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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. Lumlx

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    Either contact Svet on MSI forums or mess with advanced BIOS options
     
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    How do i enable the advanced bios options?
     
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    left alt+right ctrl+right shift+f2 while in bios
     
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    Is it easy to exchange keycaps on the GT80 and what would be a good source of keycaps except for MSI?
    From what I gather I would just need keycaps that are compatible with the cherry switches that are used in the GT80 so that should not be that much of a problem?
     
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    I have a newer GT80 SLI Skylake 6QE but thinking about getting the original Titan GT80, because it has 4x2280 SATA III slots versus only 3x2280 in the Skylake edition. Yeah, it got 2xNVMe 2280 but lost one 2280 slot which is annoying.

    I could never tell any speed difference between SATA III 2280 SSDs and latest greatest PCIe. I triple boot Windows and Linux and Ubuntu Linux just flies on SATA III with no visible downside to it. I run SATA III and PCIe and have run Win10 on either with no speed difference.

    Now the thing that's downright useless is the HDD all Titans came with, the 1TB HGST gizmo. It's slow as a turtle and the first thing that should be removed and replaced with something modern like Samsung 960 1TB SSD or such that's an order of magnitude faster. In fact mine was kind of going bad ever since I got it, was timing out on reads and I replaced it just in time without losing any data.
     
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    Your situation is precisely why I undid the RAID GT80 came with, and installed the Win10 OS on one SSD and then cloned it to another. If there is an issue with one SSD/slot, just boot off another.
    I use macrium reflect and it makes a perfect copy of your disk so you have a clean OS you can boot off. You can use bcdedit to create an alternative boot entry or use EasyBCD.

    Either that or hit F11 during the boot cycle to get a list of bootable devices.

    A RAID configuration is twice as fast but twice as likely to fail. And latest-greatest PCIe/NVMe SSDs are just as fast as SATA III SSDs in RAID configuration, case in point, Samsung 970 Pro 2280, it spec'ed to 3500 MBS read speeds.
     
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    here is the recipe to undo the RAID 0 and create a more reliable clone setup:

    Install a 1TB SSD into a free 2280 slot, it has to be SATA III such as Samsung 860 M.2.

    Install Macrium Reflect software and clone the RAID disk where the OS is installed into the new 1TB disk. The old disk should appear as 512gb as it's composed of 2x256GB disks in RAID 0, the data is striped across 2 disks.

    Then remove both 256GB disks. Install another 1TB SATA III SSD, boot into the alternative disk you just created (Hit F11 during boot cycle to see all the bootable devices) and using Macrium to clone once again, this time from the 1TB disk you just created onto the new 1TB disk you just installed.

    when you are done with that, you will have 2x1TB bootable disks, cloned and in case of a problem with one, you can always boot off another.
     
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    I lost both screws that hold the top lid of the GT80 (SLI)... to access the SSDs and stuff. The screw looks like this. What is its size:

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Lumlx

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    Hope this helps.
    [​IMG]
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    kind of. Thank you. I need to know the pitch. But the length and diameter is certainly helpful.
     
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    My 1535 wifi card is not being detected by MSI Titan GT80 (SLI). No matter what I do, I removed the drivers, reinstalled the latest drivers. Turned wifi off and no. It's not being seen.

    I heard one suggestion to just reseat it.

    Is it worth upgrading from 1535 to something better?

     
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    Hello there! Lumlx, I really need your help too! I didn't want to spam this thread, but with my just one day old account, I can't send you PM.

    I heard that you did manage somehow to use GTX1070 in GT80 - could you please share some info? Did you need to mod BIOS, or is there some way without it? I know how to open hidden menus (thanks to you), but doesn't matter what I do, I get no video output on display or any port. After enabling non-compliance devices I can boot to Windows, but still get no video output.

    Please PM me. Would like to pay off your time somehow :) Thanks in advance!
     
  14. Lumlx

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    You won't get video output. I don't get it too. I just use external monitor. There is no way to make it work on internal since iGPU and dGPU cannot work at the same time in this laptop.
     
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    Yes, but I need to know, how did you achieved at least that. I don't get any output even on HDMI or displayports. My system doesn't recognize 1070 when present in primary slot. Did you do any changes in BIOS to make it work?
     
  16. Lumlx

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    No changes in BIOS. Just make sure when you are booting your monitor is turned off. I think if you use hdmi you even need to unplug hdmi cable from laptop. With DP all you need is just turn off monitor with switch. If you dont do that laptop for some reason gets stuck in boot loop and enters into recovery mode.
     
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    Hi guys,

    Need some advice please.

    MSI GT80.

    Not loading up - blank screen.

    Fans coming on hard - keyboard lights up - that's it.
    No flashes no burning.

    Apparently USB hard drive was plugged in.

    Any ideas asking for a friend
     
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    Disconnect all power source, and press and hold down the power button for 10 seconds.
     
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    Cheers Kev.
     
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    Is this common Kev?

    I will pass this onto the guy who owns the laptop.
     
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    This was one of the methods since that unit doesn't have a EC reset hole. But please ask him to check the unit thoroughly on the sides and bottom to make sure.
     
  22. etcetera

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    do you mean disconnect the battery?
     
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    Yes, this would allow the system to enter a discharged state so you can actually perform a cleaner boot.
     
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    After update 1909 now become slow boot about 2mins to go in window

    anyone same problem with me ?

    Before 1803 i just use 30 sec to go in window
     
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    Newbie here, just bought a used gt80s 6qe heroes edition for $950 lol
    I wanna ask if i should update the bios or not? my current bios obviously not the newest, it's from 2015 and the newest one (from official MSI website) is from 2018
    If i should, how to safely backup the current bios?
     
  26. etcetera

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    My GT80 SLI 6QE randomly does not recognize the 2.5" Samsung SSD I used to replace the HDD that it came with.
    In fact, I have 2 GT80s and it happens in both. I tried 2 different SSDs, Samsung 850 and 860 and it happens with both of them, so the SSD is not at fault, and with both computers.
    Seems like a bug in Windows?

    What SSD will reliably be recognized by Windows? The 2.5" SATA type.

    If the SSD is not visible, I have to reboot the computer several times until it becomes visible, why is this happening?
     
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    The other issue I have is in both of GT80s I have very weak microphone. The other party can barely hear me.
    Again, this is not specific to any one machine but happens on both of them. Seems GT80 has junk microphone.
     
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    The Blue Yeti microphone works very well with the GT80.
     
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    Hey guys,
    So my gaming laptop history goes something like this:
    Lenovo Y400 (GT 765m)
    Alienware 17 (GTX 780m)
    MSI GT72 Dominator (GTX 970m)
    & Currently typing this on a Alienware 15 R3 (i5-6300/ GTX 1060)


    Im in the market for an alternative at the moment and came across an interesting offer:
    MSI GT80S 6Qf TITAN SLI
    i7-6920hq
    16GB RAM
    123GB SSD/tTB HDD
    2x GTX 980m

    (See pics attached for condition)

    However when I asked for the CPUz stats, it shows that its a GTX 980 (not an m) in SLI (see attached) in following post.

    This is going to cost me the equivalent of around $900

    A desktop is out of the question for me and weight is a non issue.

    Is it a good buy? I live games like the Witcher 3 and am eagerly awaiting Cyberpunk 2077.

    Does the laptop have legs or should I save up more and go for something with at GTX 1070/2060

    8d1afdd4-4688-4b38-9909-ab541e90fe56.jpg 10090137-3c59-47fb-b285-3b69bd84bc9c.jpg a05f261f-0673-4ac9-8f88-539d1e27af43.jpg b3e18fec-c98a-40d9-b063-e8239aa6c9fe.jpg f092a9b9-fbb9-4327-80ee-ea8aedf0600d.jpg 8d1afdd4-4688-4b38-9909-ab541e90fe56.jpg 10090137-3c59-47fb-b285-3b69bd84bc9c.jpg a05f261f-0673-4ac9-8f88-539d1e27af43.jpg b3e18fec-c98a-40d9-b063-e8239aa6c9fe.jpg f092a9b9-fbb9-4327-80ee-ea8aedf0600d.jpg 8d1afdd4-4688-4b38-9909-ab541e90fe56.jpg 10090137-3c59-47fb-b285-3b69bd84bc9c.jpg a05f261f-0673-4ac9-8f88-539d1e27af43.jpg b3e18fec-c98a-40d9-b063-e8239aa6c9fe.jpg f092a9b9-fbb9-4327-80ee-ea8aedf0600d.jpg 8d1afdd4-4688-4b38-9909-ab541e90fe56.jpg 10090137-3c59-47fb-b285-3b69bd84bc9c.jpg 10090137-3c59-47fb-b285-3b69bd84bc9c.jpg a05f261f-0673-4ac9-8f88-539d1e27af43.jpg b3e18fec-c98a-40d9-b063-e8239aa6c9fe.jpg f092a9b9-fbb9-4327-80ee-ea8aedf0600d.jpg
     
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    The afore mentioned stats pictures (sorry for the double post dunno how that happened. Apologies.

    Tl,DR.... TO BUY OR NOT TO BUY?
     

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    The screen can be safely overclocked to 100hz. But it is slow response and the black level isnt that great. A single 980 is close to a 1060. Maybe abit faster. The 6920 can be overclocked 4 bins
     
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    Its a 4 core cpu. You will be definitively bottlenecked with this cpu in 2020+
    Also SLI is a dead technology so as good as it sounds, IMO opinion it is not worth it.
    Why you don't want desktop? Mitx systems are ftw.
     
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    Its a notebook site...and the last thing he wants is comments about getting a desktop. Especially here
     
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    I just came across someone offering this, so was wondering if it was a good buy. Im guessing not sadly!

    And I prefer a laptop cos I travel a lot and have loads on LAN parties.
     
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    Its a classic. The best keyboard on a laptop ever. The GT80 was a one of a kind and very special. I had one and ill always wish I still had it. ( not for 144 fps gaming anymore but for the amazing sound, the big screen and great computer experience in a beautiful form
     
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    Im not really into the 144hz thing.... yet cos all other options are 3000-4000 USD.

    Do u think it can still do high/ultra at 60 fps on most games? (1080p)

    I'm just looking for a stable 60fps on high for something like cyberpunk (unless there is no DX11) and thenncant use the sli lol)
     
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    I've had no issues with bottlenecking on anything in my MSI GT80 SLI.. with dual 980m.

    The biggest issue has been the SSDs and I undid the RAID it came with and am running a Samsung 970 SSD and a SSD in place of the 2.5" HDD.

    That's the best thing you can do for your machine, SSD upgrade to the fastest on the market.
     
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    My GT80 SLI is back from the dead about a month ago, I got it back from MSI.

    It completely bricked itself.

    Pushing the power button resulted at first in very long boots that got longer and longer, 9 minutes, 25 minutes... then 2 hours and then bricked, not even the MSI Logo screen.
    Clearly an issue with the motherboard.

    Sent it in, turns out it was an "audio board", out of warranty of course. I had by that time gotten another identical GT80 SLI that runs fine but still that is a disappointing experience. The machine has not been mistreated, in fact I never gamed on it.

    Ended up costing me less than I thought, $200 in repair plus shipping costs. Still completely unacceptable, I had never had another notebook do that to me. When GT80 self-bricked, I went back to using an older Dell L702x that was replaced by the GT80 to begin with, oh, the irony.

    Now I have 2 working GT80, so that I am somewhat appeased, but watch out. Has anyone else had that happen?
     
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    It's pretty rare to have an audio board to go out like that, however it is being used all the time.
     
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    I don't really get why an audio board failing will brick a notebook. They should have programmed the bios boot sequence to handle errors like that, I mean audio is not essential for a notebook to function, or should not be.

    While I have my dream list here, they could make the boot sequence a lot more descriptive instead of splashing the stupid MSI logo. If it got stuck, they should display where it got stuck and why. Kind of like a detailed Unix boot log.
     
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    I still like this machine, now that I have two of them, that's even better.

    Still the only laptop you can buy with a mechanical keyboard. Well, there is GT83 of course but I don't need the dual power supplies.
     
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    I have Samsung 860 2.5" EVO SSD in the 2.5" slot replacing the HDD that came with it - the problem is, the machine randomly sees it.

    It apparently has no such issues with an HDD so there is nothing mechanically wrong with the notebook, and since other machines see the SSD, there is nothing wrong mechanically with the SSD. (Solid State Disk).

    I will boot and there 2.5" 860 EVO just doesn't show up in the Disk Management tool or anywhere else.

    Bounce it again and there it is. It' about a 50/50 proposition. Any idea if this a Windows glitch, a driver issue, or what, and why is it so random?
     
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    Any firmware update available via Samsung Magician?
    What SATA mode is set in the BIOS?
     
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    I resolved the problem by switching from RAID to AHCI in BIOS and after 10 reboots, the Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SSD is seen every single time instead of 50/50 like before.
    I also installed the AHCI driver.

    However it introduced another problem, the machine hangs upon reboot. Apparently it does not like the AHCI driver. Although that is just a guess. It powers off / boots just fine however.
     
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    You will need to modify registry to allow switching from RAID to AHCI.
    https://support.thinkcritical.com/kb/articles/switch-windows-10-from-raid-ide-to-ahci
     
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    I did that, the regdit stuff.

    And I booted OK, and now AHCI sees the disk that was missing half the time. So that solve that problem, but now lost the ability to reboot.

    It has to be fully halted and then a clean cold boot.
     
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    One question I have is, if BIOS is in the RAID mode but there is no actual RAID in the computer, it has been reconfigured. What mode does it run in? Clearly not in RAID, since there is no de facto RAID.

    Do I correctly understand that it runs in the IDE mode given it's unable to use the RAID mode?

    Anyway, now it's in the AHCI mode, and I think it boots faster and more importantly, sees the disk consistently, which it wasn't before.

    But, it cannot reboot.
     
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    1. If AHCI works for you, try to do a repair install instead.
    2. RAID mode is not IDE but it operates under the same Intel RST software, even a single SSD can still operate as an independent drive. So I wouldn't go with RAID mode if I am not doing any RAID, plus I've seen a lot of companies nowadays such as DELL and HP are setting RAID mode as default instead of AHCI.
     
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    If I have RAID in BIOS but don't have any actual drives configured so, what configuration does the machine use? It can't use RAID at that point, so does it default to IDE?
     
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