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So i should have them apply this? or should i just stick with the OEM aste

 

mason2smart, I would start out not adding or changing anything from MSI stock parts, and let the GT80 run for a week or two.

Let any early component failures occur first before adding variables that could cloud debugging later.

I know it is natural to want to tweak it all out right away, but some laptops do come with problems, some that you won't notice the first time you, or they, power it up.

I generally run a burn in for a few days first, but I have done this before and know what I am looking for, and can find the failures quickly.

But, even I miss things when I rush through, so I make an effort to enjoy the laptop for a couple of weeks before making any major changes.

That slows me down and lets me observe how the laptop reacts to load over a couple of weeks.

Something to consider is if you get a bunch of mods to a laptop you configure from a boutique shop, you may not be able to get MSI service directly again, and you will need to only go through the boutique that configured it for you.

As far as changing the thermal compound before you even test it, that would be like seasoning food before tasting it

If you are going to go through the trouble to re-paste, I would first get a baseline measurement of CPU/GPU temps under idle / load at 70F (or close to it), so you know for a fact whether the re-pasting actually helps, or makes it worse.

Even if you do get a few degree's of improvement from re-pasting, it really isn't worth the long term commitment for re-pasting, at least for me.

Those few degree's are likely never going to translate into a make or break benefit or improvement - you aren't going to be able to notice the performance improvement of dropping a few degree's.

So, no I wouldn't suggest having them crack open your laptop, rip out all the cooling, and replace the already perfectly good thermal paste

 

Hey everyone! Few questions.
If you order from a reseller like Xotic/Gentech, do you get the backpack with the GT80?
Do you have a preferred reseller? If so, why?
If you order a model with fewer than 4 M.2 SSDs, is it missing components to install them or does it have all the mounting/interface parts included?
When does Intel officially release Skylake-H and are there any embargoes that are about to be lifted?

Thanks!

 

Sorry to jump in here, but what software do you use to run your burn-in? I would like to do the same to my GT80 when I get it.

Thanks

 

Ben_, start with the benchmark programs, make sure you make it through them fully without flaky video, or thermal throttling - watch / log temps with hwinfo64.

Benchmarks like the futuremark.com series, Unigine Heaven / Valley, furmark - many don't like this, but I have used it for a long time so I am used to interpreting / comparing results.

For burn-in, I would start with 15 minutes of furmark + prime95 - simultaneous running. I wouldn't do this with a thin laptop, only the GT80, GT72, etc.

For longer term, I use either BIONC CPU/GPU tasks - easiest to set up and run with an account through BAM (BOINC account manager), it lets me install / configure in a few minutes with all my subscribed projects in play.

Stanford's Fah takes a few minutes longer to set up the Secure Key, and enable the CPU / GPU's - takes a couple of restarts, but this one is the one I fire up weekly to watch for temperature changes.

Note that over time you might get different job mixes for both Fah and BIONC. Always note the task running when recording temps.

As a reference, I am running Fah, at 78F ambient, CPU at 100% 83-86c (core variance), GPU's at 100% 57c and 65c, Toshiba M.2's 52c, and Samsung 840 38c.

 

Hi all
I was installing windows 7 on my GT-80, installed and everything ok with the drivers and all. however, once I shut it down it won't turn on, no led, no fans, its just dead !

Any suggestion?

Some suggest clearing the CMOS, can be that done without voiding the warranty ( sticker in the back ) ?

 

You won't void the warranty unless you damage something physically during the process.

 

Well then, I've placed my order now.

Might arrive next week on the 26th or 27th, only for a price of a used car lol

Thanks for all the help, you've literally helped me decide between this and the Dellienware.

Only worry now is hopefully the small presence of msi in my country doesn't come back to bite me should i need support.

 

Some great advise here for the new owners. Thanks for covering.

Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk

 

Yea but I live in Texas - it's always hot here

 

Also I'm not sure my parents would let me add ssd myself - don't I have to reload the is when I do that?

 

mason2smart, you can do it

It's easy. Get a 32GB USB 3.0 flash drive, use MSI BurnRecovery to create a recovery boot drive.

Take out the 2 M.2 SSD's, one screw each (don't lose the screw, or drop it in the computer), put them aside, and put in your M.2 drives - the empty slots have screws already in them - take them out before plugging in the new M.2 drives.

Power up into the BIOS, go to the Advanced Tab, and create the RAID0 - add all the M.2 drives you installed, create the volume - press the button - it's not hard.

Then, plug in the 32GB USB 3.0 boot recovery flash drive and boot on it, restore the recovery OS on to the the RAID0, the rest is easy

 

Do I have to remove the seal to swap ssd? Also I would need screws for the ssd?

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FJ...dicator+18&dpPl=1&dpID=41p+HBzllKL&ref=plSrch

I was thinking of getting this case for it? Will it fit?

 

mason2smart, there is 1 screw that you need to pull, both to remove the top access panel as well as the bottom panel, that screw hole has a sticker on it - push your Phillips head screw driver through it, and unscrew it - then 1 more to remove - labeled with an icon near the corner. Then the top access panel slides off.

You only void the warranty if you mess up physically. Don't drop anything into the computer, don't spill a drink into it, don't forget to unplug the computer from the wall and power it off before unplugging SSD's.

 

What exactly is Newegg's return policy compared to that of other companies such as Amazon?

 

mason2smart, IDK, check the dimensions of both models and see if it will measure out - I think the AW18 is thicker - but not sure if the MSI is wider.

I think we already discussed all this

You don't want to carry 2 backpacks, but really the MSI GT80 backpack is perfect for carry / protection, and books will fit in many kinds of satchels / bags for the hand carry.

Get digital books

 

mason2smart, call newegg and ask

newegg will charge a 15% restocking fee unless there is something wrong with the laptop, and may require RMA to the vendor for the fix - but also will swap for a new one.

You really need to call and talk nicely to both newegg and Amazon for the current info, it changes from time to time.

If you use Amazon Prime, you will be able to return without trouble, and I believe it is 60-90 days return, again call and ask a Prime support person - it's worth the $99 for Prime if you don't have it, and Amazon did/does have a Student rate.

 

What about ordering stock from a reseller for the 3% cash back. Anyone try that?

 

I read somewhere that I can carefully scrape the seal off and reapply it for support when sending the computer in. Can anyone confirm this?

 

That would be unethical and unnecessary, the VOID WARRANTY sticker is there if you mess up, if you are adding/upgrading your drives / memory that is ok.

If you are hacking in water cooling, MSI doesn't want to see it

If you do send in for RMA, or when you send it in to upgrade your GPU's, it is recommended you pull your memory and drives, and put in the original parts. That way you don't lose your data or memory.

 

This one worked for the 18" Asus W90vp-x1, and it is a nice case, that doesn't say "Hey, Steal Me, I Have a $6k Alienware Laptop in Me!!"

Kenneth Cole Reaction 18.4-Inch Top Zip Portfolio / Notebook Case (536735)
http://www.amazon.com/Kenneth-Cole-18-4-Inch-Portfolio-536735/dp/B0033KPVKS/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1442760823&sr=8-7&keywords=18"+laptop+case

 

btw i always wanted to ask, anyway for that red color keyboard change to white?

 

unityole, sorry, individual red led illumination, per key.

 

Will, I reset the cmos ( by disconnecting the cables under the ssd, then power, reconnect and power on again), nothing happened.

My gt80 still dead, any advise?

 

It's a risk vs benefit equation on this one, sticking with IC diamond offers almost all the performance with none of the risk.

 

Yeah but if u screw up I get to name u!


Just kidding

 

You get to name me and say you could not quite match what I have done?

 

Any idea when the skylake version of the titan will be available to order?

 

I don't think there has been an announcement of a GT80 with skylake, or at least that I have seen (please post links if I've missed something). So no dates as of yet.

 

Post 3135, at 1:38

 

They hid it in a youtube video!

 

We do include all accessories that come included from MSI like the backpack, wrist rest, key caps etc.

All m.2 slots and hardware to mount them are included regardless of your starting configuration.

 

Hmm... I guess I fell asleep on that one. I saw the link to the video but must have not paid that much attention on it. Thanks for pointing it out.

 

It could be released around September 27th which is when i think the other models will be released and shipped out

 

guess i'll wait a few days

 

Guys, Samsung announced their 950 Pro M.2 PCIe x4 NVMe product, and also announced 1TB versions of it and the 850 Evo M.2 for 2016 - to use the 3rd gen 3D V-NAND.

Samsung Announces 950 Pro SSD, Their First Consumer V-NAND + NVMe SSD
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9650/samsung-announces-950-pro-ssd-their-first-consumer-vnand-nvme-ssd

Spoiler

Samsung Details 3rd Gen V-NAND Rollout: 4TB 850 Pro, 1TB 850 EVO M.2, & More In 2016
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9652/...llout-4tb-850-pro-1tb-850-evo-m2-more-in-2016

"...the M.2 850 EVO, which currently tops out at 512GB, will be getting its own upgrade to 1TB via 3rd generation TLC V-NAND.


"Speaking of M.2, the newly announced 950 Pro will also get a capacity bump in 2016. A 1TB model will be released next year, utilizing the 256Gbit V-NAND MLC to double the capacity of the drive."

I hope the new V-NAND and controller will run cooler...

 

the 950 looks promising considering its not waaay overpriced

 

Hopefully they will be offering ddr4 ram. It will probably still come with ddr3L b/c MSI will be trying to save money and clear out old stock.

 

mason2smart, I updated my post about that video, if you watch closely, the PCIe speed graphic morphs into a DDR4 vs DDR3 graphic, so it looks like the GT80 with Skylake will have DDR4 memory

 

The GT80 is going to offer 2 x 980 "Desktop" SLI, according to this article:

Nvidia's Crazy Fast Desktop GPU Coming to Laptops
http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/nvidia-desktop-gpus-gaming-laptops

"The laptops scheduled to receive this ambitious upgrade include the Aorus X7 DT, Clevo P870DM, Clevo P775DM, ASUS GX700v0 and the MSI GT72 Dominator. MSI's monstrous GT80 Titan SLI is also getting the chips, which means you get a pair of desktop GPUs in SLI configuration, in a laptop. Just let that sink in."

Desktop NVIDIA GTX 980 Coming To Gaming Notebooks
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9649/nvidia-gtx-980-in-notebooks

"MSI should be first out of the gate with a new model of both the GT72 and the GT80 which will offer GTX 980 in SLI"

Nvidia announces GeForce GTX 980 for notebooks
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-announces-GeForce-GTX-980-for-notebooks.150756.0.html

"Despite the inevitable high price tag, Nvidia has mentioned a number of OEM partners and designs, including the Gigabyte/Aorus (X7 DT), the Asus (GX700VO), the MSI (GT72, GT80) and the Clevo (P870DM). All models will support G-Sync and no Optimus except for the MSI GT80. In return, this massive MSI model will be the only notebook capable of supporting GTX 980 in SLI. The first notebooks with the GTX 980 GPU will come by the end of this month."

World's Fastest Mobile GPU - Full GM204 GTX 980 for Notebooks


Nvidia Laptop GTX 980 - FULL Desktop Gaming in a Laptop


NVIDIA Desktop GTX 980... In a Notebook?!


GeForce GTX 980s are Coming to Laptops! - Shows GT80 briefly

 

Maybe this is why the GT80 hasn't been announced just yet with skylake, I can only hope so, thanks hmscott for the post of info.

 

GTVEVO, it's pretty exciting

I wonder if MSI will offer the 980 SLI as an upgrade for us 980m SLI owners? It would be about a 30% performance improvement.

With Pascal 9-12 months away it might be worth while if it isn't too expensive.

What wattage power supply is going to drive that 980 SLI GT80? A 2 x 330w would be cumbersome. Maybe MSI will bring out a 500w power supply?

My other concern is, what is the cost of the GT80 with 980 SLI going to be?

$3699 for the 980m would be $4800 if MSI scales the price 30% to match the performance improvement. Add another $200 for the 500w power supply, and we are at $5000.

 

You are exactly right, I really feel a new power supply (higher phase) will be developed as they stated especially if an SLI version is released, this could happen now or down the road but it was mentioned in the video. With this being new tech I do expect the price to make a jump so this scares me along with the question of "Will they release an SLI version due to power and heat requirements?" without getting outside everyone's price point target. Just lots of questions in my mind now on top of the 6820hk.

 

It can be with a single 980 and the new proc, and they will keep every things as it is now

 

ZoOLf, MSI might do a single GPU 980 model GT80, they did do a single 980m model, but the press coverage mentions from a couple of sources that MSI will offer an SLI 980 through the GT80.

 

One quick search and "SLI" right beside it, with the addition of an HK CPU it will be like holiday.

 

Technically that will be not so easy, due to the hight temp, but lets hope ,
I just wonder how the GT80 will manage to effectively cool 2 980 in sli.
Wait and see

 

ZoOLf, the cooling is going to be ok, at 100% load the 980m SLI OC'd in my GT80 SLI-263 is 57c/67c - even +20c would be still be good.

 

so the new 980 is gonna be great, i'm curious about the current gen (haswell actually) and Oculus compatability. the current 980m sli config easily generates the minimum 3dmark scores necessary for vr gaming. but will Oculus keep laptop owners with the 9xxm cards from being able to use the final retail units with these laptops? its one of the main reasons i did not return my titan.