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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

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    then add ur ssd's in and ram in and its $7k
    thankfully i already have both in my current gt80s and can just transfer them over :)
     
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    nope but i have an everki titan backpack for my laptop and its great!
     
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    Didn't you hear? The new new Kaby lake Series 200 will have Intel’s 3D XPoint memory architecture, for storage; all new parts :)

    Intel Kaby Lake Desktop Processor Family Roadmap Leaked – On Track For Q4 ’16 Launch, 200-Series Chipset To Support Optane Technology
    http://wccftech.com/intel-kaby-lake-desktop-roadmap-leak/

    Intel-Optane-SSD-Roadmap-2016-2017-3D-XPoint-Memory.jpg
    " Intel Optane Storage and Memory solution roadmap. (Image Credits: Benchlife)

    The KBL-PCH will be able to support Mansion Beach (Optane SSD PCIe/NVMe Gen3 x4), Brighton Beach (Optane SSD PCIe/NVMe Gen3 x4) and Stony Beach (Optane Memory PCIe/NVMe Gen 3 x2 (m.2)) solutions. We covered this topic in more detail over here."
     
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    Gonna be even more expensive than the pcie drives since they have only marginally decreased in price
     
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    It's supposed to be higher density, so it might cost less per GB, while a larger size and unit price.

    There will be some benefit that we can't live without :)
     
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    But it will still be pcie compatible right?
     
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    IDK, there is conflicting information.

    I don't know if they can deliver the speeds claimed using the existing PCIE x4 interfaces.

    And, then they mention PCIE x2 gen3... which should be slower than PCIE x4 gen3...

    It may just be a lack of solid info that is causing this, but only time will tell.
     
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    Dang my battery is like only half of what it was... Only on one GPU too...

    Any suggestions?

    Should I take the laptop into frys to have it replaced with a new one at some pt?
     
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    Hey everyone,

    Signed up just to ask this. Can all the MSI GT 80/80S owners provide a picture of their monitors in a pitch black setting to show the light bleed on these or perhaps comment on their light bleed? Pictures are more helpful with it

    I already own it and have light bleeds, and curious as to others light bleed situation. Mine only shows in pitch black screens or game loading screens. It's driving me mad after having it RMAd 3 times already.

    Wondering how common this is with these ones.

    Thanks

    Michael
     
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    I sold my GT80, so I can't take a photo, but I can confirm the standard IPS glow with small amount of extra glow on the bottom right.

    I have been using IPS monitors for many years, and every single one of them has IPS glow / bleed, some a little worse than others.

    But, all of them are unnoticeable in normal use. Even when watching videos with black bars it's rare for the bleed through glow to become noticeable enough to intrude on the moment. I also use all dark / black themes in apps and a dark / space theme, so I would notice any bleed through during normal use.

    If you have already RMA'd 3 times, I would sell it and give up at this point, as you can't get over it and it will continue to bug you. Historically someone that posts what you are posting, can't get over the bleed through, and they mention it constantly until they get rid of the laptop.

    Maybe get a nice TN or VA panel, or an OLED - they don't use a backlight.

    As a suggestion to you to improve response to your requests. When you ask people to go through the trouble of taking a photo and posting it for you, you should at least do the same - as an example of what you are looking for from them, and as evidence of the unacceptable state of your example.

    Going through the trouble of taking the photo and posting it yourself will get more responses for you.
     
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    Hi Scott,

    Naturally I don't mean IPS glow. I mean backlight bleed. It really is that obvious. And again, not asking everyone for a photo. Just the actual facts of their monitor.
     
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    We don't know that unless you post the photo's of the 4 screens you are rejecting.

    Everyone has a different tolerance level :)
     
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    Why must I post photos of all 4 screens? I'm asking everyone not on their subjective analysis of backlight bleed...but what the backlight bleed actually is / if they even have it and where they have it. Are you trying to say some people would consider some types backlight bleed NO backlight bleed?

    I'm not asking anyone whether or not they have backlight bleed they're tolerating. I'm asking factual information on who has it and what sort / where.
     
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    It's equivalent to me asking who has a dent on their car/where and you're coming back with "Post photos of your dents" How is that even necessary?
     
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    But I'll entertain you with my current situation. I'm not posting the other 3.
     
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    Because it's logical for you to take the time to make a photo and post it, so we can see the problem you are speaking of. It's just common sense, why would you think it isn't a requirement of asking for help?

    You would be surprised at the exclamation filled posts complaining about light bleed, and when they finally upload a photo, it's nothing - literally - not even bad glow, just a sense of light coming from one edge or another.

    Rather than everyone on the thread going through the trouble of posting their dark screen image, you need to do it first so they know whether it is worth the time for them to do so as well.

    Didn't you take photo's of the screen bleed to give to MSI support so you could point out the problem? MSI should have required that before accepting the RMA return.

    MSI can also use the photo to compare the new screen install, or the bracket / hold point pinching to alleviate your complaint.

    Pretty standard, show the problem, explain why it doesn't work for you, and ask for a specific fix from them.

    Let's see what it looks like on the current screen. Is it worse than the last 3, in what way(s)?
     
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    Yeah, as I thought, standard background glow, with a little light around specific edges.

    Your's looks just like mine did. There is nothing wrong with it :)

    Were any of the other 3 worse? Please post the worst one.
     
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    Because dents are definite damage, IPS screen glow is subjective - and specific characteristics are common to a laptop model - the screen attachments which cause pinching are the same.

    Your screen looks just like mine did, as it's the characteristic of the manufacturing of the screen and attachment in the frame.

    All IPS screens have some additional light around some edges, it's part of the mechanical attachment of the screen in the frame. Some you can fix, some you can't, and some - like the GT80 - aren't bad enough to worry about - and they are consistent in their nature.
     
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    You'd be surprised how ridiculous some people are. I am not one of those people that makes up the problem in my head.

    Here is the image as it is now

    [​IMG]

    The worst of it is the top and bottom.

    Bottom I don't notice so much believe it or not. The top one is pretty obvious to me. Right ones I don't mind either.
     
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    IPS glow is subjective. Backlight bleed I don't believe entirely is.
     
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    So what you're saying is anyone paying $4,000 for this laptop should expect light bleeding to the level I have it or light bleeding in general?

    Did you see my picture??? That's not a lot of backlight bleed to you? Would you be happy paying $4,000 for my laptop?
     
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    Sure, take it back to Fry's see what they say :rolleyes:

    Since you didn't buy it from Fry's they might balk at giving you tech support :confused: :p :D

    Contact XoticPC, they sold it to you, and see if they will service the accidental damage for you to - from your Robot accident... seriously get that fixed.

    If your battery is failing due to a leak caused by that Robot collision physical damage you might be in physical danger yourself - get that RMA'd, now!!

    badrobot.png
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    Yes, that's what I am saying, that's what it looks like.

    Maybe now that you have posted a photo, someone else will post one of their screen and you can compare.

    I don't have a photo handy, maybe I can dig one out later, but it will show about the same as your's does.

    It's also up to the sensitivity of the camera to low light, some exaggerate the glow more than is visible to the naked eye, some less.

    Sorry, but that's what you get :)

    Didn't getting 4 screens all looking about the same give you an idea that's how it is supposed to be on the GT80, and most other laptops I have seen.

    Were any of the other screens exceptionally worse, or were they all the same?
     
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    Well I don't have photos of the other 3 sadly. But yes what happened was there were way more light spots in those...we're talking striations all across the bottom. Definitely not normal. I can expect corner glows...but the top left one is the most annoying.. Then again when they're at the bottom, they're equally worse if not more so because its closer to the center of the screen where the action is. The one on the top left is further from the center....

    Also I adjusted the image in post as best as I could to resemble what it actually looks like in a dark room. What you're seeing is close to what I'm seeing (unless your monitor isn't calibrated).

    It's the best one I've gotten. The other ones had light bleeding (1 was worse with striations) and the other 2 were roughly the same as my current one but 1 had dead pixels so it had to go back. The 2nd one had light bleed at the bottom near the middle. I definitely did not like it. I would choose top sort-of-left light bleed than bottom and closer to the middle. This one has a bit to the bottom and middle..but they are not noticeable to me at all during black scenes. It's ironically the top-left faint one that is. Because it is a bit "bulkier" in its glow area.
     
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    FYI the picture was taken at 100% brightness on the laptop. When I lower the brightness, less noticeable naturally. Top-left one still sticks out to me..but I'm guessing that's my OCD increasing my sensitivity KNOWING its there....so it is in my head partly at that point
     
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    I found over time - within the first 2 weeks - that 70% was a more comfortable level of brightness - try setting it to 70% as well, and check the light-bleed / glow again.

    Also, see if uninstalling Asus Splendid improves - everything - as it mucks with colors and brightness as well. I always uninstall it, but pull the calibration file out of the zip file and install that in the system color calibration.

    It's good to hear you consider this one the best so far, as it is pretty much exactly what mine looked like, and I was happy with it. :D
     
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    In actual function - it's not noticeable AT ALL at 100% or 70%. Nothing is. Pitch black screens..game loading black screens only. The 1 with striations and the other one with light bleeds at the bottom were noticeable during daylight..that's how bad they were...almost like flashlights emerging from the screen in a way..

    Yeah I mean I am happy with it but definitely would love to see other people's screens to add more comfort to this. I realize I'm fortunate to be able to buy this laptop and I'd hate to be one of those people that demands excellence and assumes people (repair people, etc) aren't human beings and work them hardcore over this. I know the technology is prone to backlight bleeds as you mentioned not to account even for the errors in manufacturing which does mean not every LCD pixel is perfectly opaque. I don't think there's a "perfect" LCD out there in terms of this. Just the nature of its manufacturing as you mentioned.
     
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    I recently purchased an ASUS PG348Q monitor and it has the same deal. So it's not just MSI

    [​IMG]
     
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    Occasionally you get the "golden" example of an IPS screen. I have had a few over time, but I know that they are the exception :cool:

    There are so many things that can be off in a complex piece of technology like a high end SLI laptop, you have to balance the good with the not-as-good and make peace with it.

    If the laptop is not thermal throttling at stock, allows for a nice OC on the CPU / GPU - 10-20% - the screen doesn't have any stuck on/off pixels, there are no egregious cosmetic defects and it's not causing a failure in any perceivable way, I can put up with a few touches of humanities failings in the product :D

    It sounds like you have a good one :)

    Have you OC'd the GPU(s)/CPU yet, or undervolted yet?

    Did you do know you can OC the screen up to around 100hz? :)
     
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    Bad quality picture.. post another one further away from the laptop and I could compare.
     
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    Yup, that's about right, it's actually a nice feature... you know it's on even when there is no image to display :confused: :eek: :oops: :rolleyes: o_O :cool:
     
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    Bad quality? It shows the bleed from a distance it matters most. Up close. Not 20ft away. Post a picture of yours at the distance you're asking and I can post mine for comparison if you want to be really technically accurate about this
     
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    Hello guys, my 1TB disk (hdd) is becoming small, i just see the samsung/seagate solution with 2TB. How it is? Any other solution? Thanks in adv!

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    Is the laptop dented in any manner? That can cause screen warping along the edges at the top
     
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    It's slow degradation...
     
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    U do realize shipping ur laptop over and over again is not good for it. You have delivery people throwing packages all over the place
     
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    Finaly got my Laptop ! God Damn ! Its amazing ! :D !!

    there is one thing making me sad thou , it did not come with the palmrest :/ ! it only had a wierd ass mouse in the box , no palmrest , no keychain , just mouse and the bag in the bigger brown box.

    Is there any where i can buy the palmrest ?
     
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    Depending on your resller, You should have gotten a palm rest..
     
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    Can you show the level of backlight bleed on yours?
     
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    No. Laptop is not dented in any manner whatsoever
     
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    If you have lost 1/2 your battery capacity since you got your laptop, it's only been 6 months, that's way too much loss.

    You should get it looked at for physical damage asap.

    If that battery is leaking internally it can cause a fire, explosion, or damage other components in the laptop.

    You need to tell your parents about the battery capacity loss, and urge them to send the laptop in for RMA now.

    You have your Razer back working, and school is out, now is the time to RMA the GT80S :)
     
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    Congratulations on your new GT80 :)

    I have seen some of the MSI Dragon Collection items up on ebay from time to time, and some stores sell the MSI Mouse Pad, but I haven't seen the MSI Keyboard Wrist Rest for sale anywhere.

    MSI Dragon Collection
    https://www.msi.com/collections/pages/MSI-Keyboard-Wrist-Rest.html

    Maybe someone will read your post and offer to sell you their's :)
     
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    Usually the palm rest should have come with the model. You could try asking where you purchased the computer from if they can get one for you.
     
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    Any suggestion for a bigger hdd of 2tb?


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    prob. cause i leave it plugged in or drain it a whole lot when im on the go
     
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    raid 2x 1 tb ssd's
     
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    Nope, under normal use, lots of use, that battery should have lasted for years before showing that kind of degradation of capacity.
     
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    Not internal, but external there are lots of choices.

    The cavity that holds the 2.5" drive is shallow, you can't get a wide range of choices to fit in there.

    Best to use 2.5" SSD's, affordable 4TB's+ are coming that should fit in that 2.5" slot.

    I would fill up the M.2 slots with 1TB SATA SSD's, and those are available now.
     
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    my battery life has always been quite bad... could just be more background processes running...

    i cant switch to integrated :(

    hopefully they fix this in the 83 or add a bigger battery
     
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    The GT80 isn't really made for mobile use, you know that right? :)

    The GT80 is a desktop replacement machine, that's designed to be portable. Like moving from one desk to another, one AC plug to another.

    The small battery in such a power hungry machine should be enough of a clue.

    The GT80's are not designed to run on that battery for more than a short time - time enough to read email, find stuff on a website, check in to work from the field, and then power down.

    If your actual runtime has dropped in half, under the same use, then your battery has a problem.

    If you are just using more power and the battery isn't lasting as long, then why even post anything about that?
     
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