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I'm speaking behind the rep. Sooo. Hold that for what it is. But it seems they are going push 10 for everything.

 

kfxsti, that is to be expected, that is their ongoing future revenue stream, they are commissioned to put the Windows 10 eye's and ear's into every PC

But, that doesn't mean we need to fall for it.

 

Microsoft forum??? Where is the gt80

 

ZoOLf, where's the GT80 Skylake 980 SLI ??!!

 

This ^^^^

 

No i want to talk about the gt 80 not microsoft


With all my respect of course

 

ZoOLf, that's why I posted the Windows 10 forum / thread URL's, so the Windows 10 conversation would move to them, instead of being off topic here, but I guess it wasn't a big enough hint

There doesn't seem to be any GT80 talk right now, how about you or someone else bring something(s) up?

But, I am getting tired of the "where is the GT80 SLI 980" questions, maybe we talk about something else until it's released?

Like... Windows 10 ?

 

Nice one

 

ill leave my comment for myself on those posts.

 

Haha dont be evil

 

Can anyone confirm if the gt80 supports Miracasting? (streaming from pc to android tv) If so, does it support 4k miracasting?

 

Guys, enough Windows 10 fights. Some people like it, some don't. Windows 10 is not a savior nor the one OS to rule them all.

mason2smart I don't think GT80 supports miracast, or at least I haven't seen it anywhere nor tried it. Not to worry though, because we have a myriad of systems and hardware that can handle the "cast" part haha.

 

Why do I get poor performance on Witcher 3?

I'm using 353.62 and on the latest update of the game.

I have everything set on max except for hairworks, which is disabled.

My fps fluctuates between 39-60 and get horrible stuttering.

Any ideas?

 

Monitor your temps and % usage for your GPUs and CPU. Also, make sure you are running in full screen and not on Borderless Screen.

 

Is the new Battlefront driver safe? did nvidia fix their issues?

 

This installation worked perfectly for me. I tried multiple times on the 1.1.56.1572, with multiple reboots, and it always failed on the part for the 1525.

On a different topic, and this is just info from a casual GT80 user (not rehashing the Win10 argument), but I have had the consistently inconsistent Win10 freezing requiring a hard reboot ever since I updated (on or about August 29th). I'm currently up to date on all of the drivers including the Killer mentioned here, the drivers and utilities on the MSI website, and NVIDIA 358.50. I do my best to stay up to date in hopes of the magical update that stops the freezing, but no luck yet (I missed the Killer update between 1.1.56.1572 and 1.1.56.1590). The freezing is random and has occurred in games and while browsing. Nothing shows in the event viewer (except Event ID 41, which is pretty generic). If I had to guess, it freezes about once every other day. I do a mix of sleeps and full power downs. I haven't been able to pinpoint anything specific causing it.

That is the only issue I have had with Win10, not that it's a minor issue, but everything else is working for me.

If I get bored in the next couple of days I might try a clean install, as I'm still on the upgrade from 8.1.

 

zfwjs, "That is the only issue I have had with Win10, not that it's a minor issue, but everything else is working for me."

That is exactly the same as I hear from many with Win10, works great except for just this....you may notice more as time goes on.

Same for me on Win 8 and Win 8.1 during their debugging time to stable operation - today.

If you are willing to put up with the debugging, Win 10 will be stable like Win 8.1 in about the same amount of time - Win 8.1 release to now.

This time I choose to wait and let the OS become stable, or offer something I need, if not for the EULA crazy I would like be running it on more than one system already

 

mason2smart, you could ask MSI support?

Noone has responded to you here, so I am assuming noone here knows.

 

Win10 sounds so disturbingly unstable. For that reason, and that I am willing to wait for the GTX980 SLI, Skylake and new chipset, I'm not purchasing the Titan until maybe early next year. Patience is a virtue some say .....

 

The freezing might be related to the nvidia drivers. Try older drivers. I haven't tried the latest ones yet, but 355.80 was unstable for me somedays. 353.62 has been the most stable driver so far.

 

gt80 6820hk, anyday now.. still patiently waiting.

 

Its already available for preorder from Gentech with the 980m and skylake processor. Its also on powernotebooks.com as well

 

got the battlefront download so im ready for its launch tomorrow!

 

damn what about 980 sli? lol

 

so i just went there and checked it out.. doesnt look like theres dual PSU option. guess this is the end lol, kinda expected it though. with skylake CPU use more power underload than haswell especially high clock (given 6820HK is meant to overclock anyway), i seriously doubt 1 PSU will be enough, maybe just barely without OC any GPUs.

with dual 980 SLI, bah.

 

Keep in mind if you can overclock with the haswell cpu you can overclock with skylake CPU as it uses less power. Overclocking won't be any issue on a single brick but a max overclock on cpu and gpu both might be pushing the limits which is the same result with today's models.

I am assuming the 6820hk it will be processor current locked in the bios to regulate the max overclock and power consumption. They do this in the current gt80, the good news is that the bios menus are reachable.

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So even with dual 980's it will not need a second psu unless overclocked?
They will probably upgrade the battery as well...

Would bridging psu's still help with the 980 sli?

 

Mason my above response is for the skylake model set to be released the end of OCT this year which includes 980m. When dealing with the desktop 980 model it will all depend on the TDP rating of the actual cards that will be used. Many have stated that they will use 120 watt cards but this is only plausible currently not factual. If they were to use 120 watt TDP cards it would be very similar power levels to the current 980m and would put things at the limit but not over in its stock configured setting. At rated values you would be (120 (gpu) +120 (gpu) +45 (cpu at min tdp) + 40 (system)) or no different than you are today. How much performance will you gain, it will all depend upon the cards being used but the GT72 looked promising.

Would it help, I would think it could but only testing will tell us.

Correct me if I am wrong here but I believe the current 980m is a TDP of 120watts give or take also so I am not seeing much power requirement change if MSI decides to use 120watt version in the GT80 SLI 980 version?

 

NVIDIA WHQL GeForcre driver 358.50 is worth a shot if you're having issues with other versions

Win10 x64:
http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/358.50/358.50-notebook-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe

 

anybody make decals for the GT80? custom skins?

 

6820HK consumes considerable less watts under overclocked load than 4980HQ and 5950HQ. Hell, it's 4Ghz TDP is very similar to my haswells 3.6ghz TDP so on the CPU side, it won't matter. For dual 980m a single brick should be fine with mild OC on both GPUs and CPUs. Something like a free performance boost in the GPU with +100/+100 and CPU at 4ghz should be under the 330 limit even if a bit close. If I remember correctly, my stock system no OC consumed around 280W under load with witcher 3.

330W is able to power the 4980HQ consuming up to 80w with dual 980m with ease, so 6820HK should be less punishing even if overclocked.

For dual 980 I am sure they will work something else, although with a TDP of 120W, in theory it should also be within the 330W but OC headroom for GPU might not be high. Also I am sure it will be power limited by vbios until Prema or svet release something.

Maybe that is why they are working with 980SLI and not annoucing anything yet. Perhaps increased cooling or power considerations.

Battery won't be upgraded at all, no need to. Using dual PSUs on your own would help you have much more power headroom to overclock, but that's it. On stock, a single PSU should have rather enough power, provided the 980 stays within its 120w TDP. Even with OC to the CPU.

 

i donno where you get those from, if it's from notebookcheck i take it as grain of salt lol, they are the worst reviewer to go by when it comes to overclock. besides, using that comparison is pretty inaccurate, both 4980 and 5950hq will throttle, they dont stay at 4GHz at all for long period of time. I am simply comparing desktop chip 4790k and 6700k underload, at 4.2-4.4ghz skylake draws noticeable more power, which is the minimum frequency i have planned to run at anyway.. whats the point getting 4ghz when 5950HQ can almost do the same gotta go higher paying the premium!.

lets put it this way, ivybridge uses less power than all of these CPU, at 4ghz im at 50w, at 4.2ghz im at 75w.. assuming broadwell which uses the least amount of power out of haswell/broadwell/skylake, at similar clock it'll likely go for more < haswell < then skylake etc.

also, i thought 980 was somewhere around 150-165w card, if its 120w then it ain't so bad.

now all of these are just speculation from what i have seen on desktop end and compared to what i previously have had and experienced, by no means i will be accurate, i can only estimate.

 

Even if 4980hq and 5950 throttle they still consume a lot more power during their power window.

I did get the power number for mobile skylake from notebook check tests but you have to remember desktop chips are not comparable to mobile chips in watts.

A 4770k on stock can also consume up to 80ws or more even if not overclock depending on the load.

My 4720hq undervolted consumes 53w under full cpu load. Broadwell consumes less. According to notebook check 6700hq consumes around 35w for 3.5ghz compared to my 46-48. Their 6820hk showed around 53w.

I am of course taking it with a grain of salt but its a given it will consume less than haswell. If 4ghz haswell consumes 80w or less if undervolted, skylake consumes less at the same performance.

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I thought nvidia was giving it a variable tpd where X<160w

 

These drivers get worse with every new revision on this computer. This time on 358.50 I got blackscreen almost every two mintues (during update to Starcraft, Chrome browsing, and/or RDP sessions). I experienced this same behavior both out of sleep and after a fresh reboot. Funny thing is, I have 3 other computers that don't react this way to nvidia's latest drivers. (Razer blade 2015 with GTX970M, Alienware m18x with dual 680gtx, Aorus x7 dual gtx970m all stable on 383.50 upgraded through GF Experience). Well my GT80 is back on 353.49. What did MSI do with this thing that is different from everyone else. I am starting to get disgusted with this machine almost to the point to where I might try to sell it and just get the Alienware 18.

 

hoofhearted, are you running 8.1 or Windows 10? Which model GT80 do you have?

I am running 355.98, and no problems in games, apps, video, etc. On Windows 8.1 GT80 SLI-263.

Blackscreen while running like you are describing is usually due to the monitor going in and out of sync. Are you running a custom resolution with a faster than 60hz refresh? Are your games / apps fighting to switch from one refresh rate to the other? Try going back to default refresh and doing the same in games.

I downloaded 358.50, and will let you know how it goes

 

I have a different laptop an my issues are even worse than yours...

 

I started getting freezes almost immediately after installing the latest NVIDIA 358.50. I just rolled back to 353.54 which is the latest Win10 NVIDIA driver on the MSI website.

Nothing really to report on 353.54 because I just rolled back about 10 minutes ago.

 

And mine is a Razer Blade Pro 2013, so its odd ur razer isn't affected

 

It's hit or miss, especially right now. Did you do a clean install of the driver? Or was it a straightforward update, no clean install?

 

Actually, when i did a clean install on my laptop it didn't work when i upgraded it was better. I used DDU to remove it then installed a lower driver then upgraded it without clean install and it worked slightly better that way.

 

It was an upgrade, not a clean install.

I attempted to roll back to 353.54 with a full uninstall, reboot, and then uninstall of the driver windows installed. I then did a clean install of 353.54 which was successful, but a couple short black screens told me windows updated my drivers auto automatically. So I'm currently at 353.62, without the time to figure out where Win10 is hiding it, but I'm stable so far.

I did try the whole uninstall and delete driver from the device manager, and it appeared to work, but Win10 found the 353.62 driver hiding somewhere.

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YMMV of course. DDU usually isn't necessary, but hey, as long as you got things working for you.

The NVidia installer has an option for a "clean installation" as well. It's located in the custom/advanced installation options.

Let us know how the 353.62 plays out.

 

USE DDU "display driver uninstaller"

 

353.62 should work no problems. I use that right now as every other driver has been unstable lately. The issues with the latest drivers and numeros and very diverse across very different systems, both laptops and desktops.

 

I am stable so far with windows 8.1 and the new Starwars Battlefront Nvidia Drivers.

 

Pulled out a second SSD and did a fresh install of 8.1 and got the latest nvidia driver. Just to see if my 10 install was bugging with the nvidia driver.. Both are making my single 980m run alottttt hotter as the previous drivers did not. I wanted battlefront and all.. But this driver isn't for me on either OS. Lol
Warframe ,Bf4, kf2,SWBF all of them.. Temps around 80-82c on my card.
This is under a fresh repaste where the later driver gave temps under windows 10 on BF4 was around 68c

 

I get stuck in battlefront where it says to hit the enter key to get to menu

Any of you get this issue?

 

this is the trend im seeing, skylake at lower clock, consume less than haswell, at higher clock over 4ghz consume more. 4770k default to high clock already, both stock and turbo, and mobile/desktop, both are using same architecture so theres not much difference except the silicon.

i wanna see a full on review of the new gt80 with skylake CPU before drawing conclusion. also this delay/hold up from MSI, pretty sure its got to do with power issue with dual 980 and 6820HK overclock, and of course cooling problem exist too, with current MSI CPU heatsink it just won't cut it especially shares GPU fan when dual 980 would mean more heat on GPU fans.

 

It may only need fan size/rpm upgrade