***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

Excellent, so now we know that the titan is coming with skylake as well and it seems to offer 6820K.

It was weird they used my CPU as reference hhahaha.

On other news, after a couple of reinstalls, clean installs, updating other drivers etc, current nvidia 355.82 seem to be working today.

 

I order from another country! , I always go reseller for the quality of service. You see all the resellers participating here? You can't beat that support

 

They don't have Windows 10 drivers listed for your cpu - is there any my specific reason for this?

 

Do u have any reccomendations?

 

Probably because they personally hate me!

Nah, I don't know. Ken told me that drivers for broadwell work as well for most things, which makes sense since we use very similar hardware. I suppose only things like Sound blaster which is gone, is probably not gonna get updated?

I dunno. I don't plan on using win 10 for now.

 

Up to you, all active resellers here are great options depending on what you are looking for. My personal choice is GentechPC

 

The new gt80's probably come with Windows 10

 

I guess they don't have to be close, its all in how you like to handle things. If one was close to me I would try and forge that relationship for sure but for me I don't need anyone messing about it just ship it so NewEgg always has worked out fine and no tax with them either.

They prob will come with Win10, yuck.

 

Yep, all new machines will most likely ship with win 10 by now.

My issues with windows 10 were not huge but I simply saw no real improvement as to upgrade to windows 10. I use win 10 on my work laptop and it's not really that different than what I have now with 8.1, specially since I don't use all the connected things like cortana, the cloud, etc etc.

 

Yup, Win10 is everywhere, thus why it will be difficult to obtain machines with Win8.1 now.

 

Kevin@GenTechPC, that's where the laptop special configuration resellers come to the rescue

 

mason2smart, close enough to drive over, walk in, and look them in the eye while I make my purchase.

Then while I am still there, unbox the laptop in their service area for customers, so I can make sure everything works before I leave. If something isn't correct, they can correct it there before I go, or give me another replacement from stock.

Then when I need something else, I can drive over, walk in, and they know who I am and are happy to see me, and I can look them in the eye again, and thank them for their hard work

Nothing better than a local relationship and place to go for what you need, while there are still places like this in existence.

Next, we are going to have drones facing us down in our driveways

 

*coughs*

 

As someone who has Radial Neuropathy(Saturday night palsy) and Trigger finger syndrome, will the keyboard layout/lack of palm rest pose a problem for me?

Is typing without the gel palm rest doable? Or is it pretty much required? Is it possible to type while sitting upright with a bed table?

 

Risechi, any fixed position might be uncomfortable in your situation; raising your arms to reach a bed table could get tiresome.

I use a separate wireless keyboard / trackpad all in one that I can sit in any position, and move around as I move, it's light and easy to get in a comfortable position.

That lets me put the laptop on a stand that sits at 45', raising the screen high enough that I don't need to look down at it, or up, and I can adjust the position and not worry about the keyboard / trackpad access.

There are a lot of choices, but this is the one I settled on:

Logitech Wireless Touch Keyboard K400
http://www.logitech.com/product/wireless-touch-keyboard-k400r

They are about $25 from BestBuy on sale, which comes around often.

If you were at a desk, I would recommend other wired keyboards, but for working from a bed, wires get in the way.

There is another one I have been meaning to try, it's a wireless Cherry MX keyboard

 

Only my right hand has both of those problems, specifically my middle, ring and pinky fingers. They tend to lock up on certain positions/postures. It's not that bad (for now lol)

Won't getting a wireless mechanical keyboard or any mechanical keyboard kill the purpose of the GT80?

I prefer playing in the bed, sitting upright or lying down on chest because I already sit infront of a desk when im at work lol

So the palm rest is pretty much required?

 

Risechi, not for me, I didn't find it at all odd, but then again I have used such tall laptop keyboards before with the trackpad to the right. Regular keyboards don't have wrist rests built in, and I don't add them.

The keyboard is great, the wrist rest is helpful, you can try both ways and see what you like.

Remember to put the laptop on a stiff board / book to keep it from sinking into the bed covers, as that would block the air intakes below. 10lb's is pretty heavy, and you are going to need a wood plank or large coffee table book as a base.

There are wireless Cherry MX Keyboards, but they don't come with a built-in trackpad, and they are heavy. I found a couch / bed keyboard needs to be light otherwise it sinks into the bed.

For me the keyboard wasn't the draw, it was the SLI 980m's + 18" screen in a more compact and lighter laptop than the AW solution. The Cherry MX keyboard is a bonus

 

MSI's global site has specs for the GT72 Dominator series. http://www.msi.com/product/notebook/#?category=GT Series

Everything with a "6Q" designation has a Skylake CPU, but they don't specify which CPU. They just list each one generically as having the "Latest 6th Gen. Intel® Core™ i7 processor."

Sadly, no Skylake GT80 Titan yet, but maybe the GT72 specs will give us an idea of what's to come.

 

sigh the dominator series only 1 pcie ssd no raid of multiple. i guess they really didnt' want to change the mobo design all that much to not spend money lol.

 

The S model can ship with 2 in raid, we are still unsure about expandability in the other models. We will just have to wait and see.

 

Where do I find my Windows 8 cd key? I installed fresh Windows 10 before checking to see if the laptop had the key on it and it doesn't. I looked through the packaging material the box came with and it didn't have anything either. Can someone please help? Thanks

 

I don't suppose anyone's got any advice for my situation here then? I don't know if suppliers or company reps would be able to point me where to go?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...n-owners-lounge.769092/page-312#post-10092680

 

Ever since the appearance of windows 8, you don't get your key physically. It is embedded in your computer so it automatically knows if your windows installation is valid.

 

The new mechanism has been in place since the release of Windows 8.
You can use AIDA64 which will allow you to find the key in the BIOS.

http://www.aida64.com/
Route:
AIDA64 -> Motherboard -> ACPI -> MSDM.

 

Well, you won't loose your warranty with MSI just because you take off your warranty sticker. That has been confirmed by MSI Geno over the forums several times already.

I don't know what could be causing the sound though. I do advise trying to take the system apart. I remember that that side has a particular black tape near the fan and heatsink. Maybe the black tape is loose and is being hit against the fan?

 

not bad, no more limited on upgrading ram and re-doing thermal paste on the gt80 titan.

 

and also dependent on the mobile chipset does it not? HM107 or w/e its gonna be called may not support pcie raid via chipset..

 

Yep there are two chipsets. All support pcie and sata according to specs but only one of them will support raid between pcie drives.

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T_T have to carefully choose laptop then.

 

I have ran 4.2 and 4.3ghz without issue so I am not worried.

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was asking Gentech if they would be willing to put CLU on the titan but they said it could void manufacturer warranty. Is this true?

 

Not that I am aware, only if they mucked it up.

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they were very vague about the student discount as well.

 

invited u to the conversation

 

The key phrase is that it could so they don't want to be responsible so I partially understand.

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Which reseller should I buy from?

In particular I want, for my 3600, no dead pixels, good support, etc...I homeschool, anyone offer homeschool discounts?

 

The only way to fully be 100% certain there are no pixels you would need a zero dead pixel policy. Honestly i think the chances of dead pixels are low but it happens. I have never used a policy like that and of all my machines only 1 ever had a single dead pixel.



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I have had it twice on alienware 18's and once on a lcd monitor.

 

Vague how?

Also CLU is a great responsibility which is why almost no one offers it to begin with.

Unleass you are dead set on using clu i would get ICD. I much preffer putting clu myself because i have enough time to follow instructions and do trial and error. ClU involves putting and brushing carefully without spilling on both the core and the heatsink. If not properly applied you can short something.

Too much of a risk for companies that sell a lot of volume and have time against them.

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mason2smart, CLU is conductive, and no matter how careful you are, some might drip out over time - I run my laptops at an angle vs flat and gravity / heat / time can work out a drip or two if you aren't lucky.

From what I have read, all the people that have re-pasted their GT80's haven't really had any benefit from it. Maybe someone will speak up if they did and we can see whether it is worth the effort or not.

The GT80 is a hand-built special low volume laptop, and MSI isn't going to let it go out with thermal issues.

Even under load my CPU / GPU temperatures low enough, with no thermal throttling, so I haven't considered asking MSI to re-paste it for me, or thought of doing it myself.

In the case of a working / new GT80, I wouldn't think any added copper shims or improved paste is going to make any significant difference.

 

ryzeki, did you repaste your GT80 yet? If you have, what kind of temperature improvements did you notice for CPU/GPU idle/load?

 

Only IDC i have not tried CLU yet. My temps are 80s for CPU with peak of 90 depending on how demanding and how hot the weather is, and my GPUs typically in the 60s and 70s. Demanding games do make one of my GPUe reach 80.

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ryzeki, that is what I am getting on stock paste

Did you note the original temps and the improvements from re-pasting?

 

I use it without regret. My temps are posted from all my tests with no voodoo cooling.

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Just a couple of degrees honestly. MSI tends to err on the safe side so they tend to put too much paste sometimes.

Since my ambient temps are on the hot side as well it did helpe enough for me not to worry playing any game.

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GTVEVO, as I recall reading, you re-pasted your GT80 and didn't get that much of an improvement, what do you recommend?

 

When I ran 16900 firestrike it was with clu at less than 90c with 4.3ghz clock. I don't think I have seen any other haswell come close in the gt80. I have posted many tests with clu showing prob 5 to 6 c modest improvement over stock paste or icd. The stock paste is very good and icd showed little to no improvement compared to it.

Looked it up, 4.2ghz at 85c during firestrike bench. But several others are out there in the 3dmark test and tune thread with temps screenshot.

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ryzeki, when you cleaned off the MSI compound from the GT80 before you put on the ICD, did it seem like they put on too much?

If you only saw a couple of degrees improvement with ICD, within the limits of measurement / ambient temps, it might not be any improvement.

At least you know for sure you are getting the best temps now

 

This looks interesting, and it won't drip, dry out over time, or react with aluminum / copper:

CoolLab Metalpad - Coollaboratory Liquid MetalPad
http://www.coollaboratory.com/en/products/liquid-metalpad/

"The Coollaboratory Liquid MetalPad ist the first heat conduction pad, which is composed of 100% metal and melts with just less heating (BurnIn-process), then it confects its superior heat transfer. It dissipates the heat fast and efficiently and needn´t hide from the best heat conduction paste.

The simple, clean and fast installation turns the Liquid MetalPad into the ultimate heat conduction medium for HighEnd PCs and game consoles.

The Liquid MetalPad can be used with all on the cooling market commercially available materials, for instance aluminum or copper!

It doesn´t age and doesn´t have to re-apply regularly. The Coollaboratory Liquid MetalPad is RoHS conformable and absolute nontoxic."

One of the main issues with re-pasting yourself, with enthusiast pastes, is that the paste can dry out and require regular re-application to provide adequate cooling on an on going basis.

The new OEM pastes that come with your laptop harden after application to provide a barrier against the paste drying out over time.

The OEM paste will last years, and if done correctly to start, will provide a good temperature under idle/load that never needs "fixing".

The enthusiast pastes dry out over time, usually due to poor coverage, poor fitting of components that open up the paste to the air to dry out quicker than normal, and most people once they have applied the paste, keep re-applying it every 3-6-9-12 months.

For a few degrees of improvement, I will optimize myself out of the loop and leave well enough alone.

One less thing to do on a repeating basis is good enough for me.

But, then again, I have done it so many times, I have worked out the need to do it again and again, again.

If you still enjoy doing it yourself, have fun