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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. FirewAbera

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    Thank you.
    I bought if off Scan Computers in the UK around a year a go. I think it still has a year warranty on it.
    MSI web is still down from here too. I will update the progress.

    Cheers!
     
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    Another good reason to pay far less for an M.2 SATA device rather than an M.2 PCIE x4 device ;)

    U3M2M - M.2 PCIe SSD to USB3.0 Adapter
    http://www.bplus.com.tw/Adapter/U3M2M.html
    " U3M2M is M.2 PCIE SSD to USB3.0 adapter design for PCI-SIG M.2 PCIe SSD mobile solution. This adapter is allow to use M.2 PCIE SSD 2242 / 2260 / 2280 module with KeyM or B+M through USB3.0 port on your desktop or laptop."

    There are a lot more M.2 SATA USB cases and adapters, but googling will turn up what you need.

    Good news :)

    When you finally get through on MSI's registration site it will tell you how long your warranty with them will be.
     
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    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    Pleaset outline the process to convert the machine into 4x1TB SSD configuration. I would like at the very least to replace the 2x128GB SSD with 2x1TB SSD and later add another couple of SSDs, possibly 2x2TB when the price point becomes more feasible.

    Is it just as simple as adding a 1TB SSD, using Macrium Reflect to clone the C: drive into the 1TB SSD and then swapping then 1TB SSD into the primary boot drive? And then adding another 1TB SSD to be the data drive?
     
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    If you already have a RAID0 setup, and have Intel RST installed, I have in the past added new M.2 SSD's on my GT80 using the systray app interface.

    Shown here to select disk, while migrating data, and finally after completed:
    intel rst add disk actyallt used port 4.JPG
    intel rst migrating data Status after 1 hour 40pct.JPG
    Intel RST 4x 512GB Micron M600 M.2 GT80-263.PNG
    IDK about removing a drive from the RAID.

    It might be best to install 2 new 1TB drives and create a RAID for them, then use Macrium Reflect to clone from the old 2x RAID0 to the new one, then remove the 2x old RAID drives and add the 3rd and 4th 1TB drive via the method above.

    Good luck!
     
  5. etcetera

    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    Does the method above destroy data that pre-exists on these 2x128GB that the GT80 comes with?

    I am thinking about adding 2x1TB or 2x512GB as RAID 1 boot disks and keeping the existing 2x128 in place as data disks.

    What 512GB SSD are recommended for the GT80?

    I hear the best three are Samsung, Intel and Crucial. Samsung however gets more negative reviews than others.
     
  6. hmscott

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    You wouldn't add the 1TB's to the existing RAID volume. You'd build a 2nd RAID Volume with 2 of your new 1TB drives, and then clone the 2x128GB RAID Volume contents onto the new 2x1TB volume, then boot on that.

    Then physically pull the 2x128GB and install the 2 remaining 1TB drives, adding them 1 at a time to the 2x1TB RAID volume, ending up with a 4x1TB RAID volume.

    It takes time, about 40 minutes for 1 512GB to be added to the RAID volume, so be patient. Fortunately the Intel RST tool gives you status as to how far along the addition is in %, not time.

    Have fun :)
     
  7. etcetera

    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    I want to connect Dell UP2713HM. The monitor only has DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort.

    GT80 SLI has Mini DP connection. HDMI is out of the question as I want to get the full 2560x1440 resolution.

    Is it possible to use a Mini DP to DP cable to connect UP2713HM and get the full 1440 resolution?

    Or does it make sense to get miniDP to dual-link DVI active adapter. (Dell UP2713HM has DVI)

    I do not want to install another RAID. I am not even sure I want RAID-1 (mirroring). I want 2x512GB SSDs and not in sync with each other. One would be made the primary boot disk with some documents on it. If that SSD goes down, *or* a file is modified by mistake, I can always recover off the second SDD. I had the scheme on another computer and cloned the drives about once a week, or when I felt like it. And it worked very well.

    If you primary SSD goes down, you lose a few days of data, which may or may not be signficant, but due to user error, you can always recover from the backup volume. So there are pros/cons. Of course you can clone every day, the entire disk, or just the delta between the two.
     
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    Common sense should answer this for you :)

    The Mini DP to DP cable is the right answer, in case your common sense is failing at the moment.

    Spending $100-200 for an active DVI adapter isn't the right answer, but I have done it, so I can save you the time and the $. :)
     
  9. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    SSD is pretty reliable but they sometimes can still go bad so we all try to do our due diligence to keep everything backed up as frequently as possible. Also, you can use OneDrive or Dropbox to keep important data there.
     
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    Those 2x128GB M.2 drives are pretty expensive in terms of using up 2 of your 4 M.2 slots, so maybe retire them - you can keep them together to reinstall them if you want to get the original OS up again - their location or order doesn't matter they will pair and come up as a single volume.

    Then use the 4 M.2 drives as you like, RAID or not :)

    2x1TB M.2's should be enough, keep the heat and power use of the 2x128's out of the laptop, in the GT80 those M.2 drives are right next to the CPU and GPU, and overlap each other (3 of them anyway) and I found that spreading them out reduced M.2 and CPU temps.

    There are several things to take into consideration, maybe give it some more research time :)
     
  11. etcetera

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    That is correct, the idea is to make another bootable drive in the 512GB format and eventually retire 2x128GB.

    Once 1TB gets cheaper, I want to have 4x1TB configuration (No RAID involved).
     
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    Yes, but you want to make sure you get a good quality cable, as DisplayPort is more finicky than HDMI, VGA, or DVI. This is the one I've used to connect my GT73 and Clevo P670RS to 1080p, 1440p, and 4K monitors. For optimal signal quality, you want as short a cable as is practical for your setup. That's not to say the 2m cable won't be any good, but if you can get away with the shorter one, get that.
     
  13. xor01

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    Hi guys, it's almost 2 years now since I purchased GT80. Although now I'm in the market for a more small laptop, I still use my GT80 everyday for work and gaming.
    Anyway, I have questions:
    1. Booting is really slow. it took almost 2 mins from pressing the power button to Windows login screen.
    2. Sleep mode doesn't work. If I press sleep button, the laptop will go to sleep, but if I try to wake it up, it will just blink several times then goes to normal boot.

    Several solutions I have tried:
    * I updated the BIOS and EC BIOS to the latest version.
    * I deleted the factory RAID-0 SSD config, so now the OS boots up from single SSD.
    * I clean installed Windows 10.

    Anyone have the same problem and might know the solution?
     
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    Clone the OS boot drive to the other SSD, and try booting from that one...

    I had the same problem, one of my SSD's in the RAID0 pair got flaky and my booting got slow, and apps hung, so I split the RAID0 and restored my OS back to a single M.2 SSD from the RAID - I got lucky, that was the good drive.

    You might have restored to the bad one... try the other one :)
     
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    Got another heatsink in passable condition and switched it out.. no improvement. Is it possible the vBIOS could be corrupted and causing something? or maybe the CPU heatsink is broken and only transferring heat to the one side? It also seems that MSI does not have an RMA form for laptops, every other product type they sell is included aside notebooks.
     
  16. xor01

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    I already done that, clean installed Windows 10 on both SSD #1 and #2, then boot up from both of them, still slow boot and unable to wake up from sleep.
     
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    Darn... it's something else then... do you have a Windows 7 / 8.1 installer? Maybe try one of those on one of the drives, just as a sanity check it's not something to do with the current Windows 10 build.

    Maybe restore the original out of the box OS image from your MSI BurnRecovery flash recovery installer?

    That's the traditional sanity check, if the problem still exists with the out of the box OS image, then it's hardware, and time to file a ticket with MSI.
     
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    I still fear the card is cooked beyond its limits. Swap the cards and make sure before spending any more resources maybe?
     
  19. hmscott

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    Yeah, I'd RMA it - it's all automatic to bring up the ticket form after you login to the MSI Member Center login:
    https://register.msi.com/service/us_support

    Click on your registered product, Click on My Support, Aske for Support, then your registered notebook shows up with a "Get Support" button, click it, this then takes a long time to come back - it comes back with a form already mostly filled out with your registered notebook details.

    From there fill in the blanks, make a short statement, attach a zip file with photo's and text file with more details, it's pretty straightforward, but here's a couple of image snippets to help queue you:

    login click on my support then ask for support.JPG click on Get Support for your notebook.JPG
     
  20. etcetera

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    Does anyone else experience slowness with the 1TB HDD that come with GT80?

    I am getting a lot of errors reading from the drive, "Try again, Skip" kind of thing. It seems abnormally slow.

    Is my HDD going south? The machine is just a few months old. I am tempted to replace the 1TB HDD "Data" drive with an SSD.
     
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    Errors reading from the drive like that is a bad thing, very bad, like losing your files bad.

    For now copy off as much as you can to another drive first - skipping bad files, then do a disk check with block scan to remap the bad blocks - hopefully the drive is save-able - you don't have too many bad blocks to put in the bad block remapping table on the HDD.

    And, yes, replacing with an SSD would be best :)
     
  22. Rothcall

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    The website wont accept the serial number, and the applet says its already registered, so no RMA is gonna be happening i think xx

    And the main MSI RMA website not so directly states they wont accept notebooks. So cant go around the register site.

    Something i did notice, for some reason the fan on the hot GPU turns off while idle while the other GPU's keeps running.
     
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    You aren't following the link's and directions I gave you are you?

    You don't need to reenter the serial number, you select the already registered laptop - the serial number already shows and gets populated in the ticket that gets opened...

    Go back and read my posts again, match the images and clicking instructions... this isn't difficult.

    If you need to call their phone number and ask them to open an RMA, tell them you already registered your laptop and give them the login name (not password), and they can take it from there. They may want to verify the serial number - so have it ready.

    "Millions" of people have figured this out, and set up RMA's for their laptops, I know you can do it too :)
     
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    Its not registered to my account, my account has no laptops registered. Seriously, why would i have even brought up the error if it was? The previous owner probably did when they got it, hence the error, and meaning i'm screwed as far as that option goes.

    The fan on the hot card's side is puzzling as it keeps shutting off while idle. Is that normal behavior for the GT80(non S)?

    Silent option only seems to be able to control the other card's fan, only cooler boost can forcefully raise the hot one's fan speed.
     
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    I am trying to add 2x512GB SSDs made by Sandisk.

    I cannot find the slot to install SSD #1. I removed the original #2 and #3, as the chart shows. #1 SSD unit, when bolted down, does not plug into anything. Nor does it even lay flat. Due to the white rubber pads that are installed there.

    The #4 SSD unit fit nicely next to the HDD. Where is the plug-in recepticle for the SSD #1?

    Here are the pics:

    The original configuration, 2x128GB SSDs:

    [​IMG]

    These two removed and an attempt to install 512GB into slot #1:

    [​IMG]

    It does not plug in into anything:

    [​IMG]
     
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    How do I break the RAID on GT80 SLI?

    I went into BIOS, reset SATA mode from RAID to AHCI and the computer failed to boot.

    I did clone the RAID-0 disks to a single 512GB non-RAID disk and made it the primary boot device, and it boots just fine. Now the question is, how do I break up the raid involved. The 2x128GB SSDs that came with the machine.
     
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    Quick format them?
     
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    I got 2x512 SanDisk X400 modules, thinking I could keep them and the 2x128GB that are already in there. I installed one 512, Macrium Reflect mirrored the RAID-0 array onto the new SanDisk 512GB SSd and want to remove the 2x128Gb, instead installing the second Sandisk and a 3rd SSD module.

    I suppose I don't need the data on these 2x128GB since I boot just fine off the single Sandisk SSD.

    You start the "Intel Rapid Storage Technology" from the Windows 10 operating system. It has nothing to do with BIOS. Perform all RAID work from there.

    In BIOS, in Advanced, you can turn off the SATA mode from RAID to AHCI.
     
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    What kind of games are we talking about that a 2 x 980m's struggled with? Because I have my GT80S 6QE for 2 years now and none of the newer games yet that can bring this machine to its knees. Switching between ECO mode @power saving while just browsing or watching movies and Sport mode @high performance during long hours of intense gaming, fans always set to Basic @max using MSI DGC is a game changer and can potentially make your laptop's hardware last longer.
     
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    I had to replace that HDD right after the purchase. Good thing the XOTICPC guys are so easy to deal with.

    Is anyone still waiting for his upgrade through MSI buyback program? I haven't heard from them since April.
     
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    Beemo BGA is totally TSK TSK!

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    Is MSI Trade in program still goin? Did anyone here have a success in trading in their old laptops for a new one? I have the MSI GT80S 6QE with 980m SLI...I already opened the laptop for upgrade and re-pasting purposes...so not sure if it still clear for such program.
     
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    Are you in the US? It's expired, but you can always contact them directly to find out.
     
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    It's not expired - and the 2nd generation GPU upgrade is still on the horizon, just use the same contact info to submit your request for a trade-in, see post #1 of the trade-in thread for info.

    They are holding with their current GT73/GT83 inventory for trade-in so you won't get option for GT75.
     
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    I'm from the Philippines. That is bad news.

    I'm going to do your suggestion bro.
     
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    If it's registered in the US, I'd go for it :)
     
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    I hope so bro...but as usual I wouldn't hold my breath.
     
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    Well I sincerely hope so. At least for those already registered. Whether they're accepting new registrations that I don't know.
    But last time I talked to them, they saidl, because of a large volume of people interested in this trade-in program, it might take 2 months or longer.
    I seriously doubt there is such a "large volume" of MSI owners that would justify this eternal wait. I think they just waiting for people to lose patience and buy a new one outright.
     
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    You have to have someone to do this for you in the US since they will only ship to an US address.
     
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    You're right, I need to find someone in there too, I'm going to try the reseller.
     
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    This is really good to know. I won't put any critical information on that HDD and instead will use it as a cheap backup for stuff.
     
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    Has anyone else noticed that the Dragon Gaming Center stopped working? It just fails to start. You get a Dialogue Box for User Account Control asking for authorization to let it start. Then, nothing. It shows up as running in the tray, but when you hover over the icon, the icon disappears and you're back where you started. No DGC. :/
     
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    Mine works even though I rarely ever use it. But my version is not from GT80 support page. It's for a different model (I don't remember which one). I just like it better than the native one. dragon.jpg
     
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    Yours looks different from mine. Perhaps there was an update that I missed. I will go install the new one.
    Mine said Dragon Gaming Center and had the controls on the left edge. I would show it, but i can't get it open.

    Thanks.
     
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    As I said in my previous post, it's not an update. It's an utility for a different model of MSI laptop. Your attempts of updating your DGC with the version you see on the picture will be futile.
     
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    What is the best 512GB SSD PCI-e 2280 for the GT80 Skylake edition?

    Samsung or what?
     
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    Yeah, I did catch that yours was from a different model. There was still a chance that the generic program was re-written with a new format.

    It turns out that the program still looks the same for the GT-80 as it did before. However, there was a new version. I reinstalled the SCM and then the DGC. It works as advertised, now.

    Thanks for your feedback. Knowing that your version was working meant that it was not a global situation.
     
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    I tried this with my GT80S Titan before reading this post but I must say that shift mode is unstable as fck! I OC'ed using DGC to 41x and Cinebench results are pretty low and inconsistent.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
    and my temp is hot as hell too.

    So I uninstalled DGC and switched between Intel XTU or ThrottleStop, now my CB results OC'ed @41x gives me a stable 899 all the time, and my temp are now 38c-45c on idle and 50-60c during stress test.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah. I never OC with this thing. In matter of a fact I never OC EVER anymore. I have just no need for it. This laptop is plenty fast even without pushing it. I don't even know why I have this crap (DGC) installed.
    Well, let me take that back. I DO have set it on 40x at all times and I never move it. That's the sweet spot for mine. ;)
     
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  49. Beemo

    Beemo BGA is totally TSK TSK!

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    Well, Dragon Center is a useful tool for its key features (fan control, monitoring, switching between different profiles, etc.) except the overclocking tool that comes with it doesn't work so well (at least for me), even the alternative Dragon Gaming Center software "Shift Mode" is giving me inconsistent benchmark results.

    Nice, 41x is also great for me as well, but I want to be able to OC and undervolt at the same time, so 40x -0.080v is stable for now, however that profile only runs when I play graphically intensive games, so most of the time I set it to 27x -0.120v.

    I'm curious to ask, what is your CPU and laptop model? I want to compare Cinebench results with the same exact machine and specs.
     
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  50. last_rule

    last_rule Notebook Enthusiast

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    Anyone try an eGPU on a GT80S sli-002? Im really curious if it works.
     
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