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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    Do a OS refresh and see if it helps. Make sure all data are backed up before proceeding.
     
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    I don't know how to say this, sooo... Nahimic is disabled per this view...probably due to the output selected. To show the settings @mason2smart is interested in, it needs to be in Speaker or supported headphone port - and enable by toggling the middle button to enable the settings / sliders.
     
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    Oh no no. Nahimic is ENABLED. I just turned off the effects but the EQ works just as well without adding excess noise and I don't really need any more reverb or voice clarity. ;)
    Look. This is nahimic turned off. Compare with the earlier picture: nahimic3.jpg

    Here's the EQ. If Nahimic is disabled, all sliders are greyed out. nahimic2.jpg

    Like this:

    nahimic4.jpg

    Btw, it works the same whether it's on Sabre, Headphones or speakers. Just on Sabre with considerably higher sound quality.
     
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    Oh, and not to forget... This needs to pop up in the system tray when you plug into the Sabre port: cmedia.jpg systray.jpg

    It is absent from systray if nothing is plugged into the HiFi port.
     
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    Looks weird with all the settings sliders dark, makes it look like it's turned off. And, I couldn't tell if the Equalizer image was from the same state, as it's sliders were "on".

    Glad to hear it's all working as you like :)
     
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    Nice, that's new to me, I didn't have Sabre in the GT80 SLI-263.

    Pretty nice.

    Did you have a chance to try a high impedance Headphone on the Sabre port yet?

    Thanks for the details :)
     
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    Yeah, it's hard to really tell from single picture(s). I'd have to record a video to show how it is set up but... too lazy for that :)
    Also a weird thing... I can't see all the pictures I uploaded at the same time. It always shows only a few and when I refresh, it'll show (usually) a different few. Not sure what's that about.

    The highest impedance headphones I have are 32 ohms. (Grado SR325e) and they sound absolutely AMAZING on the Sabre port. Best I've ever heard them.
     
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    Installing the Anniversary update right now. Wanna see what's the fuss is about. ;)
     
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    Good luck :)
     
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    Yeah, it's a fairly recent problem, last few weeks, I have better luck (sometimes) with Firefox, Chrome is worse - drops more images more frequently for me. But, that might just be circumstantial.

    I filed a bug when it first started happening, and a few times since, but no response to the posts with that subject.

    Not sure what the source of the problem is, or if a solution is being worked on.

    More people need to report the problem, I think most people don't really notice or put 2+2 together and realize it's a problem with the website / storage.
     
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    So far I'm liking it. So far I can see a few interface *start menu( changes which I like and Cortana can hear me from farther away. Yay! LOL
    No BSODs yet :)
     
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    For me, it's pretty much the same on Chrome, Firefox or Edge. How/where do you report a bug?
     
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    Well, I follow the active threads in here:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/forums/site-suggestions-announcements-and-guidelines.1023/

    And, for a while "Slow site Performance" was the place to post:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/slow-site-performance.792212/

    @Phoenix started a thread for this problem:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/uploaded-images-error.794287/

    But, so far, no interaction from site developers, managers, supporters about this specific problem...

    The best thing about posting in a site is uploading images to it, so images can be supported moving forward should the site get migrated to new hardware, new board software, new image hosting, etc.

    Using an outside service for image's has in the past been problematic when that site goes away, expires older images, streams ad's instead of the original image, etc.

    You end up with lots of helpful technical posts with broken image links - and even if you backed up the images and still have them, you now have 100's-1000's of images to fix in posts on sites you might not even visit these days - who remembers all the places you post with images over 20 years?

    Hosting the images on the website storage service integrated with posting has a much better chance of having working - persistent - images through site upgrades over many years. The posts with the images are the value in total of the site, so they are well taken care of by the site over time.

    I have added a couple of site mods that look like they are involved in fixing site problems, sorry if I am bothering someone that isn't in the right support chain for fixing the rampant broken images - perhaps let those storage / image guys/gals know images aren't working well in the last few weeks :)

    @Dannemand @brubenstein @justinkw1 @downloads @ATG @namaiki
     
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    Do you talk in your sleep...? Cortana will know, ask her... :confused: :D :eek:
     
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    discovered an issue with my Haswell Titan (980m). I got an HP Envy All-in-one curved PC (amazing by the way) and it has an HDMI input 2.0 for the 3440x1440 screen. Plugging in any of my other laptops via HDMI will get me full resolution albeit at 30hz. However, when I plug in the Titan via HDMI the laptop freezes. The LCD goes black and then becomes non-responsive, even after unplugging. I have to restart the laptop. Using mini display adapters I can connect, thought still waiting for a 4k 60hz mini display to HDMI adapter to arrive in the mail. But the HDMI issue frustrates me. It should at least work at 30hz, but it won't work at all. I've plugged my titan into other TVs and monitors, even my HTC Vive works just fine. Anybody else have this issue with 4k or ultrawide monitors?
     
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    Yeah, I know. But I don't think it could be more dangerous than sleeptalking next to my wife. ;) And.. I usually put her to sleep. Cortana, not my wife. LOL
     
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    Since msi promise 2 generation upgrade of mxm card, where is it sold?

    I never see the mxm upgrade kit for sale anywhere.
     
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    Hi people. I have found this laptop with a good price (I think) and I ask you since you are owners of this machine (beast).
    MSI GT80S 6QE-085XES (2x980m, 16gb ram, 256gb SSD NVMe, etc...) at 2300€ link HERE.

    Do you think is a good price? Should I wait until gamescom and pascal release?
    Thank you.
     
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    no problems here!
     
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    What are you talking about, you're complaining about problems with your laptops all the time :p :D o_O

    Glad to hear MS didn't tank your GT80S.

    I wonder what @????'s GT80S problem with AU was??
     
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    Looks like a good deal.
     
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    i dont get why these major corp dont do things like clevo put a desktop cpu in it. i mean these high end laptop already so thick lol no point going bga to cripple it..
     
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    It's a further defined market of its own, also there's this mentality, "if I am going to have desktop performance why don't I just buy a desktop system because it's easier to upgrade with cheaper upgrade costs, plus longer warranty terms".
     
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    thats the sad part which also makes little sense of having desktop performance GPU in laptop too lol.
    i mean if they all fit into the chassis its worth to having 6/8c in these machines.
     
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    There are levels, steps / plateau's to making a laptop perform like a desktop.

    For me the GPU is #1, if I can get 2x SLI in a laptop, and enough CPU to drive it in games, that's enough for me.

    I don't need a hot CPU in my laptop, I have plenty of servers to crunch data, the laptop is my "user interface" machine, and having the high power GPU local is more important.

    Would it be nice to get a hot CPU too, sure, but most of the time I won't be using it to the same % level as the GPU's.

    I think the practicalities for most people are the same. Most people don't need the hot CPU, they aren't benchmarking they are using applications that require GPU power - like gaming.

    So that's why many builders stop at an "adequate" CPU, and put in outrageous GPU's, because most people when gaming will get benefit from the GPU power.

    If the heat and power considerations weren't limiting factors, and size was reduced, we'd all have the fastest parts in more laptops :)
     
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    gpu is #1 because it was always the weakest component b4 other than HDD. HDD didnt get upgrade to SSD because of cost concern until just last few yrs.

    i'd say laptop without good cpu is just a normal laptop for average use, i'd consider it just like an ultra book with integrated GPUs with shared memory rofl, cant even believe my first laptop was sony vaio and i thought its good LOL.

    gotta have cpu power, gotta do things with lag, delay and spikes, little of those as much as possible.
     
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    The 45w CPU is a good CPU, in fact it's engineered to give enough / adequate CPU power without requiring so much TDP as to not fit in most physical laptop form factors.

    My gaming didn't have any lag, spikes, or delay when gaming with a 47w CPU and 2 x 980m GPU's.

    Most of the time the CPU was at 35-55% while the GPU's were over 90% utilization. The GPU's were heavily used in gaming, while the CPU wasn't.

    Over CPU'ing a laptop doesn't improve performance in gaming, it's just more idle while doing it :)
     
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    the 45w cpu is not a good cpu though, when clocked at 4.3ghz uses 1.455v that is simply garbage no matter how much intel want to sugar coat it, sorry trash is trash. if 6700k can do 4.8ghz at 1.37v with similar technology no way mobile couldnt do it. the crap silicon they give us in mobile is a complete joke, i bet those xeon mobile chip they charge 1k+ uses the best binned cpu, but of course u cant overclock em, sucks.

    its funny how they even fail to say its to make it thin and save battery power, cause higher voltage sure doesnt help and runs hotter with such a trash hardware LOL
     
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    It's not trash, stop calling it trash - you're being silly calling a perfectly good CPU trash. You sound silly saying it :)

    The 45w CPU can do 4.0ghz. That's enough for the job it's doing.

    The 95w CPU can OC further, but in gaming context with the same GPU's there is no appreciable difference.

    That 95w CPU is sitting idle more than the 45w CPU, so spending all that $ on extra cooling and power to fit in a 95w CPU is a waste of resources.

    That's silly ;)
     
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    4.0ghz is around 4.6ghz ivybridge, which is something i can already do. waste of money :) garbage bga though is still garbage.
     
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    Be sure u use a cable that support 4k@60hz

    Inviato dal mio ALE-L21 utilizzando Tapatalk
     
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    If it's all that's needed to push the 1080/1070 SLI to full use, I am happy with it; more is less in this case - it takes away from the power budget for the GPU's.
     
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    Not if the cores sit idle, 4 cores at too high of a clock rate to use it all is the same as more cores than the application will use.

    And, yes, more GPU than can be fully used at 1080p 18.4" is questionable, but then external monitors will run at 4k/5k - more than one.

    We shall see how the performance is when it arrives, and gets tuned and run by owners.

    It may be that the next generation chipset and CPU's, with more TDP, will be needed.

    For now, it's fun to think about. :)
     
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    run multiple application so it doesnt sit idle, pretty ez to do with multi tasking. excited for turbo 3.0 if it comes with cannonlake make use of some single core performance
     
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    That's good too, lets see how it pans out, chaining cores for better single thread performance has been the pursuit of unicorns for a long time.

    Everything is multi-tasking in the modern OS anyway, but we were talking about dedicated loads with constant throughput at the max of TDP - tuning for best output throughput result.

    Anything else loading those cores is noise in the way of a good pure data result. :D
     
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    If anyone has problems with Nahimic after Win10 Anniversary, there is a new audio driver + new version of Nahimic on MSI website. Works great.
     
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    a powerful cpu would be good, with two 1080, tbh i donno if the junk bga can keep up. higher frequency on cpu would do better for GPUs as well as all other application. WITH exception bga is pure junk.
     
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    how'd you do the dual heatsink fan mod? sorry OT
     
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    not exactly dual heatsink i guess. i simply connect cpu/gpu heatsink with some extreme cooling pad so heat flows toward another heatsink having 2 fans working rid of heat from cpu instead of just 1 fan.
     
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    pic?
     
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    Hello

    I got a MSI GT80S 6QF

    I want to know if somebody owns the same model and make a restoration factory .iso. I change M.2 PCIe and accidentally I format the ones with the factory recovery.

    I need them to recover factory image.

    Hope your help.
     
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    will have to wait until i disassemble it which prob wont happen as theres no time at all. if u search google for internal of m18x or m18x r2 u'll find it, or even aw18 as they are similar design. put 3 heatpipes 15cm length ontop of CPU heatsink and 2ndary GPU heatsink, and use these between heatsink and the 3 heatpipes " http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g8/...mal_Pads_Tape-Extreme_Thermal_Pads-Page1.html" find the 1mm type they work way better than thermal paste and even better than CLU due to uneven surface and its easier for disassemble purposes as well.

    only thing is its obviously not designed to fit so u'll have to cut a chunk of chassis and the middle screw for keyboard wont be much of a help, which is fine. putting down the keyboard which applys pressure so it doesn't move anywhere.
     
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    turns out quite disappointing LOL.. no 3rd fan, complete internal re-design with 3 NVMe PCIE SSD in raid 0 is simply retarded. i guess it really is all about marketing match up to those number because ASUS is doing the samething. im not interested in a laptop thats not capable of holding any 2.5" storage device.. if that cpu is 6700k then MAYBE a go.

    although CPU now has its own cooling area with 3 pipes not bad, was hoping for something a bit better. maybe theres still a optic drive with this, hopefully..

    the hell.jpg
     
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    I don't think that was showing 3 NVME drives
     
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    That video teases *both* the GT73VR and GT83VR, that shot you posted is of the GT73VR - it's the one with the standard 4x M.2 pod near the front - just like the GT72S. And, that's why you don't see the CPU fan, the GT73VR doesn't have it, only the GT83VR.

    Look at the Video Title again, and then re-watch it :)
     
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    That was the GT73VR M.2 layout, not the GT83VR.

    The GT83VR is basically the same as the GT80(S)'s, except some upgrades for cooling, power, and perhaps some other surprises :)
     
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