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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. GTVEVO

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    I am thinking and hoping an msi anniversary series gt80 980. Dreaming here.

    Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk
     
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    GTX 980 driver is now listed under mobile on nvidias site !!! woot woot
     
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    How about a gt80 dragon edition with multicolor programmable mechanical keyboard!
    That would be nice!
     
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    The gt72 980 is expected to be released by mid October (2 weeks)
     
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    So I accidentally dropped my phone on my keyboard, leaving what seems to be a scratch or chipped paint on my "K" Key :(

    Should i just deal with it? Or is there anyway to fix or atleast make it less noticeable.

    Also ever since I've updated my graphics drivers, my Machine gets a black screen after the msi logo during start up and is unable to wake up from sleep properly.
     
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    Is it really that easy to scratch? do they have a rubberized coating? Pls upload a photo so we can see.
     
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    I am unstable with the latest nvidia drivers as well. I use 353.62 as my lastest drivers with zero issues. 355.80 worked but still unstable.

    Nope, only had to reinstall once. Check if the option of tap to click is enabled. I had to disable and then enable, reboot and no more issues. This was around 7 months ago haha :) no issues since.

    If it really bothers you, you can order a full replacement keyboard, but that is too much of a cost for a mere key. You could always try buying stickies that have the keyboard letters and cover it up if you want.

    As for drivers, try rolling back. I am also unstable with the latest nvidia drivers.
     
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    I wouldn't say it is easy. A phone is still an up to 200grams or more if it has a case, plus it might have hit directly with the phone's corner over the key itself.

    My keyboard is in mint condition and I have used mine since February of this year.
     
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    hi I'm posting again because I did not have help
    1 - Great Reasons to Move to windwos 10 will lose performance?
    2- The win drivers 8.1 64 work in win 10?
    3- at startup the RAID screen I always have to get 2 x because the first foray recognizes the sequence 1-ssd-2 HD 3-ssd to later recognize the right order 1-ssd ssd 2-3-HD how to solve this?
    4- Some configuration Intel XTU to undertvolting, for I know not deal much with it
    5- still use sound blaster switch to Nahimic is better?
    Excuse the English do not know if this correct
     
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    How/Where do I order a Keyboard replacement? I live in japan, so I'm not sure if it's available :(
     
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    1 - There are mixed reviews on 10. Some like some of the new features, like the tiles in start button. But some don't like the privacy settings and data reporting to MS. You shouldn't lose performance by using 10 though.
    2 - Depends on the model you are getting, 10 drivers should be available. Otherwise you can use 8.1, or get drivers from manufacturer's site (like if you need wireless card drivers, check their site).
    3 - Have you tried changing the boot settings in the BIOS?
    4 - I haven't messed with XTU on a GT80, might want to see if someone else can help with that one here.
    5 - Try Nahimic out, see if you like it better yourself.


    Try your closest regional MSI service center and see if they can help you with that.

    http://us.msi.com/page/service-location-all
     
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    Visit this page.
    http://jp.msi.com/about/contact-us
     
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    some of these laptop sales guys need to give us some info lol. there a chance GT80 comes with skylake xoticpc?
     
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    Thanks guys, just registered my product and will attempt to contact them soon.

    Now I know this has been asked to death, but any tips on undervolting a 4980hq? Mine is reach high 80s in Witcher 3 which is quite worrying considering my Gpus stay at high 50s at most.

    Also why are some programs reporting my 980ms to having only 4gb vram? Wth?
     
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    Yeah, the GT80 will have skylake. I haven't heard of any dates on it yet though.

     
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    I too am getting random black screens on the newest nvidia driver (355.98). This time, I get no error code in event viewer for this one. I just have to do a hard reset after the black screen. Sleep seems to be where this issue manifests itself the most. Although I would still get a blackscreen occasionally after a fresh boot on 355.98. So it does'nt seem directly related to sleep. Then again I would get complete stability after a fresh reboot (hours usage including gaming (Starcraft2 ARK Witcher3), running VMs, PHP, java development). At least on the previous bugged driver versions (355.60, 355.82), I would get an error code "Event ID 14" in event viewer. I reverted back to 353.49 where I can go into and out of sleep with no problems.
     
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    When I upgraded to 355.98, I stopped getting as many error code 14s, but rather was getting black screens followed by having to reboot by holding the power button. That said, I decided to grep on the actual unexpected reboot event within event viewer as well. It seems that error code 14 still happened during the last 353.49, just didn't get any reboots or errors during the user experience that I know of or noticed.

    Date DriverVersion Outcome
    ========== ============= =======================================
    2015-06-21 353.06 error-code-14 0 times, non-clean reboot 1 time
    2015-06-23 353.30 error-code-14 105 times, non-clean reboot 2 times
    2015-08-03 353.62 stable: error-code-14 0 times, non-clean reboot 0 times
    2015-08-14 355.60 error-code-14 5 times, non-clean reboot 10 times
    2015-08-28 353.49 stable: error-code-14 0 times, non-clean reboot 0 times
    2015-09-04 355.82 error-code-14 4 times, non-clean reboot 6 times
    2015-09-11 353.49 perceived as stable: error-code-14 80 times, non-clean reboot 0 times
    2015-09-25 355.98 error-code-14 3 times, non-clean reboot 9 times
    2015-10-03 353.49 present

    FYI:
    First I created in event viewer with custom XML filter, then I added this filter in a PS script:
    <<START c:\nv\nvlddmkm.ps1>>
    $Query = @"
    <QueryList>
    <Query Id="0" Path="System">
    <Select Path="System">*[UserData[InstallDeviceID[@xmlns = ' http://manifests.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/windows/userpnp'][DriverDescription='NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M ']] or System[Provider[@Name='nvlddmkm'] and (EventID=14)] or System[Provider[@Name='EventLog'] and (EventID=6008)]]</Select>
    </Query>
    </QueryList>
    "@
    $events = Get-WinEvent -FilterXml $Query
    ForEach ($Event in $Events) {
    # Convert the event to XML
    $eventXML = [xml]$Event.ToXml()
    Add-Member -InputObject $Event -MemberType NoteProperty -Force -Name DriverVersion -Value $eventXML.Event.UserData.InstallDeviceID.DriverVersion
    Add-Member -InputObject $Event -MemberType NoteProperty -Force -Name Data -Value $eventXML.Event.EventData.Data
    }
    $Events | Select TimeCreated, Id, DriverVersion, ProviderName, @{Name="MessageData";Expression={$_.Message + $_.Data}} | Out-GridView
    pause
    <<FINISH c:\nv\nvlddmkm.ps1>>

    And ran it with this cmd file:
    <<START c:\nvlddmkm.cmd>>
    powershell.exe -executionpolicy bypass "& 'C:\nv\nvlddmkm.ps1'"
    <<FINISH c:\nv\nvlddmkm.cmd>>
     
  18. hmscott

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    hoofhearted, due to many years of bad drivers, OS bugs, application / network interference issues, I gave up on using Sleep or Hibernation.

    If I need to shutdown to move my laptop, I save my work, and VM's save my state.

    I don't need to sleep or hibernate, so I can disable it and gain some additional stability. Usually sleep/hibernate is all that is causing instability once drivers / OS bugs get worked out - that sweet spot between upgrades.

    Just for fun, give it a try, and see if your black screen / freezes stop on the latest 355.98. I don't have any such issues. And, if your drivers are up to date, as well as OS updates, we will have the same configuration. I am thinking you should be stable without Sleep/Hibernate enabled.

    Disabling Hibernate will also end Fast Startup and "Slow" Shutdown. :)

    In an Administrator cmd window:

    powercfg /h off

    or, if you get an error, use this instead:

    powershell -Command "Start-Process 'powercfg.exe' -Verb runAs -ArgumentList '/h off'"

    You can also remove Sleep from the shutdown options, if that will help stop you from wanting to use it:

    disable Sleep option in Power Options - configure buttons.JPG

    IDK if it's related, but I also have stopped using paging/vm long ago, I have it set to "No paging file":

    System control panel - advanced tab - performance options - virtual memory.JPG



    Reboot, and see if that helps.
     
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    Thanks. I depend too much on sleep though. And yes, when I was on 355.98 I would get the blackscreen after coming out of sleep, then do a fresh reboot, then I would get good stability. I did on one occasion (this morning) get the blackscreen after a fresh reboot, but that was definitely rare, if not the only time. For now, I am on 353.49 just out of sleep and everything is fine.
     
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    I'm looking at getting a gt80 with 980m's, is the extra copper cooling worth it? How much cooling do you get out of it?
     
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    What do you mean? What is this extra copper cooling?
     
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    If GPUz identifies your GPU as having 8GB of vram, then you can be sure of it. Other programs read data incorrectly.

    Your temps of high 80s are fine actually. Undervolting can be achieved with intel XTU, it would be advised to slowly reduce the dynamic coltage little by little, to test stability under normal usage, gaming and stressing.

    But so far your temps seem okay for the CPU and superb for the GPUs. My CPU can reach 90s if pushed hard, and my GPUs reach between 70 and 80s if running things like witcher 3 ultra no vsync.

    The only hot running part would be the CPU and since it does not have a dedicated cooling fan, I am not sure extra copper would help much.
     
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    Placing copper blocks along the heatsink to increase area and thus effective cooling. It works better if you have more airflow in the area where you place the copper so that you can dissipate more heat.
     
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    Handmade? Or what?
     
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    You can buy them off in different stores, as well as a couple of resellers offering the upgrade if you want it. In some notebooks it does helps, while in others not so much.
     
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    Can you point me an example (link or private message)? Thanks in advance!
     
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    If the new drivers dont seem to work right? will they work properly or be unstable on the new GT80 when it comes out?
     
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    use throttlestop, lower the frequency of turbo boost for CPU during gaming, setup your own profile, by far the best tool rather than setting battery profile as you don't know what microsoft do to the rest of your machine lol, unless you wanna go through and learn pages of registry and what to do with each change.
     
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    FYI throttle stop does not work on the GT80 it has no affect at all. With the 4980 undervolt -62.5mv and leave the clocks alone and it will hold during testing for 40+ sec wide open and will not throttle in 99.9% of games. The only game I have seen TDP thottle is Project cars on ultra during a race (15-20 players) with active rain storm. If you do have a throttle issue roll back to 3.7ghz and undervolt more get your TDP down.
     
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    throttlestop doesnt work on gt80? what version of throttlestop u guys using? i have like 7 different laptops, throttlestop work on all of them and i choose it over XTU. I only use XTU if its amps/voltage related as its able to do tiny changes, however throttlestop is more accurate on readings if accompanied with a good unlocked bios.
     
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    dual psu pls and thanks. its got pretty much everything we could ask for except for a bulker CPU heatsink, and dual psu config.

    also, it seems 4 SATA M.2 SSDs got replaced by 2 PCIE 3.0 x4 lanes NVMe SSDs, that leaves other 2 SATA M.2 Slot open but I dont see any connectors, chance for a mod?
     
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    This is in Intel XTU right? Sorry, been out of the game for quite a while and this is all new stuff to me lol

    I tried looking for guides and they all mention tweaking around Dynamic Core/Cache Offset, which I can't find in XTU. Is it Core/Cache Offet Voltage the same thing?

    Also to lower boost speed I just lower those x40/x39/x38/x38 Core modifiers?
     
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    Right in XTU I have highlighted in yellow the two settings that I change, the "Dynamic CPU Voltage Offset" I always set -55 to -62.5. Others have been able to find some improved by undervolting the "Processor cache Voltage Offset" under the Cache menu in addition.

    upload_2015-10-4_9-33-57.png
     
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    In that case the 3,699 edition will probably get the 980 sli! :) That's less expensive that we originally speculated!
     
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    Still it isn't on MSI's site though... Maybe it was an accidental posting?
     
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    No Thunderbolt 3? That's a tad disappointing!
     
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    Usually vendors are faster to get things posted in previous releases, that would be nice if the desktop 980 edition was the same price as the top models before.
     
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    Really? I don't think it's really needed on a machine like this.
     
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    IMO we will not see a 980 sli in the current gt80
     
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    Questions
    Confirm mechanic HD bay is now SATA3
    Are there still 4 SSD slots and are they all SATA3
    Hummmmm wow Nvidia seems to think so. What info do you have proving otherwise? In other words MSI has already applied and has approval to do so. I don't think they will waste it.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I sad: in my opinion i think we need another chassis of gt80
     
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    I see, understandable. Everything is always better the 2nd time around, as long as its easy to service like it is today I am game.
     
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    Perhaps not for gaming, but I use external SSDs a fair amount for audio work, and not even having USB 3.1 is a bit of a letdown. Plus, who knows what other peripherals might come out in the next four years or so? It's just nice to have a bit of future-proofing.
     
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    It is possible that they may add USB 3.1 later, but only MSI knows for sure.
    It would be nice when a product is future-proof for at least one year ahead.
     
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    Seems as though they redid the chassis though and slimmed it by 16%?
     
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    Xotic pc pulled the gt80 263 from their site
     
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    usb 3.1 would be nice, only problem is it'll run off chipset and chipset dmi 3.0 being used by pcie nvme ssds in raid 0 under full load, usb 3.1 performance will be that of a harddrive of performance or worse, OR it'll just take bandwidth from existing dmi 3.0 and raid performance would decrease =/

    good thing though, dmi 3.0 is both read/write unlike sata so its not so bad.
     
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    The specs don't say it has wireless AC or bluerooth 4.1?
     
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