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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

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    How many M.2 drives, and what kind(s) do you have. You have 3 slots, 2 that will run PCIE and 1 SATA, I would fill those up first.

    The M.2 SATA X400 1TB is also inexpensive:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2W03S86082

    I think I heard that the GT80 won't RAID in the 2.5" SSD even if it is the same model, but you could try a 2.5" X400 1TB with the M.2 X400 1TB as best storage expansion, and when you have them installed see if they show up in the BIOS RAID configuration to build a RAID0 :)
     
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    which of the two drives is better though?
     
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    Between the X400's? M.2 and 2.5"??

    Probably pretty close to the same performance. Not worth worrying about splitting hairs over.

    If you still have the M.2 slot(s) free, use those first.

    A cheap 2.5" 2TB or larger option could become available. Likely available before a 2TB or larger M.2 SSD.
     
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    between the x400 and ultra
     
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    Dupe please delete.
     
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    How do I reset the bios again? It's not turning off properly......
     
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    The GT80S have a reset button you access through a hole in the bottom, besides the "holding the power button down for 30 seconds" reset.

    I would try the Power button reset first, then do the reset button method (also 30 seconds).

    It should be listed in your manual, check that as well, there may be other steps, like power off using power button, unplug PSU, unplug battery, etc.

    You could also pull the CMOS battery for a couple of minutes to clear the CMOS. There is supposed to be a connector/wire you can pull under the top access panel in the GT80S to interrupt the CMOS battery - instead of physically pulling it out - consult your manual.
     
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    i believe samsung are fast, sandisk in general a bit less... but quality is a big word when we talk in general about samsung
     
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    The Sandisks are as fast as the SATA III interface allows, you can't get any faster :)

    And, what did you mean "quality is a big word when we talk in general about samsung"? Does that mean Samsung quality is good, or bad? o_O

    Sandisk has the highest ratings for reliability and support across their whole product line.

    Between the 2 I would go for best price and best sale price, either one should be aok in the GT80.

    I think there have already been reports of GT80 owners installing the X400 1TB in their laptops... I don't have a link to their posts handy.
     
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    I meant Samsung quality is not the best...

    Inviato dal mio ALE-L21 utilizzando Tapatalk
     
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    That's what I thought, but I didn't want to read a negative into a neutral statement.

    Also, Samsung doesn't have a 1TB M.2 SATA model yet, so you can only get the Sandisk X400 as an M.2 SATA, or as a 2.5" SATA.

    @mason2smart the X400 1TB M.2 is the only Sandisk M.2 model, and I wouldn't bother getting a previous generation 2.5" either, stick with the same generation in your laptop, get a X400 for the 2.5" too.
     
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    It's not in the manual...

    Bioshock inf. Freeze and crashed last night... Usually black screens after freezing but this time it just stayed on the screen then came back up with a black screen. It is also black screening almost every time I go to shut it down...

    https://1drv.ms/v/s!AuMOrXc4ORHpltF5gCtHmfLDNUuD5w
     
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    Hmmm, probably time to file a ticket with MSI for an RMA.
     
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    New software for gt80 called vr optimized
     

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    @MSI Myco @MSIGeno

    Help!!!
     
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    I got that one. XOTIC swapped it for me for a faulty 2.5" 1GB HDD. Course i had to pay up the difference but so far no complaints. Performs like a champ and I used my old 750GB HDD to fill the 2.5" gap. ;)
    sandisk crystalmark.jpg
     
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    The CMOS battery connector is bellow the M.2 (SATA) drive. I don't think (but I might be wrong) that the reset button actually resets the bios. I believe you have to pull the CMOS battery and THEN push the reset button, which IMHO interrupts the main battery so you don't have to disconnect that one which is a major PITA with this laptop, that way both power sources are disconnected so the CMOS memory can be reset to default values.
    With regular laptop with removable battery it's easier. You just remove the main battery and then disconnect the CMOS to reset bios. With non-removable battery it's a little bit more complicated. Thank MSI engineers to include the reset hole. :)
     
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    How do I pull the come battery?


    Anyone else have any issues like those depicted in the video?
     
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    Under your M.2 sata stick is a twisted black and red wire plugged into the motherboard. CAREFULLY!!! unplug it, then insert a paperclip or tiny screwdriver into the reset hole and push a little until you hear/feel tiny click. Hold it like that for 30 secs, then release. Plug back the CMOS wire, plug the AC back in, turn on the laptop. BIOS is reset to default.
    Just a side note, one time, when I did that, I pulled out and plugged back in all the drives and RAM. After I started back in, I had to re-activate Windows. Don't panic. You can do it over the phone in 5 minutes.

    To be sure something won't screw up the default config right after you first time start the computer, you should uninstall Dragon whatever center and XTU BEFORE you do the reset. Setting them utils to default didn't help me, seems like they like to remain in "confused" state. After you boot up, you can re-install them again and try to be little bit more conservative with tweaking. After initial crazy overclocking and benchmarking I run my laptop now at default frequencies @x37 multiplier. Solid as rock and absolutely no complaints about speed. YMMV
     
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    Yes, a few times. When I was still trying to squeeze all the goodies out the CPU/GPU(s).
    Since I'm running it at stock, not even once.
     
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    What's ur cpu temp under heavy load 30 seconds into a game/ light load chrome 20 tabs
     
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    Light load ~50-55C also depends on ambient temp. Heavy load? It varies. I just turned on Witcher 3 for 2 minutes just for you and max CPU temp was 91C. GPU 66C and 75C. Fans on auto.

    I experienced as high as 96C CPU temps with Witcher 3. No glitches or slowdowns due to throttling. Fans always on auto.
    I know these temps aren't exactly healthy for CPU but it's under warranty so I don't really care. ;)
     
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    When I got home last night, I opened up my year old GT80 to find it booting into BIOS. Uh Oh. I determined that I lost one of my SSDs. I have read that I could boot into the recovery utility off of my 1 TB hdd by pressing F3 when the MSI logo show up on the screen, however, it just keeps going back into the BIOS. Boned.

    Here is my dilemma; I seem to have misplaced any type of recovery DVD I created when I first got the laptop. I have no issues replacing the SSD myself and starting with a fresh install, but I don't have any bootable media and I can't seem to located any on the MSI site. Does anyone know where/if a download from MSI exists?

    I put in a support request with MSI and got a RMA, but the lead time is 10 business days and I am about to go on a work trip.
     
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    If you got the GT80 from MSI, as a MSI retail product, it came with a recovery partition + the BurnRecover Utility to create a bootable USB 3.0 32GB restore - you need to provide the USB 3.0 32GB drive.

    If your MSI GT80 came this way you would have been pestered by MSI Reminder when you first booted up to create the BurnRecovery a bootable USB 3.0 32GB recovery drive.

    If you got the GT80 from a boutique vendor, they were responsible for providing you a recovery media - either included or as an option. If you didn't buy it / get it, you don't have any recovery option.

    In that case you could have used Macrium Reflect to create a recovery USB drive that you could use to boot on and restore a Macrium Reflect image you took of the boot drive.

    The only other choice if you don't have any recovery media, is to do a MS Windows 8.1/10 install from the USB flash installer created by MS's utility - which downloads the installation media and creates the boot flash drive - 8GB required.

    Then you need to hunt down all the drivers, apps, and configurations - not are all downloadable from MSI - and try to piece together a running system.

    If your seller is still in business, you can contact them and buy recovery media - have them ship it Fedex Next day to get it before your trip.

    If you do end up RMA'ing be sure and ask MSI to install the original OS image for your GT80 - hopefully Windows 8.1 - if you don't ask they will install what is current from them, likely Windows 10.

    When you get the MSI restore back, if you have Windows 8/8.1 be sure and use BurnRecovery to create the USB 3.0 32GB flash recovery boot drive :cool:
     
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    Why not ask for a usb drive w/ backup image
     
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    Ask who? :)

    In your case XoticPC, they should have a recovery option for both USB and DVD - it's a paid option at build time.

    If you bought a MSI retail package MSI does't provide a USB recovery drive, you need to provide the USB 3.0 32GB flash drive yourself, the use BurnRecovery to create the recovery data on the flash drive, making it bootable.

    Historically MSI won't send recovery media free, or even sell it to you, MSI want the laptop in house to check it out and do the restore themselves.
     
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    Awesome answer! Thank you for the info. I did buy it from Xotic, so maybe they can help out.
     
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    Eeh, don't bother. Download Windows from MS and do a clean install. All the drivers are either on MSI website (international - US doesn't have anything you need) or on the particular component manufacturer web. I downloaded always latest: intel for chipset and raid, then nvidia, Nahimic, killer, I bet I forgopt something but you can use msi driver pqage as reference. It also tells you in what order you should install them.
    Or... you should've gotten a drivers and utils dvd with "one touch install" from xotic. In that case, just install windows and insert dvd. Easy. ;)
     
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    I looked through the box that the laptop came in and the only disk in there looks like it has some utility. It is definitely not bootable. I guess I am on the hook to by a copy of windows 10 ;)

    Thank you for the info.
     
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    IDK why, but people seem to not realize they got a warranty for 2 years for their laptop through their builder - they will help streamline and speed up RMA's and will work with MSI if they can't fix a problem themselves.

    We all pay for the warranty, we shouldn't be shy about using it :)

    Your laptop still has the Windows license key in the BIOS, so you don't need to buy a Windows license, unless you want to install a different version, just download the installer software from MS, and it will download and create a bootable USB 3.0 drive you can use to install Windows.
     
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    The warranty is great. I just don't have the time for an RMA at the moment. I had NO clue that the windows license was listed in the BIOS. That is awesome news. Thanks for that tidbit of info!
     
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    Rather than posting in a forum, you can send email to your seller posing your problem and ask them for help.

    They would have given you similar answers, and might have even shipped out the recovery media to you already :)

    Same for MSI. If you haven't registered your laptop, do it now, and then you can file an online form to ask questions, ask for help, or if you already have debugged the problem and know your laptop needs to be sent in for physical repair - ask for an RMA.

    Forums like this are great for lots of things, but we won't always be available to immediately answer your questions.

    You paid Xotic / MSI to do that for you already :)
     
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    No, the driver dvd isn't bootable. It's just a disk with drivers and utilities. You need to download a copy of windows and install. No registration or activation necessary as @hmscott said. The windows serial number is embedded in CMOS.

    What surprised me was, that after a clean install and NOT using the MSI disk, I had XOTIC PC wallpapers back somehow. I'm guessing they are stored on MS servers (OneDrive??) and you'll get them downloaded automatically after you login with your ms passport. (?)
     
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    Does the disk sound like a lawn mower when u read it?
     
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    That stuff Syncs with microsoft
     
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    As mentioned, if Windows 10 was activated on it before, you should be able to install the same version and activate no problem. Just download the ISO from Micro$loth.

    If it doesn't for some reason, don't pay a lot for Windows. I have purchased multiple copies of Windows 7 Pro, Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows 10 Pro here and all work great, no activation issues whatsoever.

    https://www.kinguin.net/category/13816/windows-7-professional-oem-key-sp1/

    https://www.kinguin.net/category/13653/windows-8-1-professional-oem-key/

    https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/
     
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    The Ghost image of Windows installs past....Spoooky :)

    Thank Microsoft for copying from our local storage for safe keeping :eek: :oops: o_O :p :D
     
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    When you finally RMA ask XoticPC / MSI to swap in a new one for you. Make a little mark on the metal top of the optical drive casing so you know for sure when you get it back that they replaced it. Or, if you can find the serial number on the drive, write it down.
     
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    Don't insult Microsoft on Windows 10 anniversary
     
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    Or hopefully replace the laptop
     
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    No need for us to do that anyway, MS is insulting itself and us on August 2nd.

    More forced advertising creeps into Windows 10 Pro
    Starting Aug. 2, admins will not be able to keep Microsoft from pushing the likes of Candy Crush Soda Saga onto Win10 Pro PCs on their networks because certain Group Policies will be deactivated
    http://www.infoworld.com/article/31...d-advertising-creeps-into-windows-10-pro.html

    "If you were wondering whether Microsoft could inflict even more damage to Windows' reputation, the answer is yes."

    The hope's and dream's of controlling your PC against MS's wish'es is at an end August 2nd.
     
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    You really need to divest yourself of the idea that you can sell the laptop as is.

    Your MSI warranty isn't transferable. So you need to get it fixed before you sell it, or the buyer is gonna be stuck without a way to get it fixed, except through you.

    It's either going to get fixed now in your control, or someone is going to sue you in small claims court and force you to fix it after the fact.

    Don't mess around, get it fixed.
     
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    With a sharpie or a knife?
     
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    I was thinking more of an indelible / permanent marker, use your initials for example or, "I Love MSI" might be fun :D
     
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    Or "please replace this faulty component"
     
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    You might get it back, signed "NFF" - No Fault Found.

    It's better to spread the Love :cool:
     
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    Someone who was having similar issues sent his on and cyber power replaced his ram saying that fixed the blackscreening

    What's the likelihood that it's a ram problem?
     
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    IMO, not likely at all. Most ram issues are sudden shutdown or bluescreens. The error will usually show up in the event viewer and will link to it being memory related.
     
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