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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. cris calderon

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    i bought it new. it goes back to normal after closing the lid. i'll try uninstalling the driver and reinstall. thanks for the help!
     
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    Try to use DDU in safe mode to uninstall drivers. Also disable automatic drivers update
     
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    MSI support said they do t do gpu upgrades??? They just sell stuff in bulk?
     
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    "do t do", don't do?

    I think it's gonna take some time for the affected departments to figure out what's what when it comes to upgrades for the GT80. The previous single GPU upgrades were sent out as kits.

    The GT80 is a big job to upgrade, complete tear down and re-jiggering new plumbing, wiring, and it's gonna be a tall order to expect the "average" owner to do the upgrade themselves.

    It's a lot of $ to invest in a dual GPU upgrade, and then to leave the installation to chance seems unwise.

    I guess you can complete the RMA, and then figure out the GPU upgrade later :D
     
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    whats ur cpu chip capable of hmscott ever tried to push it?
     
  6. hmscott

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    Which chip? CPU? GPU? Display drivers? :)

    I already posted everything I benchmarked and tested on the GT80 SLI-263, look around...
     
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    @hmscott @mason2smart

    this pic look real for the new gt83? or just some marketing scheme looks different than the pic i posted the other day.

    TEST-DRIVE-landing_072616_01.jpg
     
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    cpu of course :D. the frequency and voltage !
     
  9. hmscott

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    It's real, you should go, take photo's, post them here :cool:
     
  10. hmscott

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    Really man, you're that bored? o_O

    Like I said, I posted all my results in this thread and the benchmark thread for GT80's. And, you saw them when you had the other username. Go search :)
     
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    from my experience with m18x r2, they have 4 vents on the back look symmetrical but only 3 fans so only 3 vents are exhaust vents. what happen with this is that the *vent which doesnt have a fan will actually have air sucked in as intake, and as we know air from the back is likely already hot so it causes issue and with the M18 they fixed that.

    assuming gt83 have 3 fans, and that picture with a thin long middle vent.. no fan size that flat and wide the area would be HUGEE lol. so 3rd fan is placed in there some where..
     
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    The heat exchangers at the two corners are the same size, just split across the corner facing back and to a side.

    The middle one is long and thin, so that heat exchanger must be long and thin, with the CPU heat pipes in the middle, and maybe an additional heatpipe from each GPU on each side connected to the middle heat exchanger as well, that would make sense as the Pascal GPU's are hotter.

    So, are you going to the newegg event? :D
     
  13. ole!!!

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    or we can pray that i'tll come with 4 fans :D
     
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    Thank you sir. I didn't realize until yesterday night, the MSI Website actually has all the WIN7 64 drivers!

    Also, my SLI-274 came with a 128GB SSD + 1 TB HDD :( So I'm looking at:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BO4L3MY/ref=ox_sc_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3ISMVC1FTQD6C

    I called MSI and Henry was real cool about telling me even though he can confirm it's not on their 'approved' list, it should work. Does anyone here have an opinion about this drive?
     
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    No experience with this brand. Some 1,2,3 star reviews, read those.

    The cheapest I recommend that has been reported here in this forum to work with the GT80 series is the Sandisk X400 M.2 SSD's.

    M.2 X400 512GB
    https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Solid-State-Drive-SD8SN8U-512G-1122/dp/B0194MV3XM/ref=sr_1_1?

    X400 M.2 1TB:
    https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Solid-State-Drive-SD8SN8U-1T00-1122/dp/B0194MV300/ref=pd_sim_147_3?

    I haven't used them, they came out after I filled up my GT80 with a few different brands to try them out. The Evo 850, the Micron M600, and the Crucial M200, all worked about the same.
     
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  16. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    GT83VR = 3 fans, 3 exchangers, 15 heat pipes :)
     
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    Some more potential bad news for people hoping to upgrade. According to @Prema, mobile Pascal has no support for LVDS, so current GT80(S) systems are incapable of using them assuming his info is correct.
     
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  18. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Just to make sure everyone understands that there is a difference between pure LVDS (older models) and the approach used in a more recent models:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?posts/10313663
     
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    Window 10 just updated my GT80S6QE and broke most everything! It removed classic shell and put it's stupid ad-ridden crap start menu back and worst of all, broke my wireless. Is there a way to roll back this fiasco, otherwise my GT80 is now just a large paperweight.
     
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    I found the option to roll back to an earlier build. This got my start menu back in order, but my wireless is still gone. Doesn't even show in adapters, just the ethernet. Any ideas on how to get it back? This must have happened to others as well.
     
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    Yeah, I'd hold off panicking until the MSI announcements about the new laptops, and MSI announces that either upgrades will or won't follow for the GT80.

    MSI will follow through on their promise for upgrades for the GT80 series and GT72 series, in some fashion.

    Notwithstanding Prema's excellent work, he doesn't work for MSI and hasn't enough info to claim MSI won't make upgrades for the GT80 or any other MSI model, and in fact he hasn't made such a claim.

    @Prema was originally speaking about Clevo models with LVDS.

    Prema was then asked about the MSI GT80 series, and Prema made an estimate of what it would take to make it work, from his experience, not as an MSI engineer. (Why this method doesn't work for LVDS Clevo models, I have no idea.)


    Don't jump to conclusions, MSI will make it work :)
     
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  22. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    As said, just check your service manuals if you want to know how your current boards are wired and if they are using bridge ICs to convert digital to analog signals before going into the screen.

    Nothing to do with Clevo or MSI, Mobile Pascal just no longer output any analog signals themselves.
     
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    Or, relax and let MSI handle it. It's going to be MSI's job to follow through on providing the promised 2 generations of GPU upgrades for the GT80 and GT72.
     
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    And, the GT83 already has been seen and listed with 1080 SLI, MSI can do the same for the GT80 with a 1070 SLI upgrade :)
     
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    There a lots of PC and Xbox owners suffering from the after effects of the Windows 10 AU rollout, here are a bunch of links to search for problems/solutions:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=ann...4Xmu77OAhUL1WMKHb7AAYcQpwUIFg&biw=867&bih=556

    I ran across an AU wireless specific page a day or so ago, I will see if I can find it again...

    Darn, found it, but it doesn't have a solution yet...

    Anniversary Update Broke My Wifi
    http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/622763/anniversary-update-broke-my-wifi/

    I don't run Windows 10, so you may need to dig in, search, and try things to see if they work for you.

    Please post any problem fixes that you find work :)
     
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    whats lvds?
     
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    still no problems here :)
     
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    The only problem i have are:
    1. Msi dragon gaming center didnt load up.
    2. Booting took longer than when i still use W8.1.
     
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    guys just reallized the aniv. update just installing crap....

    What features does it add to windows?
     
  30. ole!!!

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    got any pic? HOOK IT UP
     
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    msi-GT83VR_Titan-product_pictures-3d18.png

    now we can see the 3rd vent clearly. as we can see now the other half of that thin vent like is completely blocked off so it make sense not to suck hot air back into the machine. though that 3rd fan looks skinny as hell though.

    i still ain't buying until i see the inside, gotta see how the heatsink works for cpu. if cpu heatsink is similar to before, then in gt83 the cpu heat will be worked by 3 fans together, if not and just worked by the new thin fan its, no different than m18x. bga garbage with crappy cooling not worth buying at that point.
     
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    @ole!!!

    Yep, but I've been asked not to post just yet.....patience, only a couple more days. The pic indicates cool air flowing from top into the three vortex fan blades, and hot air blasted rearward through the exchangers, exiting all three rear vents. :)
     
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    what makes me interested is just 2 things. cpu heatsink design if its worked by 3 fans thats first. 2nd, MSI is known to give 12v fans in gaming laptops unlike most other OEM are all 5v fan. MSI's fan would spin faster and more powerful thus carrying more air, but thats for the two original GPU fans, what about this 3rd fan added its thinner and smaller, is it also 12v or 5v?
     
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    It's time to direct just such questions HERE. Go there and ask, and I'll answer the best I can, ;)

    :)
     
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    Still no problems?
     
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    btw any of you guys hoping that the MSI GT80 series (including future products) will place the keyboard back to "normal" position near the display?
    sometimes i use my MSI GT80 on my lap when im doing some light task in bed (typing, browsing), and i realize how awkward the keyboard position is.
    its not a deal breaker, but i think it would be awesome if msi can swap the HW layout so the keyboard can be on top near the display.
     
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    It would be worse than now. Fans would be on the bottom side blowing hot air into your right hand. Palm rest would be hot as hell. Also now it has slight slope and placing keyboard near screen would make it really thick.
     
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    still not updated lol it was a pre-update
     
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    if you look it up one of the original designs was for a detachable keyboard....
     
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    The depth of the mechanical keyboard keeps anything else from occupying the keyboard space, so all of the motherboard, CPU, GPU, etc components must be in the balance of the space.

    The CPU/GPU cooling needs a route to the back for exhaust, and that would be tough to route around / through the keyboard bay.

    The heat generated would make the palm rests too hot.

    It's not going to happen with the deep mechanical keyboard.

    Maybe you should get the GT73VR? That has the keyboard you want, thinner so it can cohabitate with the laptop electronics, and looks smaller and lighter, and has the 17.3" 120hz 5ms screen - or 4k likely.

    The configuration specs are unknown, the GT73VR might not get the 1080 SLI, and only be offered with a single 1080 or 1070 SLI, still awesome :)
     
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    do people really expect the lapop to last that long and the lack of cpu upgrades.... to not make it practical to just get a new model after a few years rather than upgrading gpu's
     
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    Link/reference?
     
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    The CPU's aren't changing much, 45w TDP doesn't leave a lot of room for improving performance. And, the Cannondale is supposed to be 35w, which might give the same performance as now but use less power.

    So, given an unchanging CPU world for laptops (ignoring desktop CPUs), there isn't much to upgrade beyond the GPU's.

    Your GT80S should last through Pascal, Pascal II/Volta just fine :)
     
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    Dragging out the inevitable disaster(s), are you?

    Better be ready with the most used fixes/solutions for Windows 10 AU aftermath. :confused: :D :eek:

    @stank0 on standby ;)
     
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    so laptops just keep falling farther and farther behind desktops... Requirements increase and force users to buy desktops for powerhouse rendering becuase their laptops have crappily binned, overpriced, "high-end" processors?

    Intel -- you never cease to disappoint.

    Any alternatives to intel out there?
    Nvidia also makes it tough by using unoptimized professional software (like iray)---and charging for it. Supposedly the compute score of dual 980m outrank a titan x yet rendering is so slow.

    Makes it hard for high schoolers to learn animation and modeling without having a gt80 and a $5,000+ desktop and their software and some sort of training course and time (something a kid like me cannot afford)
     
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    nah i took a restore point and im sending it in anyways :) just more issues for msi to deal with :)



    Just have to remind MSI of their software warranty :)
     
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    one thing that always wracks my brain is to keep getting my laptop optimized more, my files better organized, and that theres always new software for cool stuff and new shortcuts and windows features im never using but probably should... and probably don't know about... :confused:
    Always thinking im forgetting something lol. :D
     
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    they shoulda made the keyboard out of magnesium, made it both plugged in and rechargable wireless :)

    I also liked their original led ideas. If implemented well coulda been really cool

    I mean look how many times they wrote detachable keyboard---must have been really big thing in original design. same with led's which turned into red plastic.... :(

    Also surprised battery not any larger (MAH) than it is considering its size...
    Notice thermals intake from the bottom in this depiction.
    Wonder what the line was coming down from the msi logo in the center on the top pic... kinda matches the seam on my lid :)

    LED implied multicolor :)

    dont think the gt83 is multicolor though :(
     
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    @MSI Myco @MSIGeno

    Maybe these ideas can be incorporated into the GT84?

    Would also love to have a cooler looking light up msi logo on the front, A more edge-to-edge style screen or at least no inset for the screen (flat against bezel) and a more metallic look for the bezel.

    U guys need more subwoofer!
    Use a fingerprint reader/nfc connection for the power button. So only the user can turn it on/off :)

    with its currently large weight... most users prob. wouldn't care if it weighed a little more -- esp. if cool new features were added in like the ones above.
     
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