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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

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    When I play movies there's some evident on-screen glitching....when connected to an alternate screen.
     
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    Sounds like driver/codec issue. Only happens when using external screens?
     
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    Have you tried K-Lite Mega codec and Media Player Classic included?
     
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    No... I was using pot player because windows media player can't do audio on mkv's but both crash a lot and get laggy.

    Another issue I'm having that may be connected is Lightroom keeps telling me I do not have d2d installed
     
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    What do you guys use for playing movies?

    What do you guys use for playing blu Rays?
     
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    I play blurays on other devices, not on my machine. On older devices, I had a paid version for powerDVD, not the one included usually.

    I also use old style media player classic with CCCP codecs.
     
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    Nice, and hopefully it will work in the GT73 SLI 1070 too, as you suggest.

    Even better is if it will work with the previous generation GT80S 980 SLI :cool:

    Even though it might all plug in together, there will need to be supporting firmware to allow more power in to the laptop.
     
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    Looks like they really want to surpass the clevo this round. Nice!

    But also keep this in mine.....The P570WM3 was able to pull 813W with an average of 730W to 760W. Using 2 980M's and a 4960X or 1680V2. Causing the machine to need more than 2 adapters.... So this should be interesting indeed.
     
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    Is power dvd any good?
     
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    Agreed. Now, I wonder if they will update BIOS with support for previous titans ;)

    Yup, I've seen those results too, though I am 100% certain that for the general public, the GPUs will be locked to a certain TDP anyways, just like 980m and 980 were. I have no doubt that once unlocking, we can surpass the 660w easily. Those components can quickly become inefficient with small tweaks haha :)

    I will be happy if I can install GT83's cooling solution and update BIOS/EC to use the dual PSU adapter. My CPU will be the weakest link but also the least consuming part. I haven't been able to overclock it, but at least power limit is no concern.

    I only had it because I had 3d blurays I wanted to watch. Otherwise I never used it. It worked for what I needed it.
     
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    Yes, they all come locked down. That is a mandatory specification set by the Nvidia & AMD. That's why they keep pushing that boost on us...

    Only time will tell, but looks very promising for a change.

    And the Adapter would bring new life to old machines, that's for sure. (My biggest gripe when this machine first came out.) Also... If you were to unlock your 980M's, it would become a new machine to you once again. So there is always that. :)
     
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    is there any chance that this dual psu adapter will work with the GT80S? Please, please please! They have to unlock this power in the bios, they have to!
     
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    PowerDVD, Media Player Classic Homecinema, VLC.

    I'm using PowerDVD since version 1 ;) Didn't find anything better yet.
     
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    Can it play files
     
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    Yes, all 3 software can play files.
     
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    My 980m are unlocked, I just can't run them OC because it kills off the PSU hahahaha :) I can only use very very mild OC and I also drain my battery life this way :)

    At any rate, dual PSU indeed will be a great welcomed addition. Now I want to know about support for new GPUs. I don't want the new upgrade kits for our old machines to be 1060s, I want to see full 1080 (wishful maybe) or at least 1070s.

    I say there is a good chance for it. GT8X should be fundamentally the same, now with more power available. It will of course require some firmware update but it should work.
     
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    Then you should almost be able to cut off your PSU with one maxed out card...Roughly 440W Or come pretty close to that. Have you tried this yet? Using 3dmark11 test 1 will max out the gpu and cpu for most watts. You would need a killawatt meter to gauge how much you are pulling. Along with hwinfo running. That will show the watts for cpu and gpu through os, while a ups battery backup gives very accurate numbers on watts used from the wall.
     
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    I haven't measured yet. A single stock unlocked 980m with the CPu will consume around 440W? I do have a killawatt. I might check this out. Is it a standard 3dmark11 test or do I need the paid version?
     
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    In my machine, yes. In some cases closer to 500W. So i can in fact shut down a 330W PSU.
    Trying to understand if you can get past 330W and just how high you can go.

    As to test, you can run the full version and stop it after test one if you like or let it complete and we can see how you fair against other single 980M setups.
    This was the same approach we used with Alienware to try and get them to understand why the need for dual PSU setups for certain high end machine. And as you can see...it didn't really turn out well over there. :D
     
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    Yikes, then I am scared hahaha, I will check and let you know :)
     
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    Thanks! Because i'm curious and don't have a system of my own to find out. :)
     
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    whats the point comparing a lesser efficient cpu gen with a newer generation thats only 4core and soldered BGA lol.
     
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    Ok, you lost me. I don't think i'm understanding the question?
     
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    no problemo!

    if ONLY a desktop cpu would be in this laptop...
     
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    Ah, got it.

    Yep, if only...
     
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    Depends on practicality, since mobile CPU is already sufficient enough to drive any games thrown at it, because the majority of games are likely to be limited by the GPU anyway.
     
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    you mistake me for a gamer. I'm not. I'm a bencher. I bench parts that win over all scores. Don't care if it's bga or socketed as long as it wins. I may crack jokes about bga, but I still stay firm. I will bench it with no discrimination, but only if i can win with it. Sorry, but that gt80 could not beat my Old P570WM3 over all scores so their was no need to buy a new machine. So now the new machines are coming out and I will see if it is in fact time to make the switch. So once a few members get some in their hands and beta test it. At that point i'll make a judgment call on a purchase or to wait longer. And since the new Titan X's just hit the market, this machine purchase may wait a bit longer. :D
     
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    Gotcha, P570WM3 is an old beast. :)
     
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    I feel like I have put here my adjusted my opinion on that Sabre Extreme sound + Nahimic which I hated previously.
    I don't know if that was just some kind of misconfiguration or a bad software or driver install but it plays absolutely amazing now.
    Before, the music coming out of it was totally atrocious as it sounded like some kind of voice cancelling was on and I couldn't turn it off no matter what. I'm not sure what fixed it (probably a clean Win10 install), but now it's phenomenal! Much, much better than regular sound output and much better than even my Note 5, which I considered a best device for headphone music listening I own.
     
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    Glad that it's finally working out for you. Btw, very nice DSLR and lens setup you've got there. :)
     
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    This is true....

    And it looks like the Clevo is going to go full out. 6700K/1080 SLI and 1070 SLI.
     
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    Does the 1080 SLI require / come with a 2x 330w power supply configuration?

    Any info on if Clevo replaced their 2x 330w power solution with an updated one?
     
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    can u screenshot ur settings in the software?
     
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    article said right now they are using dual psu but may come out with a bigger psu...
    Maybe they will come out with a dock for it or something that has a built in psu?
     
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    Are you thinking of the MSI GT83 article, or another Clevo article? I was talking about Clevo - as @johnkss was discussing with @Kevin@GenTechPC
     
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    I've had the same experience with Nahimic + the normal audio out, it's weird, sometimes Nahimic seems like it is doing nothing, then next boot it's working great - and stays that way.

    Glad to hear you got the Sabre working well, it should be an awesome amp :)
     
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    Don't know yet. I just jumped on that bandwagon so i'm still finding things out. Although I already have 3 adapters and 4 PSU's
     
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    full out when it comes with 6-8c or more. i guess you're more of a GPU bencher than CPU and storage.
     
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    It looks like the manual has the details, couldn't download it earlier, but worked first try this time, here is the answer from @ssj92

    I added the (required) as that was pointed out in other posts.

    I didn't even think of the 1070 SLI requirement needing more than a single 330w, but I guess that makes sense with the 6700k using 95w too.

    I wonder what the MSI 1070 SLI will need?
     
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    If MSI 980 SLI can be done with a single 330w adapter, I don't see why 1070 SLI can't be done the same way.
     
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    That's what I was thinking too :)

    It's the extra power draw from the 6700K that bumps up the power requirement past 330w, and for the Clevo that means 2 x 240w PSU's, adapter box, and spider web of cabling.

    MSI hinted in that article they were working on a larger PSU solution, and the 2x PSU power adapter was a temporary solution.

    Here is the page from the new P870 Pascal model, quite serious about requiring 2x PSU operation at all times:

    " The Power Sources

    The computer can be powered by either the 2 AC/DC adapters and power converter supplied, or by a battery pack.

    AC/DC Adapters and Power Converter

    Use only the AC/DC adapters and converter that come with your computer. The
    wrong type of AC/DC adapter will damage the computer and its components.

    1. You must use the power converter supplied with the dual AC/DC
    adapters connected to power this computer. Do not use a single AC/DC adapter to power the system.


    2. Attach the power converter to the DC-In jack at the rear of the computer then plug AC/DC adapters into the jacks at the rear of the converter. Plug the AC power cords into an outlet, and connect the AC power cords to the AC/DC adapters"
     
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    I wonder if it will be available to switch dual 970m to single 1070 or 1080. My one 970m died due to my fault so I'm kind of stuck with single. I feel that I don't need more than 1 gpu because I play games only @ 1080p.
    Kind of tired of sli setup when not every game/program fully supports sli config and that micro stuttering in some games is annoying.
    Also I don't think that i7-4720hq has enough juice for dual 1070/1080
     
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    MSI's response in the past has been "no" to switching from single to SLI, and I assume the same the other way around.

    They will make these upgrade kits as a set, Left/Right, with all the hardware to replace the cooling and MXM cards, along with new power as well.

    I don't think MSI will split a kit to upgrade a single GPU.

    Besides if you look at the hardware between the GPU's/CPU it's all interconnected, so at the least you would need to install all the cooling hardware for both GPU's as a set.

    How did you kill your 2nd 970m? Send it in for RMA, and ask MSI to fix, as long as you don't have "hatchet" marks on it, MSI will likely fix it.

    2x970m would be a nice enough upgrade on it's own :confused: :eek: :cool:
     
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    It happened like 5 months ago. I was cleaning my laptop and replacing thermal paste with conductonaut.
    Everything was fine and I was following instructions. Small grain (size of salt grain) of thermal paste on both heatsink and gpu then evenly spread it.
    Everything was fine with first gpu and cpu but when i was mounting heatsink on second gpu, landlord came to my house and we we're talking for a while. After he left I came back to the laptop to finish mounting of the heatsink (I had left it unscrewed). I
    I've slided heatsink under the frame and aligned holes. Screwed back screws and finished mounted backplate. Turned on laptop and went to check temps. Cpu ~38 °C GPU1 ~ 36°C GPU2 ????.
    Loaded Witcher 3 and played for like 5mins to heatup heatsinks. Then removed backplate and touched each gpu heatsink. Ofcourse one of them was cold. Removed that second gpu heatsink and saw small blob of thermal paste connecting 2 small resistors? around gpu die.
    I was sooooooooo pissed for few weeks because of that distraction that made me to lose one GPU :D .
     
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    I'm more of a "I'm not limited to one thing or the other" guy. I don't have 1000's of games wasting space on drives. That's not my thing. As previously stated. My signature picture from hwbot pretty much explains what I do. And how much I know about 6C and 8C.
    And full out means unlocked, more power and all high end parts. Hope that clears it up for you. :)
     
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    well nothing to really oc in storage anyway lol and its kinda risky losing all files.
    clevo skylake-E thanks so i can jump on it.
     
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    LOL, Thank you. I'm loving it. :)

    What software do you mean? Nahimic? Here: nahimic1.jpg nahimic2.png

    The thing I learned is to not overpower the amp with max volume in app you use but lower it to approx 25% and adjust volume with windows master volume slider.
     
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    Looks like the Windows 10 Anniversary update is not compatible with the GT80s. I have never seen so many blue screens, got rid of that fast!
     
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