every laptop! And only some select few might reach normal desktop operation.

 

Could still be a notebook GPU but labeled as a desktop gpu for notebooks to make people associate it with desktop performance -- could be in name only and not really be desktop gpu's. After all, they are going to be made "special and with higher quality" for notebooks

 

There is a long ongoing thread discussing this topic here, with more links and info :

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...00m-series-gpus.763032/page-347#post-10268937

 

Thanks for the info! Really clears things up.

 

Hey guys, I am in need of assistance. I got my Titan -002 ( 980m SLI) and am experiencing micro-stuttering in games. This was something I had not read about in previous months before ordering this system. All else is really amazing and I love this notebook.. just freaking out that the GPU is not running smooth like my old GT70 with a single 780m.

When I googled it, it seems to be a common issue with the Nvidia SLI set ups. I haven't updated the drivers, as the ones GentechPC sent it with are 362.00 version from March. What do you recommend I do to troubleshoot? Seems a shame to disable SLI as a fix. Thanks in advance!

 

* This advice works for Windows 10 as well, I do suggest going to Windows 8.1 for stable operation, MS keeps issuing mega updates that change too much stuff, I am waiting them out until they pick a place to stabilize and stop making functional changes. Could be a long wait *

My GT80 SLI-263 never exhibited that problem on Windows 8.1, always running the latest Nvidia driver - downloaded from Nvidia and installed after running DDU to uninstall the previous release.

I also updated to the latest BIOS and Intel INF / IMEI and all other hardware drivers.

I mostly do the updates manually watching the support area for my model, and new models too - all on Windows 8.1.

I recently started using a driver helper, IOBit Driver Booster, and it found updates for many things I didn't even know to look for, and it didn't cause any problems, so I kept using it.

I still check MSI Support for my GT80 SLI-263 and from time to time notice a new BIOS update that I do manually.

I also disable lots of Windows 8.1 and app services that I don't need running, and use tools like DWS (Destroy Windows Spying), Spybot anti-beacon, Aegis scripts to disable Telemetry background processes and scheduled tasks.

I also disable Windows Hibernation - which disables Fast Startup (not related to the BIOS setting), and that re-enables normal Windows shutdown / startup which Nvidia drivers seem to like better.

With 8+ GB of memory we don't *need* a pagefile, so I disable that too. Disabling both I recovered 32GB+8GB of pagefile/hiberfil.sys space on my C: SSD.

Problems out of the box, with an unpatched / updated system do seem to get mentioned, that's why I was happy to give you some info on updating, to see if that helps.

Nvidia driver 365.19 is the latest driver that gets the best marks for stability and performance, I would start with updating to that one.

Also, google for your specific game for SLI issues, often there are specific in game settings and external Nvidia game profile settings that can improve things.

Most times the solutions for game problems are on the game support sites themselves, or Steam Community.

Good luck, and have fun

 

Which game is experiencing this? are you running a clean install of nvidia drivers? use DDU and completely do a clean install. Update your wifi drivers as well to the latest ones. I can't remember any recent game I have experienced with microstuttering.

 

I just got the notebook today from GentechPC. Specific build, Completely clean, no bloatware etc.
Don't judge, but I play World of Warcraft which, I know is not an SLI game, and I also play many games on Steam. I haven't installed my Steam yet but since I play competitive with 19 other people in end game mythic content in WoW, that's the most important to me at this time to get set up and ready to go. I also play the Total War series, Dark Souls III, Black Ops 3, and Battlefield 4.

Since the notebook just arrived this afternoon, it's taken me a while to get Win 10 organized. IE: turning off all the crap that wants to take control of the system. I really dislike Win 10 so far. When I did get in game on WoW, I ran some instances with 24 other people and then I noticed the micro-stuttering. FPS was decent, no complaints. I even lowered graphics in game to a medium setting to make sure all would go smooth.
I really do NOT want to mess with any fresh installs of anything since Ken's techs just put this beast together I suppose I can call him tomorrow and see what he recommends, too.

 

P.s If a game doesn't take advantage of SLI, that shouldn't create performance issue like the stuttering, should it?

 

That's the theory

It's easy to disable SLI in the Nvidia Control panel, so you could do that just once to see if the stuttering goes away.

I would make sure the stuttering is actually happening while SLI is enabled, and then switch quickly to make sure going to single GPU is really the solution.

Often stuttering is network related too... if you are on Wifi, test it using Ethernet direct to your router.

If you are using Wifi you want to update to the latest Killer driver, using drivers only to start.

Then when you find that fixes it, you can install the Suite and set up the upload/download settings to your specific network throughput - so the Killer Suite can tune for best performance.

Killer drivers only download
http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads/standard-drivers

Killer Suite download
http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads

 

I don't think this 1080 will be capable for my gt80 2qe titan sli 038 IT(desktop 980's weren't), i'm planning to buy a new notebook if they are not supported.

 

Thank you for the links to the Killer drivers. I always have had Killer in my MSI systems before and interestingly, I never updated them in the past, and also never have had issues with performance. Awesome, right?
I did some testing earlier and my system is performing well with no GPU stutter in SLI games. I will check WoW again and disable SLI if the problem continues today. I use the Geforce Experience to optimize my games, so we will see if that makes a difference. The one thing I have not done yet is update the Nvida driver and will do so shortly.
Still fighting with Win 10 and the hidden garbage all over it, Can't even do basic Windows Updates correctly without issue. Wouldn't M$ have learned by now?
Many thanks for the help!

 

You shout probably be getting max frames in something like WoW even with only one GPU. Stuttering you are seeing could be because u turned down ur settings and ur Fps is so high vsync cannot keep up. Are u sure it isn't due to screen tearing?

I had this issue in MKX and had a hard time finding the right settings because even at 3k the tearing was really bad but at 4K the FPS just dropped like a rock...

 

If it does not take advantage of sli, you will probably see weird glitches on characters and objects. For example all the bushes and grass in World of tanks had bad shadows and were black and grainy

 

Here is an Example:

Although I have contacted nvidia many times about it and even asked wargaming and confirmed the lack of sli support in world of warships, nvidia control panel automatically turns on sli and doesn't see the game as incompatible with it.

This is what world if warshipslooks like with sli turned on:


And here is world of tanks:



As you can see it usually causes graphical glitches and not frame stuttering...

 

You got it right there! Kudos to you!!
I just talked with Ken and it's exactly what he said is going on. The FPS is too high and the "micro-stutter" is the result. WoW does have a feature to cap my fps, so I will test that out shortly. Makes perfect sense when you think about it. All else fails, I can disable SLI when I play that particular game.
When I woke up this morning and saw this Titan beast of a computer sitting here, it felt like Xmas.
Now I'm off to download The Division and have some fun!
Thanks for all the excellent responses. I love this forum.

 

I would recommend, once everything works properly to take a clean image backup of your computer with macrium

 

That's great news

My last reply was so long I left out the tuning of the FPS to fit the refresh of the screen, I was going to follow up on it after you updated the Nvidia driver, you'll see why later.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...n-owners-lounge.769092/page-728#post-10269595

That is likely what helps me avoid SLI stutter too.

You can create a Custom resolution in the Nvidia Control, only change the refresh rate, the max stable most people can get reliably is 100hz.

Then install MSI Afterburner + Rivatuner (RTSS), and use the FPS Limiter to set the limit to Refresh+1, or 101 for a screen refresh of 100hz.

Most games I run will run faster than 100 fps @ 1080p, so that's the base setting I use.

Some games will only do 80 fps average, so I set the refresh to 80hz, and the FPS limiter to 81.

I also set 96hz refresh for movies, 4 multiples of 24. Seems to help, but 100hz is close enough, so most times I don't bother changing.

These settings keep tearing from happening, and apparently the micro-stutter I never see

It also keeps games from running away at high FPS generating heat and therefore high fan speeds - keeps the laptop cool and quiet.

As far as game settings, you can try vsync / adaptive, or the built in frame limiter too, but I find setting it in RTSS is enough.

And, don't forget to upgrade the Nvidia driver first, because every time you do a Custom=>Clean install of the Nvidia driver - and use DDU first - you lose all custom settings and need to redo them

 

Speaking of world of tanks and sli issues, why did nvidia just add it to GeForce experience and list it as sli compatible?

 

I have had bad luck with custom resolutions and issues with black screens and flickering or half grey half black screens

 

Never happens to me

Maybe you aren't unsetting the duplicate game settings, and it's snapping between 60hz and custom refresh?

If you have a frame limiter, vsync, or refresh setting in the game it needs to be disabled or match the custom refresh + RivaTuner FPS limiter.

Other tools have frame limiters too, that can sync to refresh automatically, defaulting to 60hz, that can mess things up too.

Don't blame a well established long working solution, like RTSS, find the right way to put the settings on a case by case basis for the game / RTSS / other tools.

Borderline instability added by OC'ing to the edge can do it too.

Unset DSR in Nvidia Global Settings if you have it enabled, disable it by unchecking check box for N:N setting.

 

It's when I turn in the computer or wake it up from sleep most of the times it happens


Duplicate game settings???

 

Hang, on I think I have seen this happen with DSR being set in the Nvidia Control panel.

Do you have a custom DSR set? In the Nvidia Global 3d setting for DSR, uncheck the N:N check box.

Geforce Experience was setting some games, like Metal Gear games and a couple of others with a recommended DSR that was flipping DSR on in the Nvidia *Global* 3d Settings.

I disable it in Nvidia Control Panel Global 3d settings each time it does this with a new game profile, set the GFE profile to 1920x1080 1:1 so it doesn't do this again, and make sure the game is set to not use DSR.

The DSR GFE setting Global 3d Nvidia setting makes the DSR setting effect everything, not just the game.

 

It does it with dsr off too



I noticed there are a lot of complaints about the 1080's heat outputs and throttling? I thought it was supposed to have less heat output. May make it difficult to put one in a laptop.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...eries/gtx-1080-founders-edition-fan-issue-/1/