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Been having issues with disks in it that have logos on them or images burned onto them being "unbalanced" and sounding like a lawnmower if not louder.

 

Be sure you left the checkbox set for SmartSector backup (named something like that), which only backs up the sectors with data - otherwise a full image copy will be huge - the full size of the disk - but that would compress really well

 

You mentioned that when you first got it, pre-robot, and I never have had that issue with the one in the GT80.

You could find a new 4k ready one (I haven't looked) when they are available, and swap in one of those.

 

I don't use disks very often anyways (less than once a month even)


Try the drivers disk that came with ur laptop and see if it sounds like a lawnmower

 

I already did that for you, when you got your laptop, mine sounds fine.

But, I have a different model, SLI-263, and it came with Windows 8.1, so likely a different disc.

 

Doesn't really sound like a worthwhile investment if you only get 6 weeks of summer with it... you will be doing other things too

Maybe find someone local you can share with, someone that is already bored of it and doesn't mind loaning it out.

Or a local University, Library, High School, etc:
http://tech.rochester.edu/loan-visualization-equipment/

 

SALE!! like u mentioned, no need to compare sale price on a new released ssd at its regular rate. hmscott, stop cherry picking

 

And the little buck doesn't even know he's already ensnared in the hunter's trap.

It is what it is man, all the m.2 PCIE SSD's are "early sale" devices, way overpriced for what you get, at many times the cost of same storage size M.2 SATA drives.

The 1TB M.2 PCIE drive may be early in it's high priced rut, but only slightly more overpriced than the 512GB / 256GB M.2 PCIE SSD's that precede it.

If you want that high priced PCIE M.2 SSD, ya got's to pay what they's askin.

And, as the price of the M.2 PCIE drives drop, so tracketh the M.2 SATA drives - the pricing parity of 1:1 forever out of reach.

The M.2 PCIE drives will remain overpriced compared to the M.2 SATA of the same storage size.

Just so you know the Sandisk 1TB M.2 SATA SSD is *also* new to the market, as are all the 1TB M.2 SATA SSD's. So it's a fair comparison.

 

heh in a way you're more negative about some new hardware than i am

 

@Mr. Fox check out my benchmark scores (I have the #1 GT80s-002 score )

 

Nice, and congrats on the #1 spot on Fire Strike. I don't have 980M SLI installed in anything any more. This was my best Fire Strike for the P870DM. http://www.3dmark.com/fs/6888349

@GTVEVO holds the 980M SLI Fire Strike record for that machine. http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/7333219/fs/6888349/fs/8357459

Here are my #1 scores for single 200W 980 and 180W 980 SLI on the P870DM

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/8291254/fs/8625306

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/11199450/3dm11/11287728

 

I am running into a problem with the keyboard -- I cannot find a way to use alt codes. I just saw that this was asked about 100 pages back and no one answered it. Has there been any updated information on this matter?

 

the alt codes? by chance you meant the function key?

 

Maybe you can try it for @RMPG505 - I don't have access to a GT80 keyboard

Special Characters, Altcodes, see how to instructions at bottom of page:
http://tools.oratory.com/altcodes.html

 

Hello guys,

i have some questions for you...
i want to buy MSI GT80 with GTX970M SLi...it will be enough for VR Ready?
Is it there some problems with SLi? I mean microtearing of screen?
Is it Optimus available?

Thank you

 

The current 970m SLI GT80S SLI-012 model doesn't provide access to the iGPU. It doesn't have Optimus and it doesn't have a MUX switch to disable the dGPU's and enable the iGPU.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA57X3V91990&cm_re=sli-012-_-34-152-984-_-Product

You would need to get the SLI-258 Broadwell model, still for sale at Newegg, it lets you switch between iGPU and dGPU - requires a reboot:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16834152809

You need to rate a single GPU, not the SLI together, as the current VR software won't do SLI/Multi-gpu.

So for mobile you will need at least a 980 SLI, or when they come out, the 1080 mobile SLI or 1070 mobile SLI.

 

I have the -002 model and it should be "good enough" for Vr but a no compromise all out Vr system would have dual desktop 980's

I like having no Optimus -- reduces issues that can occur with the software/hardware integration of the Mux switch in the other models

 

I believe some games like starwars battlefront and gta 5 as well as crysis 3 can do Vr or will do Vr and should support multigpu

 

Those desktop CPUs make a huge difference in performance

 

I tried the vive today at the Microsoft store

@ryzeki i noticed the pixel depth issue you mentioned

Also noticed jumpy pixrls and rainbows on the edges of stuff? Is that normal or did the Microsoft guys not set up the fresnel lenses properly

 

The keyboard will not make alt code special characters... :-( Such as alt 0152 or alt 0136 etc... it just types out exactly that. I cant send ingame mail or communicate with other players that use these special alt codes in their names. It's a major issue. Now I do realize I may be overlooking something simple.. lol.. So please take that into consideration.
I'm actually on the phone with MSI about it now and I've been waiting for the rep to get the answer for over 25 min already. Will update if I get any good news!

 

Lol does anyone use alt codes anymore. I haven't used them like...ever...

 

I believe they don't work because the numberpad is implemented diferently than a normal keyboard, and thus it most likely disabled? I didn't notice before but indeed mine don't work either. Perhaps you can try custom codes or something using steel series engine software? It might disable other things though. You can control anything over the software but In my case my normal FN functions didn't work properly.

Right now VR does not support SLI properly. Even if you download the steamVR test and enable double GPU, it does not mean games right now use them. As such, I believe 980m might be the absolute minimum to ensure a good experience. 970m might have a bit of problems keeping the refreshrate high enough.

Other than that, I have had overall a very positive experience with my titan in all games

Nice, what did you think of VR using the Vive? the pixels and rainbows on the edge,... hmm that's not something I remember. One thing that happens due to the fresnel lenses is that things out of the middle are out of focus and thus look a bit blurry, but I don't remember rainbows.

I think we need way stronger GPUs to ensure high resolution and refresh rates. This might be the reason why current games run lowish resolution, because 980m is not powerful enough.

 

Have you tried anything like

http://www.mtbs3d.com/start-here/welcome

Or

http://www.vorpx.com

Or

https://m.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/48ovt0/bleeding_edge_leap_motion_orion_vive_controllers/


On the vive?

At Microsoft they had a huge Alienware meant for sli but with only the bear minimum 970 to power the vive

 

That "bear minimum 970" is faster than a single 980m... which is why even a GT80S 980m SLI laptop isn't up to spec for VR... OC'd it might get close to making the bottom edge of performance, but really not adequate for all current games or more demanding games down the road.

The 1080 mobile SLI GT83 or maybe even the 1070 mobile SLI GT73 should be ok - we just don't know how cut-down the Pascal GPU's will be for mobile.

 

From the looks of what I have seen its going to be a considerable reduction more like the current ratio of mobile to desktop. May end up being a "desktop chip" in name only and a mobile chip in performance

It's all marketing

 

was definitely a lot of fun--I did preorder it with 0 down.

 

Product presentations have an "Amazing Factor" that will draw people in and play on their urge to impulse purchase.

If you feel that situation happening, it's best to resolve yourself to not purchase, no matter the offer - especially if the offer is presented as only good until you leave.

You must resist this urge - "A fool and his money are soon parted..."

Try to find a way to borrow or rent the equipment to release the tension, but spending $1000+ on what is out now isn't a good use of $.

 

Yea but by then I'll be in college - much too late to shell out for a Vr system and there probably won't be any new better Vr headsets next year...
Cause it'll be at Least two years before people will feel the need to upgrade or can afford the hardware

 

Talking about Vr content:

@ryzeki Have you tried anything like

http://www.mtbs3d.com/start-here/welcome

Or

http://www.vorpx.com

Or

https://m.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/48ovt0/bleeding_edge_leap_motion_orion_vive_controllers/

 

Then it's a product to pass on the purchase.

You won't have time to enjoy it, use it, and earn back the investment in it.

There are other better ways to invest your college years and $ than wearing blinders indoors

 

Not necessarily-- look at Apple products and consoles -- they do not get cheaper u till they are too outdated or unusable

By hardware, i meant GPU power and ports (eg HDMI, USB, and display ports - cause manufacturers get lazy and don't update products)
How many desktop chassis exist with USB type c- practically none. And few have 5 or more USB 3.0 ports

 

Yes but I see there being a market for it at this point as it slowly develops into what we want it to be

From my experience it does have a ways to go but I probably want to be a part of it from the beginning ( think of it as an early adopter). It's not a fail product like the psvita (no offense Sony but the psp was much better).
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/what-can-i-do-with-my-psp.176812074/

 

You are getting off track here.

I am talking about the VR Standard of 970 desktop performance as the base minimum requirement for graphics power.

970 desktop GPU is too low of performance. It will result in minimally interesting games and usable only for current VR headsets, and won't be enough to grow into higher resolution hardware.

If the investment money keeps flowing in to VR unabated, the resulting constant improvements in Display and Headset implementations will rapidly grow minimum GPU performance requirements.

VR users will continually need to upgrade their VR hardware, at a much faster rate than PC gaming has gone recently - more like in the early days.

If we are really going to push through until near usefulness of VR this wave, we need to keep going and sustain constant improvements through growth for a good 3-5 years.

So far that's been too long to engage the average consumer, even the above average enthusiast, during any of the previous waves of VR introduction.

You have many other cool interests you have already expressed an interest in.

Unless you want to specialize in VR as a career, and are prepared for a constant investment level in VR hardware, it's not a good investment.

 

The PS Vita, and other portable gaming had a huge market until casual use switched to Smartphone usage.

Sony had a great product with the Vita, but introduced it into a market that was no longer there.

VR has never had a market, it's not established a repeatable growth pattern - a seasonal growth with constantly improving hardware and software - and has no library of games or even a single "killer app" that pushes sales.

there are plenty of things that *only* ever have a ground floor.

Thus far, after 40+ years, VR is on the Ground Floor, again.

 

Adfditional vr content:
http://www.mtbs3d.com/start-here/welcome

Or

http://www.vorpx.com

Or

https://m.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/48ovt0/bleeding_edge_leap_motion_orion_vive_controllers/


I preordered from a store so I can return in 30 days if I do not like it

 

Hi, im traveling to Japan in 2 weeks. Where can I buy the gt80 at Japan?

Thank you!

 

Ah, the rental method

"Microsoft reserves the right to deny any return if it fails to meet the return criteria and conditions."

 

If noone local to Japan responds, try MSI's "Where to Buy" assistant in English:
https://us.msi.com/service/wheretobuy/

 

Or, use the jp msi site, in Japanese:

https://jp.msi.com/service/wheretobuy/#68,3,

 

Hello everybody,

Sorry for my bad english.

A few weeks ago, I bought a GT80s with 6820HK and 980M SLI.
After some days, I noticed that the CPU abnormally heated in some benchmarks and games (+ 95 ° C).
The Intel XTU test gives 97°C with CPU multipliers x38 and undervolt 70mV.
So I returned my machine to the customer service.
Today I received an email from a technician who said :

Following the referral of your product to the customer service I want you to know that despite our good will, after several days of testing, failure related to temperature and Whine Coil has not been confirmed.
Your product as a product Gamer can work even 96-98 degrees in games and this is not a concern.

What do you think about this explanation ?

 

Tell them it's not acceptable to you, the 6820HK is reaching the thermal throttling limit of 93c, and reducing performance. It shouldn't be doing that under normal use.

Your criteria is for a laptop to not reach that thermal throttling limit under normal operation, it should stay in the full performance mode without thermal throttling.

Ask them to please carefully repaste the CPU and bring the maximum operating temperature under 90c to avoid thermal throttling in normal use.

Tell them if they can't do this, then please return your money or swap your unit for a new one.

I should mention at this point, that you should have returned the laptop for a refund or swapped for another unit immediately upon noticing the problem.

Most places have a 7-14 day, sometimes 30 day, return policy - now isn't the time to ask them if you don't know already - just ask for your $ back or a swap for another new unit.

If they say they need to send in the laptop to MSI because they don't repaste CPU's, then also ask for your $ back or swap your unit for another new one.

If they won't do any of this then you might be stuck, unless you are still under a return period, and then you can give the reason "not suitable to purposes" as the return reason, no further explanation required.

You may need to get your credit card company involved, if they won't accept a return from you. Make sure you point out that you asked them to fix it before the return period expired - it expired while in repair.

If you want to keep the laptop, and you have experience re-pasting laptop CPU's yourself, you could do it. But, I don't recommend this unless you have a solid experience - you could end up with a dead laptop and no service warranty to cover repair.

Good luck

 

Tell then you will not accept it at those temps and ask them to replace and repaste

 

I talked to them and they said if I can't get it to run on my system I can return within 30 days

 

Yea I'm having a similar problem with the accidental damage and what it "covers"

 

So, if it runs, you are gonna be stuck with it?

 

Xtu always raises the temps. Use hw info and firestrike on max fans to see ur temps

If they have the machine and you have a steam account see if you can buy firestrike and have them run it, give you the ambient temp, and send you a screenshot of the CPU temps and the computer running it.

I would recommend buying it on g2a or somewhere where you can get it cheap

 

Maybe you haven't used alt codes or special characters, but I do,, and daily. It has made a couple MMO games impossible to communicate with other players because I would say over 50% of players use alt codes in the characters names.

I can't type their name in to communicate and I'm unable to send in game items to my own characters because I cannot type their name out. I just find it a ridiculous oversight for a machine at this price point.

MSI has no Titan-002 that is running in the RMA department to test it out on at this point in time .. I was told I would get an email whenever they find more information on the issue. I'm not holding my breath.

 

Thank you for your answers.

I bought this used machine on a serious forum, I have no doubt about the honesty of the seller who did only some benchmarks without checking the temperatures.

I have therefore not returned the machine to the dealer but directly to the MSI customer service.
So the answer of the technician comes directly from the MSI customer service.

I have already responded to his email to tell him that his analysis was unacceptable in my opinion and I asked him to repeat the tests.
I also told him about the CPU throttle from a certain temperature and that I did not buy this machine to use it with reduced performances.
Also, if temperatures reach 98° C in spring, how much they will go up in the summer ??
I do not understand why they do not even talk about a repaste. Seriously, should I teach them their job ???
And I do not talk about the extreme coil whine on my machine, they said they had not noticed any problem with this...

Foolish and disrespectful for the customer.